built D or stock B for boost
 

i have been thinking about selling my car and buying a 92-95 hatch but can't decide on and engine. i was thinking about getting a D with vtec and filling the block and getting rods, pistons, and crank. but on the other hand for about the same price i can get a stock B16 and probly run about 10 psi safely. both will be boosted just want opinions about what others would do.

thanks for the input.

Re: built D or stock B for boost
 

I'd just go with a stock B

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that's what i was thinking because my friend has a complete b16 but the numbers are scratched off the block ;) so i was just gonna get a gsr block and call it good.

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hahaha

come on man, don't be a dumbass

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definitely the b16. then later on you can throw some internals in that...

i meen come on, who still runs d series :P

Re: built D or stock B for boost
 

Ds are good but not worth building.......run them stock not built O0

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kind of a preferance thing. im in my d stage right now so id tell ya go with that

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It's preference. B's are way hotter and rev higher and have tons more power NA and can handle lots of boost in stock form. Not to mention they can spool bigger turbos. Built D? Yeah, they're alright I guess.

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turbo b16's are killer best setup imo

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Since you will be blowing the motor up :-X
Go with a D series. Parts availability and price.

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well lets see. my personal experience.

built d series on 16 psi. 253 hp 222.3 tq

bone stock b18c1 on 9 psi 319.9 249 tq.

you make the call.

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282...funk faker.

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my untuned b16 on about 7-8 psi is waaaay faster than my d16y7 on 13 psi

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because the key to making power with FI is reving higher ::)

Built D will make more power, go with that.

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If you're still building power after 7000, yeah it will make more power. What is the most power you've seen out of a built D? 500? What is the most you've seen out of a built B? What's the most you've seen out of a stock D? 300? What's the most you've seen out of a stock B?

No matter how you look at it, the B will make more power. D's are fun to ---- around with, but if you're looking for the most power a D is NOT the way to go.
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Re: built D or stock B for boost
 

thanks for the responces i guess i wil be going gsr block with b16 head and tranny on my hatch. ;D

Re: built D or stock B for boost
 

yeah, d series are fun to dick with, but b series is what drops the panties

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amount of power made isn't dependent on whether a motor is stock or built, all that means is it can handle more power ::) a stock b will make much more power than a built d on the same set up at the same amount of boost, period. the only thing that limits you is how much power you plan to make and run every day.

Re: built D or stock B for boost
 

i'd say go with the built D for reliability reasons,
forged>stock

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Power isn't everything guys... ;)

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it sure helps ;)

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This thread made me rethink about building a d-series( even thought i got rods, pistons, bearings), now i feel like doing a b-series swap for the long run.
I think more power owns me O0

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true dat. 8) Pat is proof of 12 sec. 1/4 mi. with a stock d. What are your goals? A B-series will make make more power, but for now I'm happy with a d. I don't need a dyno queen. I just want 12's on slicks. A stock d will get you there. A built d will ad reliability and the optiion to run higher boost and of course your tune is important. I'd rather spank a B with my D. :P

Re: built D or stock B for boost
 

you wont spanka boosted b with a boosted d.. bottom line.

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Correct there BBKA, youhave to plant the power to the ground.

NA D15 running 10's, NA F22 running 9's, need I say more!

Besides a BUILT D series will take 30+ psi and make 400+ whp.

Re: built D or stock B for boost
 

I have smoked a few boosted b-series cars.

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I went 12's on a stock B series on shitty ass street tires. B series in the end is cheaper and easier to go faster.

Re: built D or stock B for boost
 

what makes the b series better? more displacement? better heads?

the magical one cam for intake and one cam for exhaust isnt what does it.

i think the b series vtec heads and cams just flow well and make good power?

Re: built D or stock B for boost
 

If you buy a 92-95 si hatch you will already have a d16z6, then all you have to do is buy rods/pistons and you should be able to get 300whp without too many problems. A stock b-series will handle that much power, but your going to spend at least $2,000 (probably more) just to do the swap, so going with a built d will be cheaper than a stock b. I woudl rather have forged rods/pistons anyways. So I guess it all depends on how much you want to spend. You coudl just piece together a LS/Vtec and get a cheap hatch as well, but those little parts will probably start to add up.

If I sold my car and started all over I would probably get a 92-95 vx/cx hatch and swap a GSR in it, then eventually build the ---- out of the motor and buy a big fatty turbo. :)

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i mean a descently set up one pat, not some nog runnin 3 psi with a greddy kit.

i mean ----, what would u rather have m\r sohc...... ;)

Re: built D or stock B for boost
 

Well I beat some LS/Vtec turbo hatch that supposedly runs mid 11's and traps 120-122 mph by like 50 cars... 8) He said he was having voltage problems and wouldn't race me again lol.

I know what ya mean though. ;)

Re: built D or stock B for boost
 

yeah, built as in fully built/sleeved. hell, if that's the case. a 'built' b will take 30+ psi and make 600whp.

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b-series is crack, i need it now like a fiend

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I think d is great but I also dream of a b series swap. They just have more potential and that is the next step for me, swap in a b18 swap over the turbo and have some fun!!

Re: built D or stock B for boost
 

Ok, But I don't like the fact that it will cost somewhere between $1200-$2000 maybe more to swap in a b-series motor that came from who knows where. I'd rather have a freshly built d. I don't agree that a B is cheaper in the end. I think you can build a d for less. Yes, a B is easier to go faster and a boosted stock b can put down 300 whp. Oh hell I don't know. :P I think this question all depends on how much money you want to spend and how fast you want to go.

Re: built D or stock B for boost
 

if your lookin for warp speed, go b series, if ur lookin fora pretty fast car , but no amazing stay d series.

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yeah i am looking for warp speed ;)

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hey jeff.. u already have the hatch or what are you looking to spend.. i know a guy with a deeper bronze like 95 hatch...with C/F hood.. all stock but its a sick color for a set of bronze or black rims.. it looks pretty clean too.. i think he wants 3000 obo.. ?

Re: built D or stock B for boost
 

screw up a B tranny = $700

screw up a D tranny = $200

Which ever motor you choose, you WILL trash a few trannys!

I;m staying "D" as it is what I can afford, same way HMT got started.

Re: built D or stock B for boost
 

That's the reason why i've been sticking w/ D's