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Old 08-08-2006, 02:08 PM
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I am a filthy vtec lover as well, so when I used the wrong ARP studs on my mini-me and broke the threads for a head bolt out of my block, I sold all the D stuff, and bought a B16...

I <3 VTEC
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Old 08-08-2006, 02:34 PM
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d16a6 is a fun motor, if your looking for straight line speed then do the boosted LS but if you want a car that handles well and is fast, stick with an a6 or if vtec means that much a z6 with mild modifications and spend your money on other suspension work. i have a blast with my a6 and have spent money on suspension stuff(which is more rewarding to how i drive), a big motor has a lot of power but you add like a hundred pounds to the front of your car, thas just my 2 cents.
I have an LS swap and yea the car is slightly heavier in the front but not much at all, with a decent supsension it will handle just as well as an a6 and proper sized turbo it will be awesome for road coarse...I rock Konis and GCs and it rides on rails...

Honestly I'd say save for an LS swap and then either way you go NA or Boost you are ready if you want to go NA build the bottom and throw a B16 head on and have a mad tyte JDM LS/Vtec...or build it and boost the hell out of it, or just boost it stock and make 300hp
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Old 08-08-2006, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
A NA B16 is worthless.

2.0+ liters if you insist on high dollar low yield NA faggotry. Rob's old bottom end, 85.5X92mm, Carillo A-beams and Eagle crank, can be had for $2200 or you might talk the guy down a bit, needs ringed.

That's pretty much how you have to spend your money if you want a NA Honduh that's faster than a stock D16 with a T3...

i gonna copy first phrase in my sig .. like somebodyd did say me.. NA is gay!
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:29 PM
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All these motors are great platforms to start anything with. WE ALL have seen great dyno numbers and 1/4 times from all setups...from B's to D's. The difference is how deep your pockets are. You don't want to spend 4k...and thats fine. 1-2k WILL get you a pretty decent setup. But as you're wondering around for the best motor.......don't forget to look under your hood. Why not start with that guy? Its already there. Some people are so quick to jump onto something else when what they have is already good. Alot of time...its what the motor AND the driver can do. IMO..bang for the buck, stock whatever you have and NOS is the way to go. Poor mans turbo! But thats a "im ------ broke with no job" setup. Your motor, some fuel management, and a turbo set "HMT style" would be great fun and not too bad on the bank account. Gl with your path down the FI road.
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Old 08-09-2006, 09:13 PM
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Thanks for all the info fellas. I am going to work on some other stuff (suspension, a few wiring issues) till I can affoed a B16 swap. I know I could stick with the D in there but i was a dohc vtec after talking with some peopel on here and in RL. Thanks again.
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Old 08-10-2006, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
A NA B16 is worthless.
Originally Posted by kuroko
Thanks for all the info fellas. I am going to work on some other stuff (suspension, a few wiring issues) till I can affoed a B16 swap.
You're pretty stupid. Cut your teeth on a turbo D, then switch to anything B-series except the ****** B16 and boost the ---- out of it because it's going to be slower NA than a turbo D. If you can't understand those two sentences, just delete your account here and stop wasting our time.
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:14 AM
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---- that learning ----, turbo d-series is fun and all (my car has been aswesome), but starting out on a better platform will save you money in the end. I see nothing wrong with starting off with a NA B16, yes it's slow compared to a turbo d, very slow lol, but after you slap a turbo kit on their the mighty d-series won't stand a chance. I'd also suggest while your driving around in the slow NA B16 to start building a nice 1.8/2.0L block to slap in there when your ready for big boost.

As a matter of fact, that's exactly the plan I have for my car.
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:21 AM
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You are defiling the BBKA-mobile with a slow ****** B16?

I hate you.
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
---- that learning ----, turbo d-series is fun and all (my car has been aswesome), but starting out on a better platform will save you money in the end. I see nothing wrong with starting off with a NA B16, yes it's slow compared to a turbo d, very slow lol, but after you slap a turbo kit on their the mighty d-series won't stand a chance. I'd also suggest while your driving around in the slow NA B16 to start building a nice 1.8/2.0L block to slap in there when your ready for big boost.

As a matter of fact, that's exactly the plan I have for my car.
THis is more like what I was planning on doing. I know a NA B16 won't as fats as a turbo D, I am not an idiot. I am planning on doing an ls/vtec so while I am building the B18b block, I can run the B16 and then use the ehad off of it and boost that. Or maybe just do ls boost depending on what I come across. Anyway thanks for the info bro.
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:50 AM
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JD will tell you that vtec is gay and LS is the way to go, but I like the powerband on the vtec motors better, plus you will like the tranny a lot better. Shorter gears are better for acceleration, the LS tranny is way too long, especially if your reving high. I hate the long gears on my d-series, but I don't have many options like you b-seruies guys.
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