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well, after a week of boost i have to say, the first thing to upgrade is your clutch. last week i was talkin with mycrx over AIM and he mentioned he had a good clutch for sale. exedy stage2. so i snatched that ---- up, it got here thurssay, install started saturday afternoon.

boosted Z6 with a bad clutch
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
remove all of the wire harness that attaches to the car, along with taking out the radiator and all fuel/coolant lines that attach to the car.
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
yank that fucker out
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
notice how easy that flex pipe bends out of the way :P
http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/2375Jb6j6/309355.jpg
take all of the bolts out that hold the tranny to the motor. yes, even the starter comes out....
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
take the clutch and preasure plate off, if it were a new clutch, i would have had taken the flywheel off also, and had it resurfaced. but used clutch=used flywheel. this flywheel accually doesnt look tht bad. also, once its all installed, the clutch will slip a little, so just go in and out of all of the gears alot, -drive it through the town for about an hour, it will be good then. ;)
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
new (used) clutch in. you will need a 12pt socket for this. (i forget what size)
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
it all put back together
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
all back together, and running good!
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

some people say its easier to leave the motor in and just remove the tranny, but i have done it both ways, and this is the easiest. I had the motor out in about an hour (after getting the axles out) and had the motor back in and running in about 1.5 hours. (by myself)
all in all, it was a fun weekend.

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omg, I cant beleive you pulled the engine to do a clutch job. There is no way in hell its faster to do it like that. I guess if your really bored and do not know wtf you are doing.. Go ahead?! but its a complete waste of time. Pulling a tranny (ESPECIALLY IN A EG/EK!) is so freaking easy. I'm not saying pulling the engine is hard either, but jesus why even waste the time doing all of that? Not to mention you have to replace the coolant, rebleed the system, risk ------- up connectors and breaking the TPS when pulling it out.

It's a 10mm 12pt socket btw, and you should have atleast cleaned up your flywheel w/ a rolac disc before you put it in.

::)

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Omg I didn't know you smoked crack ::) Why the ---- would you pull the motor to install a clutch? This makes about as much sense as pulling your motor to change your oil. And plus there's no way you did all that in 1.5 hours. That is 100% bullshit and you know it.

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call it what you will. it was easy for me. of coarse i had a little help with guiding the motor in, but once i got the motor all in there, it was pretty much cake walk.

so i guess its 100% bull ---- then.

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So your telling me its faster and easier to drain the coolant, disconnect the wiring harness, disconnect your charge pipes, take off your downpipe, pull the axles, undo all the mounts, and cherry pick the motor out of the car instead of just pulling the axles and undoing the tranny mount?

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I'm surpirsed Jeff didn't mention my name in this thread. :P I hate dropping trannies. I'd much rather yank the motor. If I had a lift or even a tranny jack it might be a little different, but if I had a cherry picker I would yank the motor. :-\ I guess I'm retarded too. :-[

BTW, the last tranny swap I did, I didn't yank the motor......and it sucked. :P
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wait, i just re-read it, yes, its not total start to finish time, 1.5 hours.

saturday i got the motor out. that took about 2 hours. -axles were being a bitch. then the place i was using to do everything closed at 4:30, so i had to stop.

I went back this morning at about 10, got the motor/tranny seperated the clutch bolted up, started putting the motor back in at about 12. by 2, it was rolling on its own power again.

not total time, 1.5 hours. hell no. your right whity, that would be 100% bull ----. total time, probably about 6 hours

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i yank the motor too :P i know it's very possible to do it with out pulling the motor, but i never have and honestly can't imagine getting it lined back up putting it on, especially with just floor jack and jack stands, a lift would be a little different, and i'm sure much easier.

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I put the tranny on a spare tire, drag it under the car, straddle that fucker and wiggle the ---- out of it until it slips in place. Not the funest experience, but it works. I think I need to buy a tranny jack or something.
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lol, I have no problem removing the tranny with the engine still in the car. I find it easier to put it back in then taking it out aswell. The only thing that pisses me off is I have to take apart the starter sometimes to get at that last bolt(EF).

