WAR
03-19-2003, 09:50 PM
#21
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Nah, with the technology we have, we should be able to atleast get a good idea where he is at (1 mile region) and use one of those trick small nukes, and just take him out. Sure theirs a few casualities, but atleast it would be overwith. 
03-19-2003, 10:48 PM
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The problem is we have too many people here that aren't really Americans. 9/11 happened because we are so free that virtually anyone can pass our borders. Close the flud gates.
I think its funny that all the anti-war celebrities called and wanted to enter their stupid awards show on Sunday through the back door because they are scared of terrorists, yet they oppose the war on terrorism? Fucken Idiots?
We are America and we don't ---- around. We are the strongest because of that. Nobody wants war, but if your an anti-war ----- that would watch your mother get raped and not do a damn thing about it, than move to france.
Served in the Air Force
Just think, we're so free that even Cdtrix can express his fucked up views.
Support your country wether you agree with them or not, otherwise, hide in your house and don't show your cowerdly face.
I think its funny that all the anti-war celebrities called and wanted to enter their stupid awards show on Sunday through the back door because they are scared of terrorists, yet they oppose the war on terrorism? Fucken Idiots?
We are America and we don't ---- around. We are the strongest because of that. Nobody wants war, but if your an anti-war ----- that would watch your mother get raped and not do a damn thing about it, than move to france.
Served in the Air Force
Just think, we're so free that even Cdtrix can express his fucked up views.
Support your country wether you agree with them or not, otherwise, hide in your house and don't show your cowerdly face.
03-19-2003, 11:15 PM
#23
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Bombs over Baghdad......Damn this war is getting crazy...A handful of explosions rocked Baghdad at dawn on March 20, 2003 as jets roared overhead, Iraqi anti-aircraft batteries opened up and air raid sirens sounded
Just got off work to come home to this....I hope that ****** *** bitch was in that bunker they shot at..
I heard some of the lower iraq troops gave in the white flag..But it maybe a false rumor.
03-19-2003, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CdTriX
BIN LADEN is trying to unite the islamic people into fighting against the western civilizations... HE does not like saddam because saddam kills the islams...
Bin Laden is trying to unite the Islamic people to fight the western civilization for what?? To return to a pre-industrial state when Islam was at it's peak? Where everyone rides a camel and ***** goats?? Where women have to totally cover themselves in public even in 120deg desert heat? Not to mention it's practically the law to oppress and treat women like dogs and as mere property. You say Saddam kills his own people and that's ok too? You must be french huh?
03-20-2003, 03:45 AM
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'9/11 happened because we are so free that virtually anyone can pass our borders?' Think again, 9/11 happened because your government can't stick to minding their own business. In every foreign confict the US has to have a fat finger stuck in to it, trying to get something out of it for themselfs. What does your government say; 'Who is not with us is agains us'. And if you don't cooperate you'll get economic sanctions. Tell me who is the oppressor?
Besides that, the US has signed an agreement to stick with the decisions made by the UN, but they just totally ignore that and go act on their own. Guess that will help the peace within the international community...
Then that speach Bush made a few days ago, telling that every Iraqi that fights against the US during the upcomming war will run the risk to be judged by the international criminal court. Well that's the same court your government does not recognise!!! Talk about being a hypocrit.
No this war is only about getting rid of a bad regime... just so happens to be in the second largest oil producing country in the world.... North Korea guess that regime is ok, no oil there.
And i read that you guys are paying $1.88 a gallon... pff those are really bad prices... We pay $1.27 for 0.26 gallon...
Well, needed to get that out of my system, just that you know how someone from a foreign country thinks about your sweet little war.
Just hope it will be over soon and there will be few casualties on both sides.
Pieter
Think again, 9/11 happened because your government can't stick to minding their own business. In every foreign confict the US has to have a fat finger stuck in to it, trying to get something out of it for themselfs. What does your government say; 'Who is not with us is agains us'. And if you don't cooperate you'll get economic sanctions. Tell me who is the oppressor?Besides that, the US has signed an agreement to stick with the decisions made by the UN, but they just totally ignore that and go act on their own. Guess that will help the peace within the international community...
Then that speach Bush made a few days ago, telling that every Iraqi that fights against the US during the upcomming war will run the risk to be judged by the international criminal court. Well that's the same court your government does not recognise!!! Talk about being a hypocrit.
No this war is only about getting rid of a bad regime... just so happens to be in the second largest oil producing country in the world.... North Korea guess that regime is ok, no oil there.
And i read that you guys are paying $1.88 a gallon... pff those are really bad prices... We pay $1.27 for 0.26 gallon...
Well, needed to get that out of my system, just that you know how someone from a foreign country thinks about your sweet little war.
Just hope it will be over soon and there will be few casualties on both sides.
Pieter
03-20-2003, 11:35 AM
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as far as gas goes... we in california are getting the royal screw job.. I pay 2.28 for premium.
As far as my politics go, I am a punk, so i hate the govermnent in general, but sometimes you have to agree with them, even if you dont like their policies.
