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SmellySOHC 03-01-2007 11:36 PM

Re: Wiring 230V CE Mig - laundry room dryer plug.... its all I got! Need Help
 

Originally Posted by burkej62
No you asshat the extra wire is the ground, it was common to run just two hots and a N but now everything is a 4 wire feed, usually. Capping off the white wire and not using it would mean you have 240 volts . Besides the point, your welder is a normal appliance just plug it in anywhere.

how do u figure ?? either caping off the ground or white wire wouldnt matter, that is his welder is three wire and the existing plug is 4 wire.. if he goes the route to installing the 3 wire plug then he gunna have an extra wire... telling him either the ground or white wire can be the extra one.. older devices using 3 wire didnt requre neutral just a ground.... don't asshat me i've been around this ---- for years... maybe i wasnt clear before just from what he said the welder being 3 wire 220

Turblow 03-02-2007 06:07 AM

Re: Wiring 230V CE Mig - laundry room dryer plug.... its all I got! Need Help
 

Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
ive got the same welder on a 30amp circuit, using a 30amp 110v sized horizontal plug. works prefectly fine :)

on a side note, pick up 10-15ft of 12/3 multi strand and throw an extension cord on that ----


You mean I can use some cheap ass plug to get this to work?

Smith-02 03-02-2007 08:33 AM

Re: Wiring 230V CE Mig - laundry room dryer plug.... its all I got! Need Help
 
http://images.orgill.com/200x200/4181855.jpg

220v 30a plug. the welder only draws 23amps if i remember right. standard air compressor (not the big above 5hp ones, smaller ones) come with this style of plug

Turblow 03-02-2007 04:21 PM

Re: Wiring 230V CE Mig - laundry room dryer plug.... its all I got! Need Help
 
My wall doesnt have that style plug for the dryer, Im only plugging this into the wall where my dryer port is

Can I use a washer plug wired up with this welder or not?

Turblow 03-03-2007 06:11 AM

Re: Wiring 230V CE Mig - laundry room dryer plug.... its all I got! Need Help
 
My welder is 23 amps I believe, small
Heres what I just did, I found an old dryer, same plug, so I simply cut it off with a lenght of cord. So now Im left a few wiring connections to make

On the plug
WHITE/RED/BLACK/Un-Coloured unwrapped wire (wasnt wrapped in plastic, no colour I guess

On The welder
White/Black/ Green

My first choice, is white to white, black to black and green to red and the loose uncoloured wire from the plug to nothing. But I dont know what Im doing or is something needs to be grounded special at the welder or something

Please inform me guys

THanks

Smith-02 03-03-2007 08:02 AM

Re: Wiring 230V CE Mig - laundry room dryer plug.... its all I got! Need Help
 

Originally Posted by burkej62


You just proved yourself wrong cock smack . 14 gauge = 15 amps, im no genius but 15 < 23



It pulls 23 amps, thats defiantely not ------- 14 gauge so bend the ---- over and take it like a man 14 is good for 15 amps , which work would for the specs that were listed, but if you had a ------- brain you would see we all ready came to the idea those were the WRONG specs! It's a 230 volt , 30 amp machine. And it is most likley a 4 wired feed , you just dont see the 4 wire because the ground go right to frame ! Any extension cord at all would at least need to be 10 gauge wire. 12 gauge is rated only for 20 amps . Go get a damn dryer plug all ready as has been mentioned. just find whatever fits your receptacle .




Go ahed argue i can list the ------- NEC article for ya too



Originally Posted by Harbor Freight product subscription
nput: 230V, 60 Hz, single phase; Welding current range: 30-120 amps; Duty cycle: 15% @ 115 amps; Draws 15 amps @ 230V; Max. open circuit voltage: 36V; Weldable wires: .023", .030", and .035 steel or stainless steel; .030" and .035" aluminum; .030" flux core

gee fucktard,


Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
---- off twatcrust, the welder comes with 14ga STANDARD

you fail at flexing your e-penis more than buk fails at life

Dr.Boost 03-03-2007 11:05 AM

Re: Wiring 230V CE Mig - laundry room dryer plug.... its all I got! Need Help
 

Originally Posted by Turblow
My first choice, is white to white, black to black and green to red and the loose uncoloured wire from the plug to nothing. But I dont know what Im doing or is something needs to be grounded special at the welder or something

Please inform me guys

THanks

If it is infact a 220v welder, you will use black to black, RED from cord to WHITE on welder and bare, uncolored wire goes to the GREEN.

Also, if the welder DRAWS 15amps it is NOT to be run on a 15amp circuit. 20amp at the least, but it seems nobody knows the god damn specs on this ------- thing. ::)
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Turblow 03-03-2007 12:00 PM

Re: Wiring 230V CE Mig - laundry room dryer plug.... its all I got! Need Help
 
Ive had a few diferent opinions on how to wire it

It is definetely 230v, and its going to be run on a 30amp breaker I blieve


Turblow 03-03-2007 12:37 PM

Re: Wiring 230V CE Mig - laundry room dryer plug.... its all I got! Need Help
 

Originally Posted by burkej62
All right then get your self a damn dryer cord all ready ! If it's on a 30 amp breaker it has to be wired with 10 guage wire . The NEC dictates that everything must be of equal ampacity , to do otherwise would be illegal and a fire hazard. All you have to do is get a freakiing dryer cord. Unless this is a pure 240 volt machine it will need a neatrel docotor boost.

Look on the welder where the wire attaches there should be a red , black , white and then a green ground screw somewhere . Find the cord that matches your outlet and your good to go .

Im guessing you didnt read what I wrote about 6 posts up, I got a dryer cord.......

"My welder is 23 amps I believe, small
Heres what I just did, I found an old dryer, same plug, so I simply cut it off with a lenght of cord. So now Im left a few wiring connections to make

On the plug
WHITE/RED/BLACK/Un-Coloured unwrapped wire (wasnt wrapped in plastic, no colour I guess

On The welder
White/Black/ Green

My first choice, is white to white, black to black and green to red and the loose uncoloured wire from the plug to nothing. But I dont know what Im doing or is something needs to be grounded special at the welder or something

Please inform me guys

THanks"

Dr.Boost 03-03-2007 12:55 PM

Re: Wiring 230V CE Mig - laundry room dryer plug.... its all I got! Need Help
 
He said the welder didnt have a red wire and it has a black, white and a ground so if its 220v those 2 colored wires will be hots and the bare is obviously the ground. ive never seen so much hasstle and confusion over hooking up a welder.
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