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bigdaddyvtec 11-04-2007 03:57 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
WTF happened tpo the oil pump gear... did you break it????????

widebody93 11-04-2007 04:39 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
No just going to put a new assembly in as a preventive maint along with the Circuit Worx gear.
Hey I figured out how to rebuild the Trans if they are not to screwed up and rebuildable

bigdaddyvtec 11-05-2007 04:24 AM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
ummmm thats a little more than "preventative maintenence"... BUT IM NOT GOONA START HERE, BUT IF YOU START A NEW THREAD, IM SURE YOUD GET "FEEDBACK". SOUNDS LIKE ITS APART....

HMTdmc 11-05-2007 09:03 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 

Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
ummmm thats a little more than "preventative maintenence"... BUT IM NOT GOONA START HERE, BUT IF YOU START A NEW THREAD, IM SURE YOUD GET "FEEDBACK". SOUNDS LIKE ITS APART....

Good point BDV.
Dave good luck Dave I hope all this goes well for you.

Jeremy just to let you know Dave would own Billy Robert.

widebody93 11-05-2007 09:30 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
I've given Dave his props and I respect him for what some of the things he's done, actually alot of them. I never did ever say that Dave was not a great tuner. Not once along with Leed,"just for you BDVT :-* " But Billy and Blake are the two best in my area. And I have not had any issues or heard any complaints.

I Pm'd BDVT and told him why and what I'm doing for what reasons. So no shame here

ifly87 11-08-2007 02:30 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
Is this their phone number??

Hondata, Inc. 386 Beech Ave, Unit B2 Torrance, CA 90501 Ph 310 782-8278 or Ph 310 936-1865.

blundar 11-08-2007 03:13 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
Update 11/8/07:

I spoke with Derek Stevens of Hondata yesterday. I was not able to get a clear statement of what Hondata were looking for from me. I was not able to make any significant headway towards resolving this matter without litigation. There was no willingness to discuss how to resolve the matter at hand - I was simply directed to Hondata's council, Mr. Yesnick. When I called today, I was told that no one was interested in talking to me.

Mr. Yesnick is unavailable to discuss this matter until tomorrow. I feel compelled to do everything I can to resolve this matter through discussion. This seems to be the last stop before litigation is unavoidable. Wish me luck.

Minor Threat 11-08-2007 03:19 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 

Originally Posted by blundar
Update 11/8/07:

I spoke with Derek Stevens of Hondata yesterday. I was not able to get a clear statement of what Hondata were looking for from me. I was not able to make any significant headway towards resolving this matter without litigation. There was no willingness to discuss how to resolve the matter at hand - I was simply directed to Hondata's council, Mr. Yesnick. When I called today, I was told that no one was interested in talking to me.

Mr. Yesnick is unavailable to discuss this matter until tomorrow. I feel compelled to do everything I can to resolve this matter through discussion. This seems to be the last stop before litigation is unavoidable. Wish me luck.

Good luck Dave, I hope you can get through this with the least amount of bullshit possible.

bigdaddyvtec 11-08-2007 03:37 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 

Originally Posted by blundar
Update 11/8/07:

I spoke with Derek Stevens of Hondata yesterday. I was not able to get a clear statement of what Hondata were looking for from me. I was not able to make any significant headway towards resolving this matter without litigation. There was no willingness to discuss how to resolve the matter at hand - I was simply directed to Hondata's council, Mr. Yesnick. When I called today, I was told that no one was interested in talking to me.

Mr. Yesnick is unavailable to discuss this matter until tomorrow. I feel compelled to do everything I can to resolve this matter through discussion. This seems to be the last stop before litigation is unavoidable. Wish me luck.

----, unfortunatly (for EVERYONE) This just doesnt seem like its gonna be a clean battle at all... Hondata may be saying one thing (like they hope that they can reconcile without littigation), but their actions (I understnd the place DOUG HAS PUT NOT ONLY HIMSELF, but EVERYONE involved in)... Speak nothing but entirely to the contrary... I wish you the best Dave... Ill send some more cash next week.


0101001010010111010100101FUCK HONDATA!!!1!!1!10111100010101010

Inquisition 11-08-2007 07:01 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
I still don't understand where they believe they have grounds for this suit. Since when is a forum's TOS not legal? Since when is not removing something within 48 hours not fast enough? Since when is Hondata someone who can make any sort of legal request and be taken seriously? I just don't understand it.

JonDouglas 11-08-2007 07:09 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
Wow, they really are showing their true colors on their own forum.

This is merely a vendetta against Dave. Doug seriously wants control of PGMFI or to have it shut down, and since Dave no longer owns the site, he is going after the closest legally attackable target.

------- pathetic.

It is sad, because it is only a matter of time before people figure out the K series ECU, and I think that this is only fueling the fire to make it happen sooner.

Guy-Fast 11-08-2007 07:32 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
good luck Dave hope everything works out for the best. Keep us posted and any needs you have from the HMT community. We are here to help has you were there to help our community.

widebody93 11-08-2007 09:39 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
After the 14yr old comment they made and the Bull ---- reply they actually meant about it just made me switch sides. Money will be sent tomorrow. ---- their personalities but I still like their S300 system.

JonDouglas 11-08-2007 10:40 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 

Originally Posted by widebody93
After the 14yr old comment they made and the Bull ---- reply they actually meant about it just made me switch sides. Money will be sent tomorrow. ---- their personalities but I still like their S300 system.

Nobody has said that their products are shitty, just their attitudes.

Bone1 11-09-2007 02:07 AM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 

Originally Posted by snm95ls
Wow, they really are showing their true colors on their own forum.

This is merely a vendetta against Dave. Doug seriously wants control of PGMFI or to have it shut down, and since Dave no longer owns the site, he is going after the closest legally attackable target.

------- pathetic.

It is sad, because it is only a matter of time before people figure out the K series ECU, and I think that this is only fueling the fire to make it happen sooner.

If anything, I predict this will bring all the puetr hacks to break K-Pro.......

Inquisition 11-15-2007 05:06 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 

Originally Posted by blundar
I need about $1800 more to cover the expense of my attorney's retainer. I would not have been able to afford to hire him without the support of the community, and for this I am deeply grateful. I anticipate that the legal fees to fight this matter will probably end up being approximately $10,000 more than I have already spent.

THANKYOU ONE AND ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT!!!

1800 people need to donate $1.00
360 people need to donate $5.00
180 people need to donate $10.00
90 people need to donate $20.00

I'm throwing Dave another $10 right now. What are you going to do to help?

bigdaddyvtec 11-15-2007 06:21 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
Paypal sent... again.... O0

Inquisition 11-15-2007 07:14 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 

Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
Paypal sent... again.... O0

All ---- aside, you seem to be donating more than your fair share. I'm sure Dave appreciates it.

bikewrench 11-23-2007 11:46 AM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
I just read the thread on Hondata's site. Its funny, seems nobody is supporting them even on their own site. How can they think they are not going to loose some customers over this?

I've been working on my turbo project for almost 2 yrs now :S I'm almost ready to install every thing and start tuning. I couldn't have done this with out this site and pgmfi. I will definately not be buying any hondata products! I think I'll use crome and buy all my hardware from Xenocron.

My wife just passed the cali bar last week. She does civil work, but not ip or internet law. If we can be of any assistance just let me know.

I just want to say thank you to all of the members of this site and pgmfi. I've learned so much from just reading your experiences and comments.

brettsb16a2 11-28-2007 11:22 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
Is hondata selling much anymore? I hardly know anyone who runs hondata. Maybe cause they suck. Well, unfortunatly it will only hurt them cause people like me will make sure that those who i race with and those who i teach go with other managments then hodata. Can they sue over my opinions cause i guess i am guilty. Donation made!

Honda should sue them cause i see "honda" in hondata. FART NUGGETS!!!!

brettsb16a2 12-01-2007 09:46 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
i informed the san antonio import sceen, news here is just a little slower so hopefully some will donate

www.sanantonioimports.com


not the best website, i think i am probably the smarter dudes on there and i aint that smart but its close to home, steers and beers really take an effect on the people around here. Talk about sucky drivers

#Rotor 12-28-2007 12:22 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
This is bad... >:(

Needless to say, Hondata is a BIG NO NO from now on...

sunboost 12-28-2007 05:06 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
any news on whats going on with this?

widebody93 12-28-2007 07:23 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
They have not posted anymore on my question to them in the non-hondata forum on their site?

sunboost 12-28-2007 07:43 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
that was locked by them

SQ is the SQUAD 01-19-2008 09:46 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
any updates?

eg4 01-28-2008 06:08 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
congrats dave

http://forum.pgmfi.org/viewtopic.php...sd=a&start=165

Bone1 01-29-2008 02:35 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
chatted with Dave last night, no mention of the lawsuit, did ask him a simple Hondata S200 question, he wasn't sure of the answer.

He did seem in alot better spirits than in the past, plus his daughters first birthday is coming up!

Oscar 03-19-2008 12:51 PM

Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
 
http://forum.pgmfi.org/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=15818


Originally Posted by blundar
Hondata and Blundell have reached an amicable settlement in their dispute over certain
postings made on PGMFI which Hondata in good faith believed infringed its intellectual
property rights. Site Parties have agreed to give Hondata limited moderator privileges to
identify potentially infringing material and has set up a procedure to work cooperatively
in promptly resolving future claims.

Blundell apologizes for failing to respond to Hondata’s requests.
The parties regret the acrimony and ill-will engendered by this dispute and look forward
to working together in the future.

This is going to suck. :3 :3 No more bashing Hondata, and now I'm SURE they'll steal coding/ideas from pgmfi creators :'(


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