Traction bars...Brands/opinions/experience
 

Im looking around for traction bars and i've got it narrowed down to these two...
there is a little price difference...but mainly Im wondering if anyone sees anything wrong with the skinnykidfab ----

http://store.lsdmotorsports.com/merc...ore_Code=LSD01

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TRACT...QQcmdZViewItem

any suggestions?

btw, their for my eg coupe if anyone cares

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I have the LSD traction bars on my CRX and I havent had any problems with them. No wheel hop with slicks or drag radials. At the track i got 1.7 60'

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You know that LSD has great customer service. I would go with the LSD due to their reputation.

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don't know how handy you are but there was a write up on HMT on how to make your own....that's what i'm going to try....and on a side note did any one make on for a early 90's hatch yet?(would