raized deck highth
OK here it is i am new to a Honda they have interested me for a great while. My history is with V8 cars (428 1969 Mustang yes i am old)and am working on tubed Pinto.
I have got a 93 Honda civic 5 speed and in the middle of building a d15, (becouse it is a under dog engine).I have raized the deck 1", installed sleves, 7/16 head studs,7/16 main cap studs and filled the block to the bottom of the casting plugs with anchor cement. I have custom conecting rods (old NASCAR) 6.250" center to center. I will be install two T3s off T-bird with forged pistons and a 200HP NOS Pro fogger. I think this is a very good bottom end but am having trouble with what kind of fule system to run. I am thinking about a carb becouse i know them. So in closing where do i go from here? Any help would be very useful and i would like to thank you in advancefor it. |
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Did I just read that right? custom Nascar rods in a raised deck d15 with a twin turbo setup and a 200 shot of Nos?.
You fuel system needs are pretty easy, a set of 750cc injectors or bigger and a chipped P28 with uberdata (plus a 3bar map sensor) assuming your going to probably run about 35psi, LOL, I want pics... |
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lol a twin turbo 1.5l nitrous, i wanna see this.
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Originally Posted by Scottsi
lol a twin turbo 1.5l nitrous, i wanna see this.
lol welcome to last year ;) http://www.newbieforces.com/files/Mvc-597f.jpg |
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I will get you pic. but the last time i tryed to post pic. it would not go 56k. Live to far away from the road to get cable.
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why fill the bottom half of the water jacket?...the stress is more towards the top
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Hows the water pump going to work if the bottom half is filled?
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Originally Posted by snuffy
I will get you pic. but the last time i tryed to post pic. it would not go 56k. Live to far away from the road to get cable.
lcplvest@yahoo.com i wanna see this ----. |
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WORTHLESS W/O PICS
Its funny, someone pulls a bunch of hoohaa out of their ass....that sounds impossible....and then a HMT member posts up a pic of it. |
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Filling the block is an old trick that helps in strenging the whole block and helps keep the main caps from walking at extrimely high RPMs.
In reguards to how dose the water pump work.The cement is not poured that deep. |
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how do you raise the dech height? do you just put in a plate with a head gasket on either side?
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Originally Posted by snuffy
Filling the block is an old trick that helps in strenging the whole block and helps keep the main caps from walking at extrimely high RPMs.
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I had a local machine shop make the spacer.
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Originally Posted by snuffy
I had a local machine shop make the spacer.
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The mains have no problems at high end, especially on D-series since the main block girldle is designed apart of the main caps. The thrust axis points on the sleeves is where you want to have support at. Its not at the bottom of the cylinder either, its about 1 1/2 inches down from the top of the deck. So if you have cement at the bottom of this thing, I'm curious to see how the water pump passage is going to work.
What is your R/S ratio with these custom sized rods and raised deck?. Honestly you would have been better off sleeving a 1.6 D, using a set of crower rods and forged pistons. It would be basically bulletproof. Jeff |
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Originally Posted by AbaZ
Honestly you would have been better off sleeving a 1.6 D, using a set of crower rods and forged pistons. It would be basically bulletproof.
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i dont understand why you useds block filler when you already had the block sleeved
Beau |
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Originally Posted by BLACKSI
i dont understand why you useds block filler when you already had the block sleeved
Beau |
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Got pics of this tubed pinto? lol...
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Originally Posted by BLACKSI
i dont understand why you useds block filler when you already had the block sleeved
Beau |
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Originally Posted by Kyle
it's like wearing 2 condoms and pulling out all while ------- a bitch that's on the pill, you gotta be safe.
Ever hear of friction? Do you know what friction does to rubber? I see baby KYLES running around! haha I wanna see pic of this setup! Please post pics (not your kids Kyle... the engine!) |
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Originally Posted by Kyle
it's like wearing 2 condoms and pulling out all while ------- a bitch that's on the pill, you gotta be safe.
double bagging is the unsafest thing to do |
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lubricated condoms fuckers, welcome to 1990 or whenever they came out with those.
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Originally Posted by Kyle
lubricated condoms fuckers, welcome to 1990 or whenever they came out with those.
Kyle, since you seem to be lacking knowledge in the getting laid department just listen to my words of advice. NEVER wear 2 condoms at once. It increases the chances of breaking like woah, even if they're lubricated. |
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Originally Posted by Kyle
lubricated condoms fuckers, welcome to 1990 or whenever they came out with those.
As whitey so nicely put it, doubling up on condoms will break regardless if they are lubricated. Lubricated condoms were designed to ease penetration when the vagina is not very lubricated, which tends to occur in older woman--or ----, I aint discriminating! |
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my r/s is 1.88. the top of the block is suported by the deck plate with the sleves pused down through it. the plateis 1in thick.
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the cement will keep the bores round when the sleves are pushed in to place. they have a .005 over tight fit.
the reason for the 15d the strock is shorter which in turn gives you a better r/s. |
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what is a "chipped p28 with uberdata"?
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Originally Posted by snuffy
what is a "chipped p28 with uberdata"?
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Originally Posted by snuffy
what is a "chipped p28 with uberdata"?
the bs flag is raised. if you have enough G2 to put together an engine like that and don't have fuel management down, your a ------ idiot. |
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Originally Posted by sccaeg
Originally Posted by snuffy
what is a "chipped p28 with uberdata"?
the bs flag is raised. if you have enough G2 to put together an engine like that and don't have fuel management down, your a ------ idiot.
Originally Posted by snuffy
OK here it is i am new to a Honda they have interested me for a great while. My history is with V8 cars
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i must be an idoit but we have been building v8s for years and am trying to learn from this site. so my be i am stupid but at least i am trying to fix the proplem.
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Originally Posted by snuffy
i must be an idoit but we have been building v8s for years and am trying to learn from this site. so my be i am stupid but at least i am trying to fix the proplem.
Don't mind sccaeg, he's as worthless as tits on a bull |
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Originally Posted by snuffy
i must be an idoit but we have been building v8s for years and am trying to learn from this site. so my be i am stupid but at least i am trying to fix the proplem.
but from my experiences, i wouldnt try to tackle something like this without knowing everything... :-\ ive built ALOT of carb'd V-8's in my days to- but im not about to just say ---- it, im gonna build a IL4 motor im gonna raise the deck a full inch, put custom built rods in it, fill the block, do the whole 9 yards. to me it just sounds a little :-\ maybe its just me. |
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I have built inline 4s before a 2300cc ford ranger with a moifiet holly weber carb running 16 psi and water injection so a honda is not that big a leep.
In regards to knowing everything i need to, that is what i am trying to do and am hopeing this site wiil be of help. |
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Originally Posted by snuffy
I have built inline 4s before a 2300cc ford ranger with a moifiet holly weber carb running 16 psi and water injection so a honda is not that big a leep.
In regards to knowing everything i need to, that is what i am trying to do and am hopeing this site wiil be of help. |
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mmmm.... girthy |
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There's people out there that will build things like this instead of the more normal stuff we do. That's just what they are all about is pulling something like this off.
I don't think like this, but one of the first guys I met up here in MN. (sikocivic/Tony) struck me as someone who would build something like this, and they aren't idiots. I like to call them "Crazy hardcore tech junkies". This raised deck thing could be bad, could be good, but without CHTJ'S, :D we would never get to see things like this. :-\ |
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Originally Posted by sccaeg
but from my experiences, i wouldnt try to tackle something like this without knowing everything... :-\ |
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