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SDRAWKCAB 08-30-2008 03:03 AM

Re: Write up on vac pump NWS (o)(o)
 

Originally Posted by PhilStubbs
a lot of the power made from vacuum pumps is from running very loose piston rings to reduce friction. if your engine is not built for this you wont see the gains you should. im sure it will help some cause if there is pressure in the case then the pistons have to move down through that and you should also have a cleaner engine since you shouldnt get leaks as easy.

BTW, nice recycled porn

Like you said they help make HP on slop motors.
They are also good for motors with worn out rings.

Racers have been using vac pumps for years.
I just couldn't find it within my means to buy a 500+ dollar kit.

Scott-EP 08-30-2008 09:07 AM

Re: FUCK YO CATCHCAN NWS (o)(o)
 
i didnt mean worn out engines, i meant running rings that dont push on the cylinder walls as hard

dmotoguy 08-30-2008 12:30 PM

Re: Write up on vac pump NWS (o)(o)
 

Originally Posted by SDRAWKCAB
Really?

Considering Iv read a couple of articles about using the same exact summit pump on grandnationals and t types and Reduced blow by, greatly or completely.


its pretty simple to test.. hook up a boost gauge to the line that goes to the top of the catch can.. the one that screws into the crank case.... it will tell the story..

this will reduce blow by, probably all the way on a motor up to 400hp or so.. but so would a cheaper and simpler catch can... on a big hp motor 700hp + it wouldnt stand a chance...

SDRAWKCAB 08-30-2008 01:21 PM

Re: Write up on vac pump NWS (o)(o)
 

Originally Posted by dmotoguy
its pretty simple to test.. hook up a boost gauge to the line that goes to the top of the catch can.. the one that screws into the crank case.... it will tell the story..

this will reduce blow by, probably all the way on a motor up to 400hp or so.. but so would a cheaper and simpler catch can... on a big hp motor 700hp + it wouldnt stand a chance...

Catch cans don't make vacuum. That is the point your missing.
Vac in the crank case keeps the rings in the walls.
Thats why when you break in a motor you do high vac pulls.

BTW as for the cheaper comment you could go to the junk yard and buy a used pump for 15 bucks and run it to a on off switch. Then just turn it on when your going to do a run.

dmotoguy 08-30-2008 02:07 PM

Re: FUCK YO CATCHCAN NWS (o)(o)
 

Originally Posted by SDRAWKCAB
Catch cans don't make vacuum. That is the point your missing.
Vac in the crank case keeps the rings in the walls.
Thats why when you break in a motor you do high vac pulls.

BTW as for the cheaper comment you could go to the junk yard and buy a used pump for 15 bucks and run it to a on off switch. Then just turn it on when your going to do a run.

This topic has been researched, hypothesized, and tested... over and over again...
Correct, Catch cans do not make vacuum, but either does your vacuum pump on a high boost, big tolerance motor.
Yes Vac in the crank case is good... just not acheavable on a 700+hp motor like we've mentioned. your idea is great for 95%+ of the cars on here... as long as the pump doesnt pull too much vacuum...

cheaper, not really... either can be made very cheap or very expensive... one has no moving parts or wiring though.. .and I like that.

SDRAWKCAB 08-30-2008 02:25 PM

Re: FUCK YO CATCHCAN NWS (o)(o)
 

Originally Posted by dmotoguy
your idea is great for 95%+ of the cars on here... as long as the pump doesnt pull too much vacuum...


Originally Posted by dmotoguy
just not acheavable on a 700+hp motor like we've mentioned.

I never mentioned 700hp did I? Do you have more then one person in your head?

widebody93 08-30-2008 05:15 PM

Re: FUCK YO CATCHCAN NWS (o)(o)
 
Sweet write up. I like this method

SDRAWKCAB 08-31-2008 06:42 PM

Re: FUCK YO CATCHCAN NWS (o)(o)
 
After reading more im defiantly going to put another PCV between the pump and the first PCV.
I read that the PCV controls the amount of vac you can pull from the crank case. So it needs to be there.

MustangC. 08-31-2008 11:04 PM

Re: FUCK YO CATCHCAN NWS (o)(o)
 
saturn cars have smog pumps that work well and are abundant also.


whoever said only sloppy motors will benefit from this has no idea what they are talking about. EVERY boosted motor, even the best built have plenty of blowby that can benefit from this, especially high boost motors.

SDRAWKCAB 08-31-2008 11:18 PM

Re: FUCK YO CATCHCAN NWS (o)(o)
 

Originally Posted by CoreyR
saturn cars have smog pumps that work well and are abundant also.


whoever said only sloppy motors will benefit from this has no idea what they are talking about. EVERY boosted motor, even the best built have plenty of blowby that can benefit from this, especially high boost motors.

Thats why I did this wright up.
Im using this system for my vitara build.


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