Sadam is a loose cannon. We need to take him out before he has a chance to do something stupid. Look at hitler. same ----... loose cannon, but that ---- got out of hand. Dont let history repeat itself. And those who say were doing this just for oil... well we'll see about that once this is over.
I would agree that this action is making the US seem like were a big bully or something. So we better prepare for some sort of retaliation from those so called terrorist regimes.
But ---- it, ---- it all whatever happens happens
just remember this "Freedom isnt free"
As far as my politics go, I am a punk, so i hate the govermnent in general, but sometimes you have to agree with them, even if you dont like their policies.
Sadam is a loose cannon. We need to take him out before he has a chance to do something stupid. Look at hitler. same ----... loose cannon, but that ---- got out of hand. Dont let history repeat itself. And those who say were doing this just for oil... well we'll see about that once this is over.
I would agree that this action is making the US seem like were a big bully or something. So we better prepare for some sort of retaliation from those so called terrorist regimes.
But ---- it, ---- it all whatever happens happens
just remember this "Freedom isnt free"
03-20-2003, 11:48 AM
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Ok, I heard this morning that Egypt, Turkey and a few other countries said go and blow the hell out of Iraq. By the sounds of it, they would be willing to help. But, like really, this is a bunch of B.S ! Sure I live in Canada and this stuff is far away, but those 40 missles were reported to be felt here. I just dont want no b/s now
( pay me money and ill take out Saddam )
I just dont want no b/s now ( pay me money and ill take out Saddam
)
03-20-2003, 01:06 PM
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>>USA did not liberate FRANCE from the axis powers....
do your research ( note: not american published ) and maybe pay attention in a history class or 2.. really...
So we fought Germans away from France means nothing right? How you think Marines got the name "devildog" from? German whom we fought them to keep them away from France gave it to us (battle of some french name). What about vietnam war? who's war was it first? and how did we end up fighting the vietcons? Yes, french are cowers.
I was a Marine for 6 years and I read/study enough about wars and civilizations.
>>the thing is.. BUSH is a religious war mongering greedy bastard... he's a born again christian, hating on saddam cause he tried to kill his dad, AND wants iraq for oil..
You're partially right. He want to be a war hero, but this is one of the war we can't avoid. Sadaam is one crazy SOB that he wants to take over the whole middle east. When Iraq lost the battle back in 92. They signed a treaty where they were not allow to have any mass-destructive weapons (like what Japan signed). However, they continue to make those weapons and give UN inspectors problem every year when they want to go inspect those weapons. Hmmm..i would think he's cooking something.
And uh..Bush is not a bad president, but he's a very bad talker. You see..a president is like a salesman. You have to talk your *** out to sell stuff to the people even tho. the stuff might be the worst crap ever. Cliton could do it because he knows how to use his words to calm people down.
>>You know WHY BUSH wants IRAQ? like all strong powers.. they rely on resources, once all the oil in the states have been extracted ( give or take 8-10 years ) the US will have nothing left... in order to KEEP the POWER and the military and the money, The americans MUST get IRAQ b4 the chinese or the russians get to it... it is a BIG strategic move.. IF the americans DO get Iraq then the USA would maintain it's WORLD POWERS... therefore justifying meddling into other peoples business like always
That's where you didn't do your homework my friend. We main source of oil are from south american and not middle east. Only 20% are from there. Kuwaitt and Saudi Arabia can supply us more oil than Iraq can ever supply us and what makes you think we want to go there and take over their oil?
>>SADDAM HAS NO RELATIONSHIP WITH AL`QUEDA or OSAMA BIN LADEN!!!!!!!! SADDAM kills his people... doesn't matter what religion or whatever they are HE WILL KILL THEM... WHICH is opposite of what BIN lADEN is trying to do...
Maybe not him, but there are main source stating that a chunk amount of money was wired from Iraq to Al Quaida. Hmm...I wonder what that money is for.
>>BIN LADEN is trying to unite the islamic people into fighting against the western civilizations... HE does not like saddam because saddam kills the islams...
Sadaam is a dictator. He wants to take over the whole middle east. It's a known fact.
>>what i fear the most is the lost of lives... everyone wants war.. everyone is a patriot... everyone is a bandwagon jumper... once the first soldier is killed... what now... a soldier died for WHO'S freedom? NOT the AMERICANS, NOT THE IRAQ PEOPLE, but for what? OIL? Everyone thinks it's gonna be a 2 hour war where all the bad guys die and the good guys provail... WRONG women and children will die during the bombing, American soldiers will die, Parents will grieve and then you realize... WAR is WRONG....
The hardest and sadest thing to do in war is to kill all the innocent people. However, innocent people are the one that get US soldiers killed. The rule of engagement that we follow stated that we cannot fight are the enemy unless they fire at us first. Because of that, thousands of soldiers were killed just so follow that rule to prevent killing innocent people. Like vietnam.
>>anyone that is PRO WAR are not a soldier, you do not have to put yourselves on the line for the supposed "FREEDOM" of your country, you are not overseas, you are not holding a rifle, you are not there... THINK about those that ARE going to war for YOUR country... thousands of men marching along the desert fighting for their country, as easily as a warm knife is cut through butter... a life can easily be taken.. please think b4 you want a war... because your not there doesn't mean you shouldn't care about those that are
War sucks, but sometimes it's unavoidable. It's like you fighting someone. It sucks but sometimes you have to do it when the other person is already swing punches at you.
