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FrancoisP 02-06-2006 09:57 PM

You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
So, I am building a pretty crazy set up. I m using a BMW 7 serie E32 short body, that is use to run on V8 4 liters... And I am replacing it by a M70 V12 BMW 5.5 Liter with TwinTurbo Garrett T04B, expected to run at 11PSI ... O0 :S

The car is pretty heavy, so, I upgraded the brakes with the Best M5 brakes available, changed the Electronic Damping System with new M5 EDC III system.
The Car is a 750i, so, my goal is to get 750HP... :6 :y
Since that much power will destroy the 4HP22 gearbox of the 750i, I am adding a 6 speeds gearbox from the famous 850CSi from BMW ...

If you want to see the setting, and all the upgrades, take a look at http://www.v12extreme.com ,you ll see my Home made Turbo :) :6 :) ::)
I am now working on the ECU and DMEs and making sure the monter need its gas ... ;) >:D I did couple of mistake building it, like scratching the pitons ... later on, i fixed it with Ceramic coating ...

I hope you ll like it, please feel free to comment.

FrancoisP >:D
This forum is awesone

1337 02-06-2006 10:01 PM

Re: You wantturbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
wtf? i dont get it ???

FrancoisP 02-06-2006 10:24 PM

is it a forum only for Jap car?
 
may be I am not at the right place ...
If so , sorry :1

N1ghtM0nkey 02-06-2006 10:33 PM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
What's not to get?

12 cylinders, 2 turbos, lots of HP in a big car.

;D

Pics please, I had a hard time navigating your website.

HondaTuner 02-06-2006 10:39 PM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
lol he's using the same eBay piping my cousin and I are using... looks great dude

FrancoisP 02-06-2006 10:52 PM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
Here is the picture of the baby ...

[img width=800 height=500]http://www.v12extreme.com/post/turbonit1.jpg[/img]
The set up ... I am bending the exhaust pipes now,to get the turbos on the front of the V12

[img width=800 height=500]http://www.v12extreme.com/post/Turbocleaned.jpg[/img]
The Two T04B ... shinny

[img width=800 height=500]http://www.v12extreme.com/post/beauty1.jpg[/img]
Yeah... that 's heavy O0

[img width=800 height=500]http://www.v12extreme.com/post/blowoff.jpg[/img]
Yeah... I am using Jap car hardware:)

[img width=800 height=500]http://www.v12extreme.com/post/bothcluth.jpg[/img]
A little Cluch upgrade ... :6

[img width=800 height=500]http://www.v12extreme.com/post/flywheel2.jpg[/img]
Ultra light weight flywheel ... Fidanza

[img width=800 height=500]http://www.v12extreme.com/post/small_Engine_and_heads.JPG[/img]
Nude !!! totally nude :)


[img width=800 height=500]http://www.v12extreme.com/post/before.jpg[/img]
Back in time ... The engine started like this

[img width=800 height=500]http://www.v12extreme.com/post/turbonit3_modif.jpg[/img]
One Design error !!!

[img width=800 height=500]http://www.v12extreme.com/post/smallcarwithoutengine.jpg[/img]
Somebody had to lose an engine...

[img width=800 height=500]http://www.v12extreme.com/post/nomicket.jpg[/img]
Design corrected, but still too high!!!

I hope you get enough overview now ! sexy? no?

FrancoisP

ef8 h0! 02-06-2006 11:01 PM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
Good job! :y

Oh and, HOT ------- SEX! O0

iamanonymous 02-06-2006 11:03 PM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
i think it's totally sweet man!

FrancoisP 02-06-2006 11:56 PM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
http://www.v12extreme.com/post/Intercooler.jpg
I ll be using 2 intercoolers from Subaru in the Setup.

FrancoisP

90dx 02-07-2006 12:19 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
Holy ---- :o That is just badass.Loving the SSauto chargepipes that adds a nice touch to the whole project.Keep the updates coming and I think you must be the first HMT V12 :y

MikeJ-2009 02-07-2006 12:22 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
I don't know, with 12 cylinders and 2 turbo's I wouldn't shoot for anything less than 1000 HP >:D. In the nicest way possible, you're a fucken nut bag. When is it gonna be finished?

Good work.

FrancoisP 02-07-2006 12:38 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
Well, I am use to do Supercharger ... So, my Kung Fu is weak on some turbo detail.
Here is my Jag Twin Supercharger:
http://www.v12extreme.com/Publicatio...s/image145.jpg

For example,I do not know how to connect my exhaust DownPipe on the exhaust side of the T04B "P" ... any idea? The "P" is my problem.

http://www.v12extreme.com/Publicatio...s/image177.jpg
I went down to this.. :) changed all bearings.

70Challenger 02-07-2006 12:54 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
that is ------- sex

N1ghtM0nkey 02-07-2006 12:57 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
Congratulations.

You're my new ------- hero.

:o

Ravage70 02-07-2006 01:02 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
crazy frenchman 8)

FrancoisP 02-07-2006 01:03 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
If you have broadband ...
Here is my goal resumer in a video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...05942310709306

This is what I want to archive ... beat the crap out of a Porches Turbo with a big sedan ... :6 :y :y :y

FrancoisP

J-SMITH69 02-07-2006 01:04 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
whats the displacement on that motor?

edit: 5.5l... i thought the bores looked really small... pretty small motor.

good luck. looks badass

FrancoisP 02-07-2006 01:07 AM

AnyBody ever used T04B garrett with "P" trim ???
 