Frank, you said you turbod your car too increase its resale value, if anything, I'd think you decreased it. I dunno if you are just unmature or what but having a well put together reliable car sure beats the hell out of a 170whp oil leakin', clutch slippin', boost spikin' flex pipin' open downpipein' fucked up car. There's doing ---- ghetto, and then there's doing ---- that's just dumb. Anyway good luck with your clutch and car, does you wife even ride in that thing with you?

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hahahah owned.

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i got a 50 spot on my moms saturn heads up with that heap.

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Homemade tranny jack using a leftover cutout from a 15" subwoofer..........

http://www.bettendorf.com/~mrbone/pi...trannylift.jpg

My best time for a tranny swap, 2:19 AT Mid Ohio, yes AT the track and not the comfort of home.

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spenser, you're such a tool man, all you do is talk ---- like you're the ------- know all of honda, all you know is what you read on the internet, do you even have a car? you try to act so skilled and knowlegeable, but the only pics you've ever posted were of a beat down ef hatch stuffing metal shavings in the muffler and stealing a fiberglass shower from wal mart to make a hood ::) ya know, i could sit here and say i've built 20 motors, done 50 turbo installs, welded in a few roll cages, and so on, and people would more than likely believe it, but i haven't so, i don't act like i have, you're really not fooling anyone but yourself ;)

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Spencer, you know whats funny is that unless someone else talks ---- about something you wont. You wana know what else is funny, I garantee if we lived near each other you wouldnt talk the ---- you do to everyone. I would like to see pictures of your car/set-up. how about you post those up?

If your gonna talk ----, talk ---- with something to back it up. until then shut the ---- up ;)

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i dont have a hoist so pulling the motor do do a clutch would be a bitch with having to jack the car up a ------- mile. I dont have a trans jack either, i just lift that ---- up or get under the car and lift it that way (seemed to work better and not result in bruises on my arms from reaching over the fender)

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You dropped the engine to do a clutch job :-[. That's kinda xtra work to me. It seems that u have a lot of time on ur hands. Next time just drop the tranny out instead of doing all that work. And invest in a tranny jack adaptor. I agree lining it up could be a bitch, but drop the engine to do a clutch job i rather ask for help instead of doing that.

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my help did show, notice how clean his hands are in the picture above.

so now i see this is a "well this is how I do it thread" which is cool, this is what worked for me. and it worked well at that. I have access to a lift, tranny jack, floor jacks, air tools, chreey pickers, a-frames, all the tools you can think of.

this is what was easiest for me. sorry it was a pain for the rest of you to look at it. time on my hands, after i would have done everything else, been pissed off, i think it was just as good.

::)

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If u say so, but unplugging ---- just to do a tranny :o. I just never heard anyone doing that. But it's funny as hell to see that u post this ----. I can't stop laughing. Congrats man to each is his own. At least the job is done.

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Just wait.. Whitey is doing a write up on "how to" change your spark plugs. It consists of removing the cylinder head, why? because its really easy to do.

I showed everyone at work this thread this morning, and they just went "WTF?"

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good for them. they and you should know an easier way, arent you a flat rate mechanic?

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Take it easy dog. It's just jokes man. U gotta admit that it's funny. Every time i see ur thread i start laughing.

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not exactly funny to me.
i did the ---- the best way i knew how, and look, i accomplished it very well. clutch seems to be holding real well. i must have done something right? ???

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No one is saying u did it wrong. It's the xtra work to accomplish the job. Like i said b4 atleast u got the job done.