You can paper or word talk all you want, but unless you have experience in the real battlefield and places that thousand lifes were taken away in a drop of a dime. You know NOTHING.
do your research ( note: not american published ) and maybe pay attention in a history class or 2.. really...
So we fought Germans away from France means nothing right? How you think Marines got the name "devildog" from? German whom we fought them to keep them away from France gave it to us (battle of some french name). What about vietnam war? who's war was it first? and how did we end up fighting the vietcons? Yes, french are cowers.
I was a Marine for 6 years and I read/study enough about wars and civilizations.
>>the thing is.. BUSH is a religious war mongering greedy bastard... he's a born again christian, hating on saddam cause he tried to kill his dad, AND wants iraq for oil..
You're partially right. He want to be a war hero, but this is one of the war we can't avoid. Sadaam is one crazy SOB that he wants to take over the whole middle east. When Iraq lost the battle back in 92. They signed a treaty where they were not allow to have any mass-destructive weapons (like what Japan signed). However, they continue to make those weapons and give UN inspectors problem every year when they want to go inspect those weapons. Hmmm..i would think he's cooking something.
And uh..Bush is not a bad president, but he's a very bad talker. You see..a president is like a salesman. You have to talk your *** out to sell stuff to the people even tho. the stuff might be the worst crap ever. Cliton could do it because he knows how to use his words to calm people down.
>>You know WHY BUSH wants IRAQ? like all strong powers.. they rely on resources, once all the oil in the states have been extracted ( give or take 8-10 years ) the US will have nothing left... in order to KEEP the POWER and the military and the money, The americans MUST get IRAQ b4 the chinese or the russians get to it... it is a BIG strategic move.. IF the americans DO get Iraq then the USA would maintain it's WORLD POWERS... therefore justifying meddling into other peoples business like always
That's where you didn't do your homework my friend. We main source of oil are from south american and not middle east. Only 20% are from there. Kuwaitt and Saudi Arabia can supply us more oil than Iraq can ever supply us and what makes you think we want to go there and take over their oil?
>>SADDAM HAS NO RELATIONSHIP WITH AL`QUEDA or OSAMA BIN LADEN!!!!!!!! SADDAM kills his people... doesn't matter what religion or whatever they are HE WILL KILL THEM... WHICH is opposite of what BIN lADEN is trying to do...
Maybe not him, but there are main source stating that a chunk amount of money was wired from Iraq to Al Quaida. Hmm...I wonder what that money is for.
>>BIN LADEN is trying to unite the islamic people into fighting against the western civilizations... HE does not like saddam because saddam kills the islams...
Sadaam is a dictator. He wants to take over the whole middle east. It's a known fact.
>>what i fear the most is the lost of lives... everyone wants war.. everyone is a patriot... everyone is a bandwagon jumper... once the first soldier is killed... what now... a soldier died for WHO'S freedom? NOT the AMERICANS, NOT THE IRAQ PEOPLE, but for what? OIL? Everyone thinks it's gonna be a 2 hour war where all the bad guys die and the good guys provail... WRONG women and children will die during the bombing, American soldiers will die, Parents will grieve and then you realize... WAR is WRONG....
The hardest and sadest thing to do in war is to kill all the innocent people. However, innocent people are the one that get US soldiers killed. The rule of engagement that we follow stated that we cannot fight are the enemy unless they fire at us first. Because of that, thousands of soldiers were killed just so follow that rule to prevent killing innocent people. Like vietnam.
>>anyone that is PRO WAR are not a soldier, you do not have to put yourselves on the line for the supposed "FREEDOM" of your country, you are not overseas, you are not holding a rifle, you are not there... THINK about those that ARE going to war for YOUR country... thousands of men marching along the desert fighting for their country, as easily as a warm knife is cut through butter... a life can easily be taken.. please think b4 you want a war... because your not there doesn't mean you shouldn't care about those that are
War sucks, but sometimes it's unavoidable. It's like you fighting someone. It sucks but sometimes you have to do it when the other person is already swing punches at you.
You can paper or word talk all you want, but unless you have experience in the real battlefield and places that thousand lifes were taken away in a drop of a dime. You know NOTHING.
03-20-2003, 03:18 PM
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And i read that you guys are paying $1.88 a gallon... pff those are really bad prices... We pay $1.27 for 0.26 gallon...
gas is acually cheaper in europe. except that your socialist government taxes it so much.
in regards to punk, i'm by no means a punk, i think punks are fruitcakes. but i'm a libertarian. and i do not like government either. but the consititution of the united states in the base for our government. and fighting wars and protecting our nation is one of the expressed duties of the federal government. but unfortunatly the government has grown out of control. and now trys to control our everyday lives.
thanks to liberals
if you really want to protest your government, vote for people who will shrink the size of it. and buy a gun so when the U.N. & willing liberals in control come to take them you will be ready.