If so, please explain me how to connect it to the Turbo and the downpipe ... :1 :S

FrancoisP ::) :o vrooooommmmmmmmm

J-SMITH69 02-07-2006 01:09 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
the place where the exhaust exits the turbo, after its spun the turbine...

FrancoisP 02-07-2006 01:17 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
So, without the turbos, it is the performance of this V12

Displacement :5379
Number of cylinders : 12
Max Power Outpout :240 kw 326 ch
- at engine speed:5000tr/min
Max Torque : 490 Nm
- at engine speed: 3900 tr/mn
Compression Ratio :10,0 e
Bore / Stroke : 79.0 / 85.0 mm
Mixture preparation :Digital Motor Electronics ;D

FrancoisP O0 vroooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

FrancoisP 02-07-2006 01:22 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 

See??? on the back of the turbos ...I want to know how to attach my 3" down pipe behind the T04B ... V-Clamp? How do you do this?
http://www.v12extreme.com/post/turbonit5.jpg


FrancoisP :S :S :S :S

Ravage70 02-07-2006 01:35 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
weld on a flange or weld the pipe directly on it

from the pics it doesnt seem like u have much lip for a vand

Donald125 02-07-2006 01:37 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
you have to weld a v-band flange onto the exhaust outlet. weld another flange onto the actual downpipe, then connect them together with a v-band clamp.

pretty bad ass O0

FYI the origional output of this motor
240kw =322 horse
490nm =362 tork.
seems a little low to me, I think the newer 760 has better output :P I think murdocs benz has something liek 390 horse and 400 tork ^-^

90dx 02-07-2006 01:38 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
I just watched that video you linked and holy ---- does that M6 sound beautiful. :y

FrancoisP 02-07-2006 01:47 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
:) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D This M6 is Bad bad ass .....


FrancoisP

J-SMITH69 02-07-2006 01:49 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
lol M6 :l

FrancoisP 02-07-2006 03:02 AM

Electronics Damping Controle:EDC III
 
Just to show this cool tech from BMW.
The car shockers are intelligent, they can adapt to different ride settings, using 2 coils and a Onboard computer
http://www.v12extreme.com/post/edc_shocksmall.JPG


The ride can be "K" confort ... or "S" for Sport...

The E32 7serie, the M5 and M6 has it. couple others too.

FrancoisP

SkunT 02-07-2006 04:06 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
holy frickin sweet set-up. thats gonna be nuts. i could only imagine what that thing would be like on the highway....

crx2fast 02-07-2006 04:16 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
holy ---- man.. you got a nice project goin on there. you gotta keep us posted on this one. that things gonna be one bad ass bitch, the bimmer looks ------ mint too. i say you should have just kept the turbo's up high like that, and cut the hood and have them pop out haha
nahh but looks good man, keep it up


lol his v12 swap is like a b series swap to us hahaha

Reddy 02-07-2006 05:10 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
http://www.v12extreme.com/post/turbonit1.jpg

Lol, looks like a flipped HF manifold. Definitely some HMT stuff right there.


Also you have your oil inlet and return backwards. Rotate the center section 90 degree if you don't want a smoke machine and 2 bad turbos.

FrancoisP 02-07-2006 05:30 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
Yep .... I know about the orientation of the turbos ....
They are going to be on the front of the engine , I moved them last week. I ll take some pics.



FrancoisP O0 O0 O0 vrooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmm :6


sixsick6 02-07-2006 05:44 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
Two diverter valves and one blow off valve?

FrancoisP 02-07-2006 05:48 AM

The MAF on the Jap settings?
 
O0

So, on the Jap cars, do you put the MAF (Mass air flow sensors) before or after the turbo? I did read about both of them ... What do you think?



FrancoisP :S :S :S :S

FrancoisP 02-07-2006 05:53 AM

both side have the same devices.
 
This is a fully symetrical system.

The intake has 1 blow off valve per side and one Waste Gate.
I am thinking about doubling the blow off valve, with one boost controler in cascade. I did that on my Jag ... one blow off valve is wired to blow off at 11psi ... to save the engine in case of electronic error or malfunction of the Subaru blow off valves.



FrancoisP

dragon 02-07-2006 07:21 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
nice man I like the setup that looks badass

idiot-stick 02-07-2006 08:23 AM

Re: The MAF on the Jap settings?
 

Originally Posted by FrancoisP
O0

So, on the Jap cars, do you put the MAF (Mass air flow sensors) before or after the turbo? I did read about both of them ... What do you think?

If you are using stock computers, it will probably run better with the MAF after the turbo. If you are going standalone, either way. You'll get mixed opinions on MAF placement with standalone.

djfob 02-07-2006 09:39 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
------ insane..........keep us updated :6

BoosTedZSix 02-07-2006 09:56 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
you sir, are ------- insane. HMT status :y

70Challenger 02-07-2006 11:02 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
maybe I missed this part, but what are you doing for engine management?

FrancoisP 02-07-2006 11:20 AM

Re: You want turbo ???? you want Power ?? I give you the V12 Twin Turbo BMW M70
 
Here are the 3 very bad ass ECUs and DME I am going to use ...
I have PROM reader, and programmer ...
Those ECU and DME come from a 850Csi, they are very flexible and will adjust easyli to the "gas" required by the turbos.
I am reversing the ASM code in the ECU to delay the ingnition, closer to Top center.

http://www.v12extreme.com/post/ECU850Csi.jpg

FrancoisP O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0


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