Are these ghetto cheap cages, or ghetto and cheap cages?
#11
Re: Are these ghetto cheap cages, or ghetto and cheap cages?
Ah, that's better.
What Art Morrison calls an 8 pt cage with one swing up door bar is what I'm looking for. Shame shipping from WA would suck Stevemode's dick.
What Art Morrison calls an 8 pt cage with one swing up door bar is what I'm looking for. Shame shipping from WA would suck Stevemode's dick.
#13
Re: Are these ghetto cheap cages, or ghetto and cheap cages?
Most of the stuff that needs to be notched already is, the ends that need cut are at an angle (chop saw or sawzall work) so you can mate them with the floor pads. If you need to ghetto notch something, a grinder works wonders.
#16
Re: Are these ghetto cheap cages, or ghetto and cheap cages?
One inch gap around the pillars is nothing. Don't worry about that at all. If you having some free time and like to weld, take some flat stock and weld strips from the hoops to the a and b pillar. This is very strong and will help the hoops from coming out the bottom of the car. This will be a "point" for the rules if you have a max limit on amount of points.
Speaking of cages attachment points. Flat plates on the bottom of the cage is stupid. Your club may have limits to how big the plates are, mearsured in square inches. Form a "rocker box". Use every bit you can.. It should have a base and two vertical plates. This will help things out a ton in strengh.
E85 sucks ***!!! It has a few problems. First of the gas changes session to session and even week to week. So you should tune your car with every tank because you wouldn't know what the hell you got that tank. It doesn't keep long either. Eats fuel cell foam also. Buy race gas and be done with it.
Randy
PS cage kits most of the time suck!!!
Speaking of cages attachment points. Flat plates on the bottom of the cage is stupid. Your club may have limits to how big the plates are, mearsured in square inches. Form a "rocker box". Use every bit you can.. It should have a base and two vertical plates. This will help things out a ton in strengh.
E85 sucks ***!!! It has a few problems. First of the gas changes session to session and even week to week. So you should tune your car with every tank because you wouldn't know what the hell you got that tank. It doesn't keep long either. Eats fuel cell foam also. Buy race gas and be done with it.
Randy
PS cage kits most of the time suck!!!
#17
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Sweet, I appreciate your $0.02, you fabricate a bit more than the average smurf.
Do you have any pics or links to good writeups about installs, and more details about rocker boxes? I don't have a firm visual in my mind.
Do you have any pics or links to good writeups about installs, and more details about rocker boxes? I don't have a firm visual in my mind.
#18
Re: Are these ghetto cheap cages, or ghetto and cheap cages?
I will dig some stuff up. BTW the material that Jegs uses is way to heavy duty. 1.75 inch .134 wall DOM is heavier then ----. A 12 point will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 300-350 pounds. 100 pounds too heavy!!!. I am a huge fan of DOM steel for the average racer and even some pro stuff, check your rules and use that as a guide line. Chrome-moly looks good on paper for weight and strengh but looks very bad after the "big one".
I'll be back
Randy
I'll be back
Randy
#19
Re: Are these ghetto cheap cages, or ghetto and cheap cages?
This is a very good article on how to build a good cage in a CRX. There are some things kinda wrong that I see, but it's easy to look at someone elses work and find problems. But overall a very safe, strong cage, I would crash it :P
Randy
Randy