building block, need suggestions
11-26-2003, 10:03 AM
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Re:building block, need suggestions
Honda builds there motors really tight on clearances. When I rebuilt my D15B7 I was lucky and all were "black". I bought "black" bearings from Honda and they were well within service limits even after 175,000 miles!!! I had never built a Honda motor before, only Ford so the whole color coding ---- was new to me. I later built an F22A1 using ACL bearings (Honda bearings are always on DEEP back order in my area.. I had no choice) and they're still holding up well for the new owner of the car after 3 years.
I guess the only tip I have is: for your more accurate measurements try to build your motor with all parts at the same temperature (like 69-75 degrees if possible is optimal). Allow parts to sit and achieve this temperature for 24hrs... this will yield the most accureate measurements. When all you have as a hobby builder is plastiguage (I can't afford nice micrometers needed etc) every edge you can get counts! Double check ALL bearing clearances... you never know if you got sold a wrong bearing, don't ASSUME just because one was right, the rest will be too!
I guess the only tip I have is: for your more accurate measurements try to build your motor with all parts at the same temperature (like 69-75 degrees if possible is optimal). Allow parts to sit and achieve this temperature for 24hrs... this will yield the most accureate measurements. When all you have as a hobby builder is plastiguage (I can't afford nice micrometers needed etc) every edge you can get counts! Double check ALL bearing clearances... you never know if you got sold a wrong bearing, don't ASSUME just because one was right, the rest will be too!
11-26-2003, 10:45 AM
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Re:building block, need suggestions
ok.. man hybrid forum is kicking *** lately.. good info coming into it.. ok.. so.. lets say i rip my a6 out of my car. tear off the head and unbolt the rod and main bearing caps.. how do i know which bearings i already have?
11-26-2003, 11:48 AM
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Re:building block, need suggestions
each engine uses a certain "color" of bearing, to the best of my knowlege, it's based solely on what engine it is, and unless accessive wear has occurred, the same color should fit within spec.
11-28-2003, 10:24 PM
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Re:building block, need suggestions
Actually, ever crank has numbers stamped into it. The number sybolizes which color your crank should use. As I know it, the number to color translation can be done by your honda dealership. There's a chart, but I've never found it. Also, there is a number stamped on each crank throw, so there's more than one number. The crank throw with "6" for example will use " " color, and the crank throw next to it may have a different number than used in the one right next to it. I'm going through all this now. 
11-30-2003, 05:45 AM
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Re:building block, need suggestions
Mr. Frank knows alot about this ----. I look up to him!
Anyways, i bought a random set of bearings, threw them in and fired the car up and boom no oil pressure (good pump) ------- bearings where the wrong size(100% my fault). so i said ---- it and ran the car to the ground, now maybe someday a zc will go in it (hint hint JF) :-P
I will see what i can do for the color chart. I have been searching because i'm building an LS vtec for a friend.
Anyways, i bought a random set of bearings, threw them in and fired the car up and boom no oil pressure (good pump) ------- bearings where the wrong size(100% my fault). so i said ---- it and ran the car to the ground, now maybe someday a zc will go in it (hint hint JF) :-P
I will see what i can do for the color chart. I have been searching because i'm building an LS vtec for a friend.
12-06-2003, 12:55 AM
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Re:building block, need suggestions
www.slowmotionmotorsports.com i believe they have a tech art. about honda bearings...
they are a local car club/tuning shop in my town. try a 95 civic hatchback with 406whp. and a dodge neon (fastest in ohio) ran a 12.44 (n/a). they are a quick *** team.
they do all their own wideband tuning, pretty nice guys to. go check out their articles.
they are a local car club/tuning shop in my town. try a 95 civic hatchback with 406whp. and a dodge neon (fastest in ohio) ran a 12.44 (n/a). they are a quick *** team.
they do all their own wideband tuning, pretty nice guys to. go check out their articles.
12-06-2003, 06:46 PM
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Re:building block, need suggestions
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You have to sign up for the site, but it is 110% worth it. You could read every article they have there, and not waste one minute of your time. Very, very informative, great refrence, I can't rave enough about them.
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12-08-2003, 09:41 PM
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Re:building block, need suggestions
Just do what i do let the machine shop do everything. 
But im lazy and plus i scrwed up already.Dunno but the shop over here is assembling my entine bottom and installing new bearing ,seal and redoing the crank for 300. but thats me :P
But im lazy and plus i scrwed up already.Dunno but the shop over here is assembling my entine bottom and installing new bearing ,seal and redoing the crank for 300. but thats me :P
