b16 rex.. burning oil like a bitch :(
 

so i picked up a head gasket.. some copper spray.. ordered a valve cover gasket too...

need to change all thease fuckers a.s.a.p

will be picking up a tourque wrench aswell

someone mind helping with tourque specs?

how do i remove the head properly?

any tips?

any help would be appreciated

the fucker is running on 2 cylinders because the middle 2 plugs are bad.. not going to change the plugs till i change the headgasket..

let me know ------, thanks

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Isn't there a link on here for downloadable manuals?


Ninja Edit:
I can't even find the link... maybe I'm thinking of another forum???

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well first you take off cam caps 12mm about 16 of them then there will be i beleave 8 headstuds 14mm remove them you may need a breaker bar dont use your tourqe wrench you may have to re-calibrate if you do. then there are some coolant lines in the back of the intake mani 1 on the head its also best to put the motor at tdc before you take it apart so you dont have to later then the pvc hose needs to come off ( hose on black box) it may be a bitch to pull the head off but it will come off unplug all injectors & fuel rail ect or better yet get a haynes manual then take a razor or steelscrub brush remove left over gasket and install on install be carefull of the dowel pins. ive never used copper spray so that is over my head.

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http://www.clubcivicquebec.com/techLinks_f.php

Btw guys, we spell it "torque" not "tourqe" or "tourque" ;)

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ill change all gasket of my ZC DOHC next week ill do a how-to ;D, it isnt to hard really, just read manual of ur car and torque all by looking specs before do it correctly of course.

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You may also want to take the head to the machinst to to get a quick mill to make sure you have a good sealing surface. Also I would recommend a heavy degreasing on the head to clean up ports/chambers vlaves etc.

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not to be a dick , but you have over 5k post and you don't have a clue on changing a head gasket, nor own a torque wrench?

Okay here are my two cents.

CYLINDER HEAD bolt torque order and specs
8, 4, 2, 6, 10 <---intake order 3, 7, 9, 5, 1
7, 3, 1, 5, 9 <---exhaust order 4, 8, 10, 6, 2

Torque in steps: 22ft-lbs (264in-lbs), Then to 63ft-lbs (756in-lbs) (final spec) 94+ Teg
Torque in steps: 22ft-lbs (264in-lbs), Then to 61ft-lbs (732in-lbs)(final spec) 90-93 Teg / B16's

Re: b16 lsd tranny rex runs!!!! now how the fuck do i fix the timing??
 

thanks i got that fucker almost done..

now i need help getting the timing straight :(

any tips? i got the fucker at tdc and the 2 cams alligned but for some retarded reason theres a god awful ammount of slack on the belt between the 2 camshafts :(

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I have always had a little slack between the two cams (Like about a half of a tooth) when ive done friends. After I get it all lined up and get the belt on, I spin the motor counter clockwise about 3 times with the tensioner kinda loose so it can suck up the slack of the belt. Then I line up my bottom pully on the tdc mark, and look at my cams. If they are still lined up than lock down the tensioner, put it together, and call it a day. then I Drink a bunch of beers. :D

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the 2 cams are 1 tooth off :(

http://www.t-mobilepictures.com/phot...9720l6d7ry2tpw


lol ill try again in a little bit or tomorrow..

ratcityrex makes it sound alot easier then it is :(

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getting timing on twin cams sucks, i used to hate it but it takes a little practice. The way i do it is get the belt roughly routed around the waterpump and tensioner, and then get it settled on the crank. Then carry tension onto the front cam, and use a (i think 12mm for b and possibly 14mm for H) wrench to move the cams. So slide the belt onto the front cam a little, and then hold tension on it while manipulating the rear cam and slide the belt onto it. It sounds confusing but after you do a few it works well. Yes there will be slack between them but the deflection shouldn't be much more than you'd find between the exhaust cam and the crank. Just try to eyeball the locating teeth on the cams and the notch on the inner timing cover.

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the springs/valves are pressing on the lobes wanting it to cock to the side that ---- pisses you off, just have to take a 14mm wrench and put some pressure (not to much) on the front cam gear bolt and slide the belt on.

Having a friend's help is nice at this point. make sure you have some beers ready.

