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Old 05-10-2006, 10:17 AM
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Most Honduh stuff is pretty resilient. Pump failure is not unheard of in B and D engines, but aside from Y7/Y8 or F/H I wouldn't worry about it.

Hrm. I wonder if F20C oil pumps are compatible with F/H?? My pee-pee just became fully erect.
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Old 05-10-2006, 10:53 AM
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so it is recommended to upgrade the y8 pump to the z6? I don't want to go through the trouble if it's not required. Could I just buy a z6 oil pump at autozone or something?
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Old 05-10-2006, 05:47 PM
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Yes, it does. It's a question of resonant frequency/harmonics. Frequency stays the same, but amplitude goes up with power.
Which is also why you should never run the Unorthodox Racing underdrive pulleys. No harmonic balancer to em
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Old 05-10-2006, 06:43 PM
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yeah rough on the crank and i'm sure the area around it. One company made some with dampeners but I forget the name
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Yes, it does. It's a question of resonant frequency/harmonics. Frequency stays the same, but amplitude goes up with power.
can you elaborate on this concept? I get the whole aftermarket pullye=---- concept, but this one needs some explaining.

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Think of it this way...take an empty glass and flick it with your finger. The tone produced is it's resonant frequency. Harmonics are just octave differences (amplitude) of the same tone or note. That's the reason the fat lady breaks glass when she hits an extremely high note...she's hitting a harmonic of the inherent resonant frequency. And the more the note or frequency is held, the more vibration is caused. Harmonics cause even faster vibrations (amplitude) which will eventually cause, in this illustration glass, to shatter. Now instead of glass, think steel cranks and oil pumps. It works the exact same way.
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yeah rough on the crank and i'm sure the area around it. One company made some with dampeners but I forget the name
I believe fluidamper made a honda balancer at one point, don't know if they still do though. They're more noted for their v8 balancers.
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so you're implying that the Y8 design is a bad design, and by adding more power that you're causing more vibrations, harmonics, whatever, and then it goes ----?
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Old 05-11-2006, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by slo_crx1
Think of it this way...take an empty glass and flick it with your finger. The tone produced is it's resonant frequency. Harmonics are just octave differences (amplitude) of the same tone or note. That's the reason the fat lady breaks glass when she hits an extremely high note...she's hitting a harmonic of the inherent resonant frequency. And the more the note or frequency is held, the more vibration is caused. Harmonics cause even faster vibrations (amplitude) which will eventually cause, in this illustration glass, to shatter. Now instead of glass, think steel cranks and oil pumps. It works the exact same way. I believe fluidamper made a honda balancer at one point, don't know if they still do though. They're more noted for their v8 balancers.
Yeah actually I think that is the company. I would look back for the magazine but I have wayyy too many and am way too lazy. At the time of the magazine they only had them for B-series engines.

I would also like to hear more about this oil pump issue so I know whether or not to upgrade my pump.
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