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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by ifly87
But whats the fun in that?
We have to be pissed off at somthing and Honda-Tech is getting boring. |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by xenocron
Guys relax...he is a tard but entitled to his own opinions.
Any commentary by this forum's membership concerning widebody93's need to drink Draino should not be confused with the matter at hand. They are completely seperate subjects. |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Haha JD owns people when he gets mad.. Widebody, go die in a fire cocktits..
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
JD you melt me with you're words
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Joseph... You sent me something to my phone, and it didnt work... Try email..... or actually calling me you bloated bag of protoplasma.
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
I am glad you have gotten a lot of support...
Questions that I as a business law major have for you: Does Hondata have any copyrights on the code? The Kpro downloader can only be used in conjunction with Hondata proprietary hardware (kpro) correct therefore not costing them any loss? Do you have a waiver on your site similar to Hondata's? As I posted on pgmfi, your lawyer can file for summary judgment on so many grounds its insane. this case really has little bearing, since in reality, hondata is infringing on honda's intellectual property and making a BIG profit doing it.. And what the ---- is Hondata thinking!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!? Alienating so many of its potential customers.. |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Sorry JD, but I agree with Widebodys post on Hondata.
Dave, unlike some of us doesn't live his life on the intrawebs, esp. when exams are being taken to finish his degree. Doug needs to understand this. If Dave tried to contact a mod. to kill the post (did or didn't he?) what difference does it make? The post was removed. I talked with a fellow puter geek/car nerd that is a friend of mine and Joe'e, who helped get Dave to learn to wrench. His thoughts were that Doug has commited corprate suicide. |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
more reasons for summary judgement:
Hondata can not prove that DOES 1-50 are in California, thereby California courts have no jurisdiction since no torts or damages can be proven to have been done in California |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by Mista Bone
Sorry JD, but I agree with Widebodys post on Hondata.
Whether or not you help us encourage him to commit suicide - or failling that, douse his computer with gasoline and light it on fire - is a matter for discussion. Are you with us, Chuck? |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by flacopower
more reasons for summary judgement:
Hondata can not prove that DOES 1-50 are in California, thereby California courts have no jurisdiction since no torts or damages can be proven to have been done in California |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
so how much business do you think they are gonna lose because of this? everybody i have talked to about the situation have said that they will never use anything they make again. just wondering if the bad publicity they are giveing themself is worth the monetary gain they might get.
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Even though I havent learned to tune yet, PGMFI was always there when I needed help. My tuner uses crome and uberdata as well. Send me your paypal.
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Agreeing with him on a subject is not now, nor ever will be, a matter for discussion.
Whether or not you help us encourage him to commit suicide - or failling that, douse his computer with gasoline and light it on fire - is a matter for discussion. Are you with us, Chuck? |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by snm95ls
But does that hold water in an internet based claim?
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by imburne
Send me your paypal.
pretty sure he already posted it up |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by Mista Bone
2 gallons of 113 octane leaded enough?
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
You, sir, are a scholar and a gentleman.
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
I was going to say that Id just piss on him.. Nothing more nothing less...
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
OK, enough.
Doug has a right to be pissed, his work was comprimised. It his cash cow. I'm sure anyone else here would feel the same way if your idea was cracked open. The ISSUE is how Doug is handling it. The INSANE demands that was sent in the C&D letter pretty much set up the fight. REMEMBER, I was sued by Phantom Grip for my degrogatory comments. I had to goto Lexington KY to give a depostion in front of their lawyers. After all the questioning, the lawyers assuring me they will press ahead with the lawsuit........ ......I gave them some info from Tom Fowler @ OPM Motorsports. The OPM limited-slip is a patented clutch-type custom made limited-slip differential. We start with a stock diff and remove all the gears and shafts to inspect and clean them. Then machining of the case is performed and the clutch packs are fit. The diff is then re-assembled and a spring block is pressed between the spider gears to put pressure on the side gears. It works extremely well and has a long operation life. We have units in use in Solo, Improved Touring, Rallye, Ice Racing and high-performance street applications. In comparison, the Quaiffe LSD is a gear-type unit. It is heavier than the OPM unit (like a heavier flywheel) and also has to re-engage if one of the wheels loses contact with the street or racing surface. The Phantom Grip LSD is an incomplete copy of an OPM unit. It has the spring block, but no clutches so it wears out the diff housing. Dollar for dollar, the OPM unit is your best bet. If they choose to sue me for bad mouthing, the would have been admiting to stealing a patent without permission. Then I informed the lawyers that I was ran off the road by their race team on I-71 south of Mid Ohio, crew coming back from Niagra CRX Meet, I had about 20 witnesses. Funny thing, last tranny I worked on for Dave, when I pulled the OEM diff knowing the tranny had been apart before, it had a POS Phantom Slip. |
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NOT SCURRRRRED of all the pissing and octane remarks, kind of childish since this is about another issue....Anyone check out the hondata site lately. It's a year long dispute and somethings were not agreed apon and thats "from my understanding" why Hondata is pushing it though. Business was sold right after the lawsuit began, action was taking against individual that put it up, and they claim the downloader was up for more than a day after I guess a reply was recieved from Blundar about the issue, then the downloader was a hot item cause people ------ the word about it about to be deleted. Bone you have a point also with the differential part. I've seen two fail of P.G's in the twisties.