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also use a allen wrench in the locater holes on the cams themselves to hold it all in place while doing the belt, just make sure there tight in the holes so it dont move at all :-*

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good tip i forgot those shits were even there

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i try to be helpful to member that show respect, but some, who i will not mention are just plain disrespectful, just make sure the allen wrench your pick fits tight

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hey.. what happends in gd stays in gd..

but to be honest someone who threatens someone online with bodily harm from a gun is just kinda not smart..

its nothing against you.. heh i just thought only 10 year olds did that ---- :-\

ok so someone just told me that the tooth has to be lined up with the rim of the head where the valve cover sits

i thought that didnt make sense.. because what difference would it make ???

but yeah.. with the crank @ tdc does the cam gears teeth have to be lined up on the thing that the valve cover sits on? the "rim" if you will.. lol

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there should be a line on each cam gear that will point to the line on the other gear...my ms paint skills suck so just go take a look at your gears, there are little lines near the teeth

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got the timing set and started the car still running on 2 outer cylinders pretty sure i just need another dizzy anyways when i rev the car i hear ---- that almost sounds like sand hitting metal and its ------- low as ---- and barely audible over the engine, most likely gonna pull the engine and sell the shell and engine and keep the tranny for my gsr

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match the lines up with thre lines on the cover in back of them it will have a little dash also i was having the same problem route the belt around the waterpump but put it on the exhaust side before the intake and everything should be strait

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so whats the sand noise

that was made for a total of 2 seconds or less then i shut off the engine.. only happend when i revved it high and again.. it wasnt that loud

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sand noise? post video -----

also wtf man just download the helms manual, with the dohc the timing marks should meet each other at the centre right? sounds like you need to adjust teh valves, before you start that ----, try turning it over with the wrench or something, its also helpfull if you yank the plugs and put a long screwdriver in the cylinder and then turn the engine over by hand to find tdc.

----, just call me god dammit, you got teh pm.

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compression/leakdown test?

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dont know what a leak down test is (i fail miserably) but ill get a compression test up asap

btw the head gasket didnt set from one end.. its leaking a bit of oil.. but when i ran the car the leaking didnt turn into gushing or anything.. lol infact i think the leaking slowed down.. i guess it was a bad head gasket that came with the car :-\

i will prolly pull the head later to redo this ----.. thats if i dont sell the fucker and get it over with first..

i can still win by selling the mounts for 100.. the head for 5-600 the block for 3-400 and the rolling shell for 600 on a bad day

i guess ill pick up a cometic.. lol

i fail at life.. but hey.. i got timing within a ---- hair.. and the car runs.. lol

pretty sure i dont own anything that will pick up the noise its making..

compression test coming soon.

signorelli. thanks. ill call you tomorrow.

i think im done for tonight.. got a 12 hour shift in less than 5 hours and im on no sleep.. lol

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well first...what makes you think its running on two cylinders? are you pulling plug wires while it runs to see if there is a difference?

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yessir.. lol i pulled plug wires 2 and 3 and no difference..

can someone please tell me what the sand noise is... its exactly like sand hitting something metal.. i dont think anyones done it before.. but it also sounds like driving through a sand storm.. lol

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firing order is wrong

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damn thats what someone suggested to me 2 seconds ago.. lol

anyone got the firing order of a b16 handy?

right now im more worried about the noise that sounds like sand hitting metal from 2500 rpm on up :(

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does it sound like knocking?

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switch the 2 that arent sparking when you remove them :y

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not really.. ive heard knocking before.. lol (sadly)

it sounds like sand.. or ------- idk man.. i cant explain it.. honestly.. its like sand hitting aluminum foil.. it sounds like thrashing.. someone said its detonation.. and told me to retard the dizzy..

i will switch those 2 tomorrow

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1-3-4-2

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drain your oil you may have dropped something in your motor

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wouldnt hurt to try :'(

so adjusting the dizzy timing has nothing to do with that noise at higher rpm? meh :-\

thanks ;D

---- i cant wait to get home to get this fucker done..

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kinda hard to diagnose noises coming from a motor thats running on two cylinders ;)...they dont sound right like that anyway


edit: have you taken out the plugs and taken a look down in there? you never know what mightve ended up in there while you had the head off lol

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yea it was clean before i put the head back on and i installed new plugs.. looked perfectly fine to me.. lol

suprisingly the motor is actually pretty quiet running on cylinders 1 and 4 only.. almost sounds normal at idle too lol

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lol fixed the spark plug order and now the car runs as if it has a stage 10 cam :1

buurp buuurrp burrrp buuurrrp buurrrp buuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrppppp burp burp brp brp brp :1

i couldnt hear the sand noise anymore.. but im tired as ---- just got off a 10 hour shift so i need to wait for my friend to come over to lend me his ear.. lol

kinda happy right now cause when i revved the motor it felt like power ;D

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congrats on your first timing belt!!!!!!!

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vacuum leak sir

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ran it today to the gas station through all the gears.. ------- retarded for doing it at night and improper plate.. but i did transfer insurance over to the car before i left.. lol

so yeah hopefully all i need to do is redo the gasket..

heh

i will double check everything tomorrow :y

this fucker was ------- zippy i dont have the balls to test the high end since i dont have proper plates.. lol.. cant wait to feel what the gsr runs like.. going to finish up a little of the gsr tomorrow night..

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compression test results will be here tomorrow 100% for sure.. got the compression tester in my car..