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heres a link for a FULL indepth clutch install. its pretty informative all in all.
http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=139802
i wouldnt recommend 56k, theres about 50 pics and there pretty big

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bah, don't pay attention to them. Flatrate mechanics are the slowest mechanics out there when it comes to working on cars. Stay tuned for some of my tech writeups from HMT2;

- Removing the cylinder head to change spark plugs
- How to take out your dash to install a head unit
- Removing wheel hubs to install brake pads


I'm going to revolutionize the mechanic industry 8)

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yeah i'm about to do a write up on "how to wax your car", it will show how to remove all fenders, doors, hood and trunk because it's easy to do. :-\

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Yes! single me out. ::) I don't claim to be the know it all at nothing foo. I don't go around trying to put everyones setup down or call everyone stupid. I try to help out when ever I can, when I see something thats wrong, or someone that needs help or guidence, I post up.

My HMT canadian styles write ups were almost solely made as a comedy, yes I did drive around with that fiberglass hood one night and take it to the track, it saved on weight and its legal, unlike driving around with out a hood. The metal shavings in the muffler Did work, and yes it was a joke. I worked as a full time mechanic for a 13 months, I do alot of mechanical work for people on the side and for all my friends. Infact I got paid 200 in advance in september to do a full on motor removal, clutch job, stand alone install, intercooler, manifold, turbo, downpipe, exhaust and coil over install in a JDM 91 mr2 (sw20) in march when it arrives here from japan. I've built motors, performance v8s, honda engines and many 1 cylinder motorcycle engines. I've been welding up go carts, manifolds, car bodies and exhausts since I was probly 12 years old, I'm a relitively good arc and mig welder.

I should not have to back up the validity of my previous statements in this thread since they stand universally true, More over, my experience is nonessential to what has been said about franks car, in the way that any sane person would agree. I"m sorry if you don't agree with me. ;)

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ok I'll post up. My car has gone through many changes, and the one thing that I have learned is that performance and reliability have gone hand in hand. (and if you wana through in cheap, that is part of the equation aswell)

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getting a bit lippy are we ?

you guys take ---- to seriously. do you see spenser getting all mad when people talk about his civic ? no, cause he doesnt care. but yet you get all bitchy when he busts your nuts. time to grow the ---- up.

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Ya man, where just having a little fun. Take it easy. I'm no skilled mechanic, but if that's the new way of changing a clutch let me know. But dam i can't stop laughing. Yo u made my day. I haven't laughed like this all weekend. I don't even take out my axle from the rotor when changing a clutch/tranny. I pop it out from the tranny so i can drop the tranny out. But that's my way of doing it. Doesn't mean it's the best way.

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Clutch job? Unbolt the tranny, get under the car on a creeper and put it on your chest and slide out, then slide back in and put the tranny back in. The guys that said they can't do that should go to the gym ;)

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lol i weigh 140lbs and i did that a few days ago outside in the snow on a sheet of plywood WITHOUT a creeper

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Pullin an engine is way harder. Droppin a trans is way easier in my opinion. Oh well everyone has there own style

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i would say that for some people pulling the trans is harder, even though doing the motor is more work (but easier work i guess)

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That's what I'm saying. More work, but it's all easier work that doesn't require crawling on the greasy ass ground struggling with a 75lb. tranny.
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I pulled the tranny out of my parts car, I just dropped the whole motor/tranny assembly on the floor then dragged it out with my tow rope, it was fun.

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I am, but the hourly guys in are shop still don't pull engines when doing tranny jobs.

Bullshit, your still on the ground just as much. You still have to take the axles out, you still have to take the shift linkage off, and you have to take the exhaust off.

Man, maybe I should do a "flat rate" how-to on how to R&R a damn clutch set, jesus ::)

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even though you're being sarcastic, i would like to see that write up ;D i'm sure it's a lot less work to not pull the engine, but every time i've done a clutch, i had the engine out for something anyways, but i don't plan on pulling my engine again any time soon and have never dropped just the tranny, i would like to see the tricks, b/c it seems like it would be a pita to me :P

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only "trick" i can think of: leave the axles in the hubs and just pop the lower ball joint on each side and take out the bolt holding the strut in so you can swing the axles out of the way. This keeps you from having to bust out the impact gun and ------- with axle nuts