Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
04-18-2005, 07:09 PM
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Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
So i know that you can ditch the old stock crossmember in place of a modifed one like Jim fabs or like bumblebee guy
or even put in a traction bar like the one stevemode sells
my queston is is one better than the other or do they both pretty much do the same thing as far as reinforcing the frame rails and not ------- up your alignment or the way your car drives or steers?
any info or feedback w ould be great!
or even put in a traction bar like the one stevemode sells
my queston is is one better than the other or do they both pretty much do the same thing as far as reinforcing the frame rails and not ------- up your alignment or the way your car drives or steers?
any info or feedback w ould be great!
04-18-2005, 07:20 PM
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Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
I have moved to making a style similar to the l-con/full-race due to issures with b-series oil pans, but I still place a brace to one of the factory crossmember bolts. Full-race ramps on how there is better but I have studied the literature on there site and found that their finite analysis in there right up is not valid. I'm in school for engineering and use the excact program the use so I know what I'm/Their talking about.
The tow hook I dea has never really sat when with me in an EF car because of the moment created by the frame horns. The only reason I know make that style is because
1: Its the only way to keep proper geometry with the suspension on b-series cars
and 2: SO many companies make it in this format with no problems.
I am thinking of a few new deisign to tie the tow rails together without losing the horn to horn support while still giving PLENTY of room for headers & dp's/oil pans. That is one reason why fabrication is on hold. To upgrade designs and to better my product. (and to give me a chance to work on my car!)
The tow hook I dea has never really sat when with me in an EF car because of the moment created by the frame horns. The only reason I know make that style is because
1: Its the only way to keep proper geometry with the suspension on b-series cars
and 2: SO many companies make it in this format with no problems.
I am thinking of a few new deisign to tie the tow rails together without losing the horn to horn support while still giving PLENTY of room for headers & dp's/oil pans. That is one reason why fabrication is on hold. To upgrade designs and to better my product. (and to give me a chance to work on my car!)
04-18-2005, 07:23 PM
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Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
Originally Posted by bumblezc
I have moved to making a style similar to the l-con/full-race due to issures with b-series oil pans, but I still place a brace to one of the factory crossmember bolts. Full-race ramps on how there is better but I have studied the literature on there site and found that their finite analysis in there right up is not valid. I'm in school for engineering and use the excact program the use so I know what I'm/Their talking about.
The tow hook I dea has never really sat when with me in an EF car because of the moment created by the frame horns. The only reason I know make that style is because
1: Its the only way to keep proper geometry with the suspension on b-series cars
and 2: SO many companies make it in this format with no problems.
I am thinking of a few new deisign to tie the tow rails together without losing the horn to horn support while still giving PLENTY of room for headers & dp's/oil pans. That is one reason why fabrication is on hold. To upgrade designs and to better my product. (and to give me a chance to work on my car!)
The tow hook I dea has never really sat when with me in an EF car because of the moment created by the frame horns. The only reason I know make that style is because
1: Its the only way to keep proper geometry with the suspension on b-series cars
and 2: SO many companies make it in this format with no problems.
I am thinking of a few new deisign to tie the tow rails together without losing the horn to horn support while still giving PLENTY of room for headers & dp's/oil pans. That is one reason why fabrication is on hold. To upgrade designs and to better my product. (and to give me a chance to work on my car!)
04-18-2005, 07:37 PM
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Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
I really can't say. I have never driven or tested an l-con.
I can beat on another product. Mine are home made in my shop because I have the tools and room and a bit of knowledge due to my schooling.
From what I have heard L-Con has a GREAT product. It's just going to have to be what you want to go with. People say they love their Full-Race/L-Con, But people also Rave about JimFabs(which I believe has shut down now).
Sorry I can't be of anymore information. Maybe one of these days I will do a side by side (meaning beat on one for 1hr then the other) and come back with my personal results. But first I must get my car back on the road!
I can beat on another product. Mine are home made in my shop because I have the tools and room and a bit of knowledge due to my schooling.
From what I have heard L-Con has a GREAT product. It's just going to have to be what you want to go with. People say they love their Full-Race/L-Con, But people also Rave about JimFabs(which I believe has shut down now).
Sorry I can't be of anymore information. Maybe one of these days I will do a side by side (meaning beat on one for 1hr then the other) and come back with my personal results. But first I must get my car back on the road!
04-18-2005, 07:50 PM
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Re: Crossmember or traction bars on an EF?????
Originally Posted by bumblezc
I have moved to making a style similar to the l-con/full-race due to issures with b-series oil pans, but I still place a brace to one of the factory crossmember bolts. Full-race ramps on how there is better but I have studied the literature on there site and found that their finite analysis in there right up is not valid. I'm in school for engineering and use the excact program the use so I know what I'm/Their talking about.
I've always said the greatest thing about Full-Race is their marketing.
