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Pinging wit 16 degre timing and 11.5 A/F. Why???

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Old 10-29-2006, 06:32 AM
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WFT? i knon a guy runing with his subaru trbo making more than 300 whp on 95 octanes no detonation..
I decided to put Octane Booster to my fuel tank. It sais on the botle that it raises octane rating by 4 and that it is for 50L of fuel. I put it in a half full tank and drive around for 5 min. to mix it. The when the engine was warmed up I made a run all the way thru 4-th and it did not pinged. The fuel was the problem.
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Old 10-29-2006, 04:09 PM
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weird.. assume fuel from you live is low quality
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Old 10-29-2006, 05:01 PM
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Octane is octane is octane. Its like saying a foot in Europe is different than in America. What will change is how the fuel burns. I'd imagine your fuel burns very quickly which is why it does not like a lot of advance. Rather than buying octane booster every week and spending money on ----, remove more timing.
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Old 10-30-2006, 07:41 AM
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Octane is octane is octane. Its like saying a foot in Europe is different than in America. What will change is how the fuel burns. I'd imagine your fuel burns very quickly which is why it does not like a lot of advance. Rather than buying octane booster every week and spending money on ----, remove more timing.
I will not buy booster every week I will just use super100 fuel that is stronger. The car does not ping on 100 gas so I do not need to retard already overretarded ign. map.
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Old 10-30-2006, 10:32 AM
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bozo, you haven't told us anything we need to know to give you specific instructions. Like, for example, what ------- engine it is you have? How about you make a nice list top to bottom for us to sift through?

Toss that OMG THEY TOLD ME ON HT THAT 16-18 DEGREES IS A LOT OF TIMING TAKEN OUT!!!11 concept out the window. Engines like the timing they like, and 16-18 degrees on any D15/D16 with sub-89 RM/2 octane fuel is too much timing, period. I bet you'd ---- nuggets if you had a D16Y head and had to run 7-12 degrees timing, because everyone on HT who has never tuned a car will tell you that's "too much."

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Old 10-30-2006, 10:59 AM
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Octane is octane is octane. Its like saying a foot in Europe is different than in America. What will change is how the fuel burns. I'd imagine your fuel burns very quickly which is why it does not like a lot of advance. Rather than buying octane booster every week and spending money on ----, remove more timing.

but i dont think there is goverment outfits there like there is here. we have the fedral department of weights and mesurments that come to every gas station in the country every year and measure the octain levels and counters on the pumps. and over there they can say pretty much anything they want to to make an extra buck becouse there all communists
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Old 10-30-2006, 12:23 PM
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Octane is octane is octane. Its like saying a foot in Europe is different than in America.
More like saying a yard in America is different from a meter in Europe. 9% inaccuracy in that comparison, bitch.

Educate yourself on the disparity between MON, RON, and RM/2 octane ratings. The numbers do not mean what you think they do.
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yep..

it's not the same

95 octanes to 95 octane (plus a lil water )
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Old 10-31-2006, 04:38 AM
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I also live in europe and i´ve never had an issue with 95 oct in turbo or na cars, my timing is like -2 over stock, maybe you just should be getting gas over here in PT.
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but i dont think there is goverment outfits there like there is here. we have the fedral department of weights and mesurments that come to every gas station in the country every year and measure the octain levels and counters on the pumps. and over there they can say pretty much anything they want to to make an extra buck becouse there all communists
In croatia only oficial laboratory is one from the state company that sels the fuel. So that means they write in the report what ever they want. Because of that 95 octans in USA is not the same like 95 octans in europe or beter say Balkan. As far as competition there are other companies that offer beter gas so I can chose where to buy.
That is why from now on i buy on OMV fuel stops and use eurosuper 100. The car does not ping and my timing is 18-20 depending on the boost level. The car runs best on 0.5bars for now. It is cold here so that has some to do with it. On 0.5 bar i have a problem with start so I will not raise boos any time soon. I must go on the dyno to make some numbers.As far as my setup it goes like this
Use to be d15z6 euro Vtec-e now it is D16z6 from 94 civic.
I have 660ccm injectors, walbro fuel pump, K03 turbine from audi 1.8T 150hp, 80mm downpipe and exhaust.
Saab intercooler, "racing" BOV, fuel preshure regulator.
I run P28 with crome, LM-1 with LMA3(not instaled complety). A/F aroun 11.5-12 depending on load and rpm.
Vtec set at 4500rpm, long gearbox from euro civic first50km/h, second 110km/h, third 150km/h, fourth 200km/h, fifth 235km at 6500rpm. redline at 7500rpm.
I am planing to cure my whiele spin with dual stage boost controller. Did any one used them? Is that any god?
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