Two HEFTY Speeding Tickets Within 20min. My story, My Case, My Plea, Advise Me
 

Im just gonna type endlessly here because I probably just fucked myself over soooo much and it hasnt hit me yet.
Heres the story.

So I get off work @ 1:30am, little pissed off that a co-worker Im seeing wants to patch things up with her husband and may stop seeing me. So I decide to go for a drive, I jump in my newly bought (today) 91 Ranger V6 3.0 5spd and just go ------- straight. Roads are straight as hell, highbeams light everything up and I start to give some gears, start pulling into town with a few scatterred stores 5th gear @ 4500rpm, boom it catches my eye, a patrol car sitting behind a large sign on the opposite side and Im the only one on the road and Im not going slow, ----!!! downshift to third and hard on the brakes, engine revs screaming and I didnt care if he pulled me over just as long as he didnt clock me going as fast as I want, got my speed down to the limit as I was parrallel to him but the fucker was watching, he flies out, lights blasting the dark night and jumps on my ass within a 1/2 second, Im fucked and I know it, my virgin ticket is going to be rough. I pull over fast and into a gas station

The cop (J.Coron) gets out immediately and walks up to my window flashing the light in my eyes, I roll down the window and say "Hello officer" and hes pissed.

"Son do you know how fast I clocked you at? Do you want to go to jail?"

"I was cruising at a little under 100, just got off work and needed a drive"

"How does 146km in an 80km posted zone sound? Have you ever gotten a ticket before"

(I hand him my registration, insurance, liscnse and the ----)

"Never gotten a ticket, driving for a year and I just bought this truck today and lost my girl, dont think I was going that fast though"

"Ok no prior tickets, give me a few minutes dummy" (he literally said dummy)

I jump on the phone and start freaking out to a friend asking some questions, cop comes back so I just hang up

"Kevin, since youve got no prior tickets, G2 linscense and I know how much the insurance would be all over you and the road was clear I gave you a little reduction and I havent done this big of one in a while"

He gives me a 2 min warning on insruance rates and how I couldnt even get insurance if he ticketed me and he says

"I reduced it to a 95 in an 80 posted zone, no points $50 fine"

"OMG! thanks so much, I just needed to drive and dont know how I got that fast, have a great night"



So I just got my first ticket and I pull into the gas station parking lot and just think, I call cathy and tell her what happened, she calls me stupid and ---- and my phone dies out, ----. I start on my way home going back the same direction I came back from because this 30km stretch I just hit was long enough

Now me being 18 and ------- retarded what would you do? You jsut got pulled over @ 1:55am and that was the only cop you seen, its now 2:05. There definetely wont be another cop posted already right and John is still sitting in the parking lot.

------- GIVE HER HOME!!!!!!

I swear Im the dumbest ---- on the road but I thought for sure there was no cops and the radar detector was still in the crx so I just assumed. I was going not as fast as last time but cruising for about 10kms at around 120 in an 80, not a car in sight, dont think I seen one going my direction. Im not in town going down HWY 25 where it crosses Bronte St. I know cops are up here close on Ontario so I slow down to the posted 50 fomr the 80 I was just cruising at, enver seen a cop right.

I pull up to the Ontario/Laurier intersection and stop, full stop and theres now an 01-03 Silver civic behind me, light turns green and I go, a white car comes at a pretty quick rate out of knowwhere form behind the civic and pulls beside it, ahead of it and behind me.

Its a cop, Im going 50, its a 50 zone and Im in the right side lane, "pull me over bitch, try me"

Lights n sirens, OMG WTF

Same reaction as the last cop, Immediately jumps out of the car I think because Im searching the glovebox for the ---- I just put away, window still rolled down from 15 min ago

"Hello officer, is there a problem?"

"Ive got you on radar 114 in an 80 zone"

"Sir, I was literally just pulled over 10 minutes ago and Ive been going the speed limit the whole time since"

"Pass me your information please" (in my hands),

He checks it out and asks for the other ticket, looks it over and says youve got to slow down man

"Where abouts do you think I was going 114, just so I know, this is a 50 zone, 80 zone was way back on the mountain"

Heres where he clusterfucked me, he throws my ---- back on my lap, I think hes letting me free since I wa sjust pulled over and seem like a nice kid right. He starts walking back to his car and I was about to start the car and said

"Have a nice night, thaanks a lot"

"One sec kid, Im going to check the plate first" (10 day temp on the front window, he definetely didnt see it)

I start assembling the ---- on my lap and something is missing, ----, hes got my drivers linsecse? Or did the first cop not give it back

He steps out like 5 minutes later, papers in hand.

----

I punched the center console, he walks up and I say

"Seriously another ticket?"