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by widebody93
NOT SCURRRRRED of all the pissing and octane remarks, kind of childish since this is about another issue....Anyone check out the hondata site lately. It's a year long dispute and somethings were not agreed apon and thats "from my understanding" why Hondata is pushing it though. Business was sold right after the lawsuit began, action was taking against individual that put it up, and they claim the downloader was up for more than a day after I guess a reply was recieved from Blundar about the issue, then the downloader was a hot item cause people ------ the word about it about to be deleted. Bone you have a point also with the differential part. I've seen two fail of P.G's in the twisties.
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by Mista Bone
Then I informed the lawyers that I was ran off the road by their race team on I-71 south of Mid Ohio, crew coming back from Niagra CRX Meet, I had about 20 witnesses.
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no, car hauler.
Homemade flatbed pulling a 18-20 foot open deck trailer, two race cars total plus spare tires. |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by widebody93
But I'm a user of Hondata and I like their work
Because I was under the impression that you had someone else tune your car...... |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Tune his currently blown up car.
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JD who ever said it was blown up, are you again on those dream sickles, It blew the rear coolant line "O.E."thats it nothing more nothing less as I said before.
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by widebody93
JD who ever said it was blown up, are you again on those dream sickles, It blew the rear coolant line "O.E."thats it nothing more nothing less as I said before.
Ive never had anything against hondata I figured it was just one more tuning option and the same as the others but after this I won't tune a hondata setup for anyone for any reason anymore. Yeah this lawsuit against Dave is really retarded. Even if the whatever was posted hurt hondata in some way I don't see how Dave would be liable. I'm sending cash ,and like others have said If you tune cars and make money or even if you tuned your own car with uberdata crome free and freelog If it wasn't for Dave Blundel you would have never even learned how anyway. |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Donation sent... Get on it noggers. ;)
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Dave Hondata can't do ---- but make you spend some $$$. But in the transition they will make you rich and famous like the guy from NAPSTER... Get ready for great fortune...
My dad is a lawyer he read everything and said its all bull ----. |
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Blundy I sent joo monees ;D :-*
Hondata is full of fail and aids, like that motivational poster. |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Can any0one that lives close enough to MASE in FL go kick him in the dick for me???
THX
Originally Posted by Mase
ehh, what a mess. I dont have time nor the desire to get stuck in this craze. I've gotten like 20 emails asking my opinion on this matter....
In brief. I've always been a supporter of Hondata, and still am. Not that im not a supporter of DYI. But in my experience, which not to be too arrogant, I probably have more experience tuning a vast array of engine management systems than anyone here. Hondata is infact a for-profit business. They are the front runners for the honda scene. They put a lot more into their product than someone writing freeware on their couch. While there are users who want the free stuff, there are more people who want Hondata platforms. Frankly, this is just another HT bandwagon, everyone jump on the band wagon for poor blundar. While i dont have anything against him (he knows that), I think this pity party is absurd. People love drama, people love the little guy. Dave you've done a lot for people, not saying you havent. My personal opinion regarding dave to be wrong or right doesnt really matter, so i'll refrain from saying anything of sort on the public forum. I do hope you can resolve it peacefully as possible. At the end of the day, most of the people who are all bitching about hondata, weren't running their product anyways. And the few who do try to boycott are only missing out. Hondata isnt missing the big picture. They did it for a reason. Their sales wont suffer major, if at all. The people who think so, dont know their demographics of clientele. Mase P.S. hi jdavis hope everything is well. up to your usual antics i see :beer: Just because they are (in your opinion) the "front runners" of the industry doesnt give them the right to act like completely unrealistic jackholes... have you read the information thats available??? cmon man.. seriously... In MY edited opinion...If you seriously think what they are doing (or attempting to do) is cool... You are seriously disillusioned, or so biased that you ve lost sight of the bottom line... Theres a BIG gap between pitty and support, being the educated fellow that you are I'd expect (or at least hope) to hear a bit of a more soulfull answer out of you.... I venture to say that not only will they miss out on potential future users (they did here).... but they will lose this ridiculous case as well. They are hurting the community. Period. Their code wasnt stolen or implimented into anything ( a misundestanding many people have had)... Some idiot posted it on a site, it wasnt taken off as fast as they like and now they want controll of that board... CAN YOU NOT SEE A CONFILCT OF INTREREST HERE???? Give me a break.... If they win its a sad statement of the judicial process.... Seriously; but then we all already know how that process works out.... Anyways....I will say this: Hey can you tune my EvO???? Ive got a burning urethrea... LOL. FWIW a potential HONDATA customer was lost here.... Im sure im not the only one..... Theres your demographic. :thumbdown: This whole situation |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
funny how he made it about himself! ???
Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
Can any0one that lives close enough to MASE in FL go kick him in the dick for me???
THX Yawn... bandwagon huh... Im not even going to state "my unadulterated opinion" 'cause it will get me banned as I dont have a flock of jockriders... Nor have I been good at not being an ------- in the past.... Just because they are (in your opinion) the "front runners" of the industry doesnt give them the right to act like completely unrealistic jackholes... have you read the information thats available??? cmon man.. seriously... In MY edited opinion...If you seriously think what they are doing (or attempting to do) is cool... You are seriously disillusioned, or so biased that you ve lost sight of the bottom line... Theres a BIG gap between pitty and support, being the educated fellow that you are I'd expect (or at least hope) to hear a bit of a more soulfull answer out of you.... I venture to say that not only will they miss out on potential future users (they did here).... but they will lose this ridiculous case as well. They are hurting the community. Period. Their code wasnt stolen or implimented into anything ( a misundestanding many people have had)... Some idiot posted it on a site, it wasnt taken off as fast as they like and now they want controll of that board... CAN YOU NOT SEE A CONFILCT OF INTREREST HERE???? Give me a break.... If they win its a sad statement of the judicial process.... Seriously; but then we all already know how that process works out.... Anyways....I will say this: Hey can you tune my EvO???? Ive got a burning urethrea... LOL. FWIW a potential HONDATA customer was lost here.... Im sure im not the only one..... Theres your demographic. :thumbdown: This whole situation |
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Mase is a big cockface, we all know that. He should've just kept quiet about this.
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Dontation made, good luck with the battle. :y
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Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec
FWIW a potential HONDATA customer was lost here.... Im sure im not the only one..... Theres your demographic. :thumbdown: This whole situation HUH potential customer.......HOLD THE ---- ON............JAGO are you modding or did you hack into BDVT account. ::) |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
Originally Posted by Dmc1
Well why was their so much pressure in the line that it busted Jeremy?
Hey Dennis long time no see. I have no idea why it popped, it's the same one that came with the car from 1993, ---- happens ya know..Buy any how I put a new hose on it filled it with fluids and have been driving it up to last week and it's ok, pulled motor to install a new 5th gear sleeve and reverse fork, install the FX500 Clutch, Kaiiiizen Speed balanceshaft elimination, Circuit Worx oil pump gear and finally a F22 trans so I can send off my M2B4 to Gearspeed Inc for a Full Build later on after I get the $2300 saved up :o Yeah thats alot but I dont plan of ever having anymore issues after all this. ITS ALL NOW NEW and better than O.E. |
Re: So Hondata decided to sue me over PGMFI.
To be fair? If it was one of the lines in the rear of the engine, I've seen them damaged when installing the engine, if they bang up against the rear mount + stuff. ---- happens.
But, since this is widebody:
Originally Posted by wafflesincars
widebody93 is full of fail and aids, like that motivational poster.
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JD your prolly right and your quote why you got to be so mean :X. HEAR NO EVIL SEE NO EVIL :y
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Yeah Jeremy I aint been back down with my work I never have any time anymore. Ive got a 91 240sx I working on boosting should have it running sometime in early spring.
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Well as soon as I get my Hybrid LSD trans installed onto the motor, get the oil pump gear, get the Kaizen balanceshaft elimination kit,new hoses, and get it back in I"m game to come over to hang with ya for a day. Spring time will probably be best for me too, need time on a dyno though.
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