nonvtec

When I say B16A2, I mean any JDM/USDM B16 that is OBD2 92-00, that is what most online places that sell them mean too.

88crxSi

pssst.

92-95 = obd1
96+ = obd2

nonvtec

I know, but in Japan and as far as the USDM B16's go, the B16A2 was in cars from 92-00. The 92-93's came with cable tranny's off of the integra XSi and are 170 hp. The B16A2's with hydro trannys were OBD2 I guess and JDM had 170 hp, USDM 160 hp. Another complication with the A2 would be a cel. Wouldn't you get a cel for not having a downstream O2 sensor, Do people that put the OBD2 B16A2 in OBD1 cars always get cels?

GimpyCivic

No, because they wouldnt use a OBD2 ecu Plus you can eliminate those o2 cel/mil's real easy anyway should be be a big enough crackpot to convert you OBDI vehicle to OBDII

Also hydro B series trannys have been around a lot longer than 96+ I have no idea when the first showed up, but way before that. I would assume right around when the EG's came to be.

88crxSi

what the hell does all that mean! lol

first off. ALL b16 motors in japan are known as B16A nothing else.

JDM..
92-93 teg Xsi = b16a obd1 cable trans
89-91 crx/civic sir = b16a obd0 cable trans
92-95 civic = b16a obd1 hydro trans
96+ civic = b16a obd2 hydro trans

USDM..
93-95 del sol = b16a3 obd1 hydro trans
96-97 del sol = b16a3 ond2 hydro trans
99-00 civic si(r) = b16a2 obd2 hydro trans

EDM.. ---- THAT.

nonvtec

Thanks for the info, ideally, I would like an OBD1 B16 JDM because they have more hp anyway, but that isn't going to happen. Wouldn't I use a P30 or P28 OBD2 ECU for the SIR2 B16 in Japan (OBD2) or the USDM B16A2? Or as Gimpycivic said before, could I just chip my own ECU, then buy a B16A2 or JDM B16 SIR2 and hydro tranny and be done with it?

GimpyCivic

I'm going to lay this out real plain like: stick-with-the-obd-your-car-was-built-with-in-this-case. If you intend to use a OBDI or II B16A, you're in good shape. All you need to do then is add a few small things to your P06 to allow it to control VTEC and socket the ECU. Then you can just plop in a P30 program and disable the knock. It will lack a knock sensor, but Hondas knock sensors blow dick anyway. If its an OBDII engine, dont matter.. just means you wont be using the CKF sensor and a couple other things that dont matter.

Please stop confusing yourself!

nonvtec

Lay it down brother, lay it down.

ProzacOverdose

let me put this down KINDERGARDEN style....
1-buy any b16 you want..obd0,1,2,3,4,5 whatever
2-buy a hydro B series trans. the one from your car(civic dx) WONT FIT
3- your stock wiring harness WILL fit on..with little mods for some wires and extra wires
4-IF the motor comes with mounts, they will GO RITE IN. no mount kits needed. your stock driver mount and rear bracket will fit...only the B series tran mount will be needed.
5- buy a obd1 distributor.
6- buy a shift linkage from a 94+ integ
7- use axles from a 94+ integ
8- you can use a p28, p30, p72 ecu...as long as they are OBD1. but be warned...power diff is major from the 3. also...the p72 requires extra sensors.
i think this covers most of it...now..was that easy....oh yeah............2400 will get you a FULL HYDRO b16 swap..let me know if you want that. im in cal....makes things easier. i hope this helps

OnYx

Incorrect, the del Sol was B16a2 AND B16a3 adn the 99-00 SI's were B16a2.