"You were speeding, I have to, but I reduced it for you I cut it to 109" (still 29 over)

Hands me the ticket and I just throw it on the floor without looking at it, pissed as FAWK!!! Im mad and hes alreayd ticketed me

"So were abouts are you saying I was going this fast, because Ive been going the limit the whole way, gotta know your side for court of course"

"Alright here are the 3 options, Im sure the other officer went over them with you, the location is on the ticket, slow down"

He walked back to his car and sped off. I pick up the ticket, turn on the interior and light and read it

'REGIONAL RD 25 SOUTH OF DERRY ROAD'

WTF, Derry itself is already over 1 km away and theres no driveways for another 1km, he was defientely 2-5km back there, was snoozing and just guessed my speed and thats why he took so long to catch up....?

I need some help on what to do though.

The first ticket I know I fucked up and he cut the biggest break ever, Im still pleading non guilty just because I can and Ill need some help on what I can say

The second ticket I think I may win.
1.Took him almost 2+km or MORE past where he said I was speeding and there was a car behind me...
2.He used an X instead of a checkmark on all 3 boxes

Heres a statement I got off a ticket fighting sight about that

"An error so minor as to a "cross" mark was used instead of the required "check" mark in a box will nullify the whole ticket."

But Im just so pissed off, 2 tickets, the second one is @ 2:16 and for 3 points and $138 so Im obviously fighting it because I think Ive got a good case if I can prove to the judge how far away it was that he says I was speeding and that I just got a ticket and would not be thinking of speeding, maybe he clocked the car behind me,. Need help with that one

Anthing you guys need to know, need visuals of let me know. Its 4am now so I dont think anyone is on here

Dont say fess up and just pay, because I know I was speeding, I enjoyed it and it felt good, even liked seeing the flashers deep down. Dont need a pep talk, just how I can severly lower the fines/points or even make them disappear.

Im going to be framing these as well, my first speeding tickets and there for a good bit over and so long together

Over n Out

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I actually read all that and sounds like you're fuxor...........you can try fighting the second one but you can never beat the man

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wow that is fucked. At least you don't have as many points as I do still :-\

just fight it. I dunno what else to say, I have 'fessed' up and paid for every ticket i got and has cost me like $4k in fines and fees and I have only been driving like 3 years. Gay. Buddy of mine fights all his ---- and 5 outta 7 tickets he's gotten off. So just fight it.

Oh and how old is this chick? You are 18 and she's married? WTF?

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The first one was fucked, I mean this truck slowed down so ------- fast with that down shift, was total reaction

That one is only 15 over though, he knocked it by like 60km/h which is amazing and I should have shook his hand

Cat is 28 btw

I just cannot have 2 tickets on my record and I already pay $350/month for the crx and now this truck for liability

I think I got a nice case on the second

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The weirdest thing about the story was you with the married woman. That is hilarious.

I would say try to fight the last ticket. You will get fucked I am sure, but maybe the judge will help ya out a little. Maybe you can plead guilty to a lesser ticket.

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you fucked yourself, not too bright.

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Dumbass ;) :-*, hey ---- happens you have to deal with it, I remember my first ticket also, don't worry it'll get easier to deal with after your 5th or so.
But seriously, try and fight it, see what happens, if it is like in florida, if the cops doesn't show in court on his day off, they usually never do, the ticket gets trown out.

by the way you are young, so don't worry about the women in the story, there's plenty more out there, it's hard first but you'll find something better.

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If they dont show it gets thrown out always?

I just think I have a good chance on the second and the first one maybe plea down to just a very little fine or something since it was ------- 2am, even though he cut me a massive break, will the court know he tacked off a ---- load already?

Dont worry about the girl, shes still "mine", I talked her into it I suppose

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well, if one cop car was behind a sign, thats entrapment. you can get away with that, because he was hiding. thats illegal. and the 2nd one might be entrapment aswell. if i was you i would go to court and fight it.

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excuse me?

Seriously?

Im saying he was on the opposite side of the ride, straight parallel with the road and behind a BIG graveyard sign, like maybe 5 feet to the left, I onyl spotted him because its a 6lane road and the angle let me see his interior light and the lights off of the sign lit him up a bit (the sign was white as well)

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Dont speed and you wont get speeding tickets. O0

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It depends on the place, that's why I said in Florida if the cop doesn't show up in court, you are free.

Also in Florida they can hide behind signs and park in the median with the lights off and it is not considered entrapment.

I know in other states they cannot do that, some places they have to even park with their parking lights on.
and you're in Canada right? different laws in different places, try to talk to a cop up there, be cool about it, most cops are ok to talk to.

