My Mini-Me
#13
Re: My Mini-Me
Originally Posted by MADMAX
He's not going to need them. Stock headbolts will be fine.
#14
Re: My Mini-Me
I'm getting the head studs for peace of mind.
I'm OK with premium fuel, I had to use it in the B17A1 in my last car. 12:1 is extremely tempting, but I'm worried about the reliability of that setup. How long did you run it and did you run into any issues? This is a DD we're talking about, and I put a lot of mileage on my engines.
And what car did the D16A1 come in?
Thanks for your input!
Originally Posted by slo_crx1
Werd. I'd honestly give those d16a1 pistons a shot in that a6...bumps your c/r up nice, even though they sit about .50mm lower than the a6 pistons. Looking around a 12:1 roughly with a z6 head and z6 head gasket. Only thing is at that high of a c/r it's gonna be premium gas only, and some good tuning, but if you're planning on a cam and some headwork down the road, you'll be glad you did this. I built one with the same setup quite a few years ago using pretty much leftover parts and a zex cam and ported my head myself. Never got to get an actual hp number, but it was good enough to keep up with 94+ gsr's and rip 99-00 si's a new -------. And that was off uber-ghetto tuning...vafc on a pg7 ecu :P
And what car did the D16A1 come in?
Thanks for your input!
#17
Re: My Mini-Me
Originally Posted by STD
I haven't built one before, but I want an engine to put into my Civic, and this seemed like the place to go for opinions and suggestions. Tried to search but the feature doesn't seem to work. I'm looking for specific advice anyway. I figure if anyone's built something similar they'd probably be on here.
My goal: To build a reliable mini-me for daily driving.
Straight-line power is not a priority, I like cornering. I chose the mini-me because it's cheap, and it's been done before and proven to work.
From dyno charts I've seen, it looks like there's a bit more power after the cutoff point, so I'm planning on setting the cutoff at 8000RPM. As I said earlier, reliability is still a factor, so I'm planning on beefing up the internals to handle the higher redline and compression. I feel like the block and head could probably handle what I'm going to do to it, but I want it to be handling it for a while. I'm not going to be beating on it more than once in a while, so I think that if I do things right I could get 100,000 miles out of it if I'm careful. Not sure though.
Here's what I'm planning:
D16A6 short block.
Getting the crank balanced.
The stronger rods from the 1st gen Integra engine.
OEM pistons. Are there ones from another engine that would work better for this application?
Lightweight flywheel.
And I'm weighing my clutch options as well. I want something stiffer than stock, but not by much.
D16Z6 head
I'm going to want stronger springs to prevent that pesky valve float.
I assume I'm going to be running a cam eventually, but I want to get this thing tuned and running right before I worry about a cam. I'm open to recommendations though.
D16Z6 tranny.
Im going to be rebuilding the tranny as well, just to be on the safe side. The synchros will be replaced, but probably not much else except for the seals and ----, obviously anything damaged will be replaced though.
Engine management.
This is an area that I don't have much experience in. If anyone has any input I'd appreciate it.
PS.
Please don't flame the noob! I really don't want to have to join Honda-Tech or D-series.org.
My goal: To build a reliable mini-me for daily driving.
Straight-line power is not a priority, I like cornering. I chose the mini-me because it's cheap, and it's been done before and proven to work.
From dyno charts I've seen, it looks like there's a bit more power after the cutoff point, so I'm planning on setting the cutoff at 8000RPM. As I said earlier, reliability is still a factor, so I'm planning on beefing up the internals to handle the higher redline and compression. I feel like the block and head could probably handle what I'm going to do to it, but I want it to be handling it for a while. I'm not going to be beating on it more than once in a while, so I think that if I do things right I could get 100,000 miles out of it if I'm careful. Not sure though.
Here's what I'm planning:
D16A6 short block.
Getting the crank balanced.
The stronger rods from the 1st gen Integra engine.
OEM pistons. Are there ones from another engine that would work better for this application?
Lightweight flywheel.
And I'm weighing my clutch options as well. I want something stiffer than stock, but not by much.
D16Z6 head
I'm going to want stronger springs to prevent that pesky valve float.
I assume I'm going to be running a cam eventually, but I want to get this thing tuned and running right before I worry about a cam. I'm open to recommendations though.
D16Z6 tranny.
Im going to be rebuilding the tranny as well, just to be on the safe side. The synchros will be replaced, but probably not much else except for the seals and ----, obviously anything damaged will be replaced though.
Engine management.
This is an area that I don't have much experience in. If anyone has any input I'd appreciate it.
PS.
Please don't flame the noob! I really don't want to have to join Honda-Tech or D-series.org.
#18
Re: My Mini-Me
Save you money for other things cause a NA minime is retarded. I wouldn't even deal with a minime. Just get a Z6 or y8. NA sohc d-series are better left to girls who drive civics to meet the guy they met on myspace only to be raped and chopped up and tossed in ditch along a county road that noone ever goes down. Then the car is sent off to the junkyard because her parents don't want to deal with thus where you get your parts to build your shitty minime. In the end it all comes down to myspace.
#19
Re: My Mini-Me
Originally Posted by STD
I'm getting the head studs for peace of mind.
I'm OK with premium fuel, I had to use it in the B17A1 in my last car. 12:1 is extremely tempting, but I'm worried about the reliability of that setup. How long did you run it and did you run into any issues? This is a DD we're talking about, and I put a lot of mileage on my engines.
And what car did the D16A1 come in?
Thanks for your input!
I'm OK with premium fuel, I had to use it in the B17A1 in my last car. 12:1 is extremely tempting, but I'm worried about the reliability of that setup. How long did you run it and did you run into any issues? This is a DD we're talking about, and I put a lot of mileage on my engines.
And what car did the D16A1 come in?
Thanks for your input!
#20
Re: My Mini-Me
Well, Maybe I'll run those pistons with a thicker gasket? 12.5:1 still seems too high. I heard with ZC pistons and .074" gasket I can get around 11.5:1, but I also heard you have to do some machine work to use aftermarket gaskets.... I'll figure it out later.
My next question: Do I need the A6 or the Z6 intake and exhaust manifolds?
lol I'm glad I can make a profit off the death of retarded MySpace chicks. I just picked up a Z6 head for $50
My next question: Do I need the A6 or the Z6 intake and exhaust manifolds?
Save you money for other things cause a NA minime is retarded. I wouldn't even deal with a minime. Just get a Z6 or y8. NA sohc d-series are better left to girls who drive civics to meet the guy they met on myspace only to be raped and chopped up and tossed in ditch along a county road that noone ever goes down. Then the car is sent off to the junkyard because her parents don't want to deal with thus where you get your parts to build your shitty minime. In the end it all comes down to myspace.