Pinging wit 16 degre timing and 11.5 A/F. Why???
10-17-2006, 07:24 PM
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Re: Pinging wit 16 degre timing and 11.5 A/F. Why???
Originally Posted by bozo
I droped my timing way dovn to 15degres and still pings. I checked the plugs and they were gaped to 1.2mm so i get them to 0.9mm. I checked the A/F with LM1 from the end of the tailpipe and it never pased 12. 2 days ago I disasembeld the distributor to get the - from the ignition coil for rpm loging via LMA3. I know i got ewery thing back because car pulls hard way up to 5000rpm and 0.5 bar. Past 5000rpm preshure rises to 0.6, 0.7 and past 6000rpm it is in the 0.9bar range. The pinging starts past 5000rpm when preshure starts to rise. A/F is rich in all conditions.
10-17-2006, 11:46 PM
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Re: Pinging wit 16 degre timing and 11.5 A/F. Why???
Make big moves in your timing map if you can hear the pinging in the car. Whip up a map with like 5 more degree's taken out. Dont be afraid to put the timing in the map where it needs to be for your setup; vs what some internet Joe says he runs on his similar setup.
What editor are you using? Are you syncing the dizzy to the ignition maps? Is there an adequate block of the same timing # entered in the idle portion to ensure you're syncing the dizzy to what you entered.
What editor are you using? Are you syncing the dizzy to the ignition maps? Is there an adequate block of the same timing # entered in the idle portion to ensure you're syncing the dizzy to what you entered.
10-18-2006, 11:03 AM
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Re: Pinging wit 16 degre timing and 11.5 A/F. Why???
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Make big moves in your timing map if you can hear the pinging in the car. Whip up a map with like 5 more degree's taken out. Dont be afraid to put the timing in the map where it needs to be for your setup; vs what some internet Joe says he runs on his similar setup.
What editor are you using? Are you syncing the dizzy to the ignition maps? Is there an adequate block of the same timing # entered in the idle portion to ensure you're syncing the dizzy to what you entered.
Editor is Crome. Idile is at 16.5. I have stock d16z6 ignition only the bosted part is retarded 0.75 but as I say it pings past 5000 and past 0.5bars.I also have ground wires.
Can you thranslate BOLDED sentence? I do not understand what should I do with timing.
Is it posible that LM1 is reading false readings at the end of the tailpipe? But i do not belive it could read richer that it is.
Make big moves in your timing map if you can hear the pinging in the car. Whip up a map with like 5 more degree's taken out. Dont be afraid to put the timing in the map where it needs to be for your setup; vs what some internet Joe says he runs on his similar setup.
What editor are you using? Are you syncing the dizzy to the ignition maps? Is there an adequate block of the same timing # entered in the idle portion to ensure you're syncing the dizzy to what you entered.
Editor is Crome. Idile is at 16.5. I have stock d16z6 ignition only the bosted part is retarded 0.75 but as I say it pings past 5000 and past 0.5bars.I also have ground wires.
Can you thranslate BOLDED sentence? I do not understand what should I do with timing.
Is it posible that LM1 is reading false readings at the end of the tailpipe? But i do not belive it could read richer that it is.
10-18-2006, 03:39 PM
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Re: Pinging wit 16 degre timing and 11.5 A/F. Why???
add more fuel. try to get your a/f's in the 10's w/ timing at 16degrees. My lm1 will show a/f's in the 12's but itll ping. so i run 11 flat and it works out good. Better run a bit rich with more timing than leaner with less timing. itllmake youre egt's go up and youll start melting ----.
10-18-2006, 04:21 PM
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Re: Pinging wit 16 degre timing and 11.5 A/F. Why???
Originally Posted by RENR
add more fuel. try to get your a/f's in the 10's w/ timing at 16degrees. My lm1 will show a/f's in the 12's but itll ping. so i run 11 flat and it works out good. Better run a bit rich with more timing than leaner with less timing. itllmake youre egt's go up and youll start melting ----.
10-20-2006, 01:43 PM
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Re: Pinging wit 16 degre timing and 11.5 A/F. Why???
Originally Posted by Inquisition
This is an absolutely retarded way to go about testing to see if its detonation. Richening fuel mixture is just an idiotic way to slow down the flame. Leave the AFR alone, remove timing. It does the same freaking thing except is far more efficient because you are wasting fuel which costs money. I'm betting this problem is not detonation but if it is, just remove timing. If you remove a bunch of timing and it still exists(a bunch is 10-15*) its not detonation(well probably not) and its probably a misfire issue which you are misdiagnosing.
10-24-2006, 04:41 PM
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Re: Pinging wit 16 degre timing and 11.5 A/F. Why???
Originally Posted by Tauws
Turboíng on euro 95? Are u stupid?
Get some 98 or 100.
Get some 98 or 100.
no detonation..