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you were speeding, and you know it, and you got a ticket, whats the big deal?
we all get tickets, you just gotta be more smart on the road.
ive gotten a ton of stupid tickets, but for the most part you just gotta suck it up and realize the cop is giving you a break by reducing the ticket and move on.

the only thing i would have done different was ask to see the radar, unless they have the radar to prove it you can't really be ticketed.
pay up, we all do, and learn.

my tickets, 110 in a 90, going through a yellow light, exessive noise from spinning tires, startling another user of the road, and driving without a seatbelt for 3 blocks.

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just say it was entrapment. rthat dude probobly gave 100+ tickets that night

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i know this guy( who has gotten lots and lots of speeding tickets by the way) he told me go 2 court and if the cop shows up good. tell the judge u wanna see some paper i forgot exactly but u wanna see the paper that says the cop was allowed 2 use the radar gun at the time u recieved the ticket. he said that and the judge asked the cop if he had that paper and he said no not with me i have it back at the station. guy said judge dropped the ticket everytime. this is in NY but i just thought i would share that. good luck

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theres some good info, now you gotta call your buddy at work and bother him on what that peper is called

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I have averaged a speeding ticket every 2 1/2 years. :-\
I could be tickected every time I drive :P
Bottom line is if you speed you will get caught every so often, radar detector or no radar detector.
Last ticket I received, I was nailed by Aircraft with ground support.

Drive the speed limit if you don't want to get caught speeding ;)

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but the problem is if all those applies to canada. :-\

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WOT, Go to POINTs of Traffic Cops, ask them(you know those cheesey lawyers for tickets) I have friends do that. The pay a bigger fee up front but you save on insurance in the long run.

A cop can pull you over past where he caught you. Should have ask to see the radar. My dad had it once were the cop insisted on showing him the radar, my dad admitted he was doing 85 in a 50, went the the cop car, as the cop picked up the radar he accidentally cleared. Instant off ticket!! it was F@cking Funny.

I'm not sure the check marks and x thing will work. You now nedd 3 minor errors (street spelling, time(if it's not too off) and ---- like that) in order to qualify.

Go to POINTS, see if they will consult you for free.

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With over 7000 HMT members there must be several members being ticketed on a daily basis :-\

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i didnt know canadian cops had horses. i thought they rode moose's an ----.

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You're ------- stupid, and you obviously have no idea how the laws work. Its not entrapment unless you are provoked.

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Maybe I was, he was mentally telling me to go faster towards the sign

Oh well, hopefully I can just plead not guilty, says what Ive pointed out in this thread

If he doesnt show I get off right?

And if he does maybe they will knock it down or forget it since its my first/second lol

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experiences like this at night have made me chill out at night and drive fast during the day. At night the po pos have nothing else to do

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You're an idiot, straight up. Dont drive anymore.

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You have two SERIOUS problems.

#1 - You admitted to the first of going "just under 100 back there" - NAILED...as soon as you admit, you are done. Usually they give you just under what you admit to in hopes of you pleading not guilty thinking you got away with a favor. Your fucked on the first ticket

#2 - You got two tickets in a matter of 20 mintues...even if the second ticket is bullshit, the judge is going to see TWO cops in the courtroom that day both telling him they caught you speeding...that looks BAD in his eye.

Get a Lawyer...plain and simple. Because you are fighting two tickets at once (are they both the same court date?) you might be able to get the lawyer to reduce his rate. You will save on insurance in the long run and possibly cut the points to 0 for both infractions. You cant afford to start your driving career this way.

Slow down, especially at night when they can hide easier. And of course they can hide...its not entrapment (dumbass whoever said that)

A few more tips for you youngins...

#1 - Whenever you get pulled over, especially at night...always turn on the dome light IMMEDIATELY, roll down your window and put both hands out the window and cross them. Or put the on the steering wheel and cross them so the cop can see them. If you are rummaging in your glove box...who the ---- knows what you are gonna pull out and shoot him with. You want the cop relaxed and easy when he comes to your window. That tip will get you out of most minor infractions and speeding violations, 9 outta 10 times.

#2 - NEVER admit you did anything wrong, be confident in your response when he asks a question. "Do you know how fast you were going?" ANSWER - "Sir, I was going the speed limit. I know because when I saw you on the side of the road, I instinctually looked at my speedometer and I saw I was going X mph." If you were going some ridiculously higher amount over the limit dont say that, just say I dont know.

#3 - Have ALL your documents ready in the glove box. When he asks for them, ASK him if you can reach in the glove box, easily pull them out and hand them to him in one stroke. Why this is good? He sees you are organized, cop respects you more...you are efficient and you are wasting less of his time.

...there is more but you get the picture.

BTW, I have no points on my license and my insurance in NJ (highest rates in the country) is $1200 a year for two cars. :)

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Thanks for typing that Chris

I was just told by a few people I may get off on them by technicality

The X's instead of checks are apparently all it takes to void a ticket, so boom there goes the 109 - 80

And the second one he forget to fill out a Code box where the other ticket had an R in it but I havent found out what that means

Ill be prepared, I just needed to chill and got caught in a bad state of mind

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Ah you believed it :). I got a ticket street racing you know what the speed was 35 mph+ ya thats right what was my fine 650 and 2 points on my record for 7 years. Doesnt matter how the ticket was filled out unless its just a mess. If its anything like the states its being processed into actual data the paper ticket is for your own personal knowing you fucked up. good luck but you were speeding. I have my share of tickets 5 acatually there is only one way to get out of them dont speed. WOT if I was the cop I would of given you a dui ;D

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You do realize that they do have the information of what you should have been ticketed for. They have given you a break and fighting those tickets is like a slap in the face to them. You aren't going to get another break in court, you could actually hurt yourself. My friend got a break and tried to fight it and ended up getting the original fine and points. Your little X in the check boxes theory is no good either.

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Seriously? the court will know that I was actually going WAY fasted than what was ticketed for?

That will hurt me or sure because he dropped it ALOT for the first one

The second one I can get off on though and apparently the first one a few people have said because the code box is left blank itll be chucked as well

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That whole check mark thing is hilarious. Everyone talks about them as if they were a golden loophole.

I would suggest moving the dates to at least a week apart. Most times you are allowed one reschedule so long as you request it in writing at least a week or two b4 the date. Just call the court administration, they are actually very organized and helpfull.

make them somewhat close so that the first ticket has not been processed until the court date for the second is over.

I am not really sure about the actual speed being recorded. I have been cut a break on almost every ticket that I have contested, and I have never heard anything about it. It may just have been a chance thing that the officer noted the actual speed in the report.

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i have gotten a ton of tickets in the past. i had 14 points on my liscense at one point (only 1 point away from losing it). i've paid and i've fought, never lost in court because the cops never showed up except for one and he didn't even go to the bench- it was dropped before i even went before the judge.

don't be a ------- retard, pay the first ticket. that cop is giving you a huge break. if you take that to court he will prove you were going way faster and you will be completely fucked by the judge, as mentioned earlier, you would probably end up with having to pay more, or even losing your liscense completely (50kph over is all you need to be to lose it -reckless driving).

the code box: if it has a "R" in it, that means the ticket has been reduced. if the R is in there, then there isn't much point in fighting it. if the R is missing, fight it. even if you don't get off entirely, you can get a reduction in the fine.

call xcopper or something like that, they will consult you over the phone briefly and should be able to give you an idea if it is worth fighting or not.

the "x" theory: i don't think this will stand at all. i think that is complete horse ----. i've also heard of stories like if the cop wasn't wearing his hat you could fight the ticket based upon the fact he wasn't in uniform when he gave you the ticket. who believes this ----? i'd never fight a ticket based on that, you gotta pull your head outta your ass if you think an x instead of a check is going to get you out of a ticket.

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WOT head is up his ass so he believes it :)

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lol man you fucked up and got caught... sorry but after getting pulled over once you should have known better.

The "An error so minor as to a "cross" mark was used instead of the required "check" mark in a box will nullify the whole ticket." is down right silly too. WHo cares if its a check mark or an X if its filling in a box.

I dont know how it is where you live but here in FL if you get busted for speeding they can either 1) give you a speeding ticket (full cost) or 2) give you a "violation of traffic control device" ticket (cheaper). USUALLY regardless of what you get written for they put the actual and posted speeds on the ticket so the Hearing Officer (Judge) sees that you were speeding but got cut a break.
Usually speeding ticket fights are won (by defendant) only if the officer doesnt show, or he doesnt have his required certification paperwork.

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Did I mention I ghad sex with my co-worker last night for the first time in the new truck?

ANyways, Im going to be fighting them both and maybe even taking them to trafix retired cop place

Whatever happens, happens. Hopefully they dont show up

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Good for you ::)

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Pay the first one, fight the second one.

That way you can say you were going the speed limit because you just got pulled over for the first time like 15 mins ago and there was absolutely positively no way you were speeding because you were religiously following the speed limit. That aliby along with the cop finally pulled you over like 1km or whatever it was from where he clocked you, and the fact that you never saw the radar proving that you were going faster than what you should have been could possibly be enough to have the ticket thrown out.

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Dont know how it is in Canada but in FL they dont have to show you any damn radar at the stop.

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Do you own a fast car? God i hope not ::)

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Start a new thread about fuckn' the milf, but only if you have pics.

I would try to get the second ticket heard first. That way if you make off easy on that one you can just plead guilty to the second. If they screw ya on the second ticket, then you can press your luck and fight the first one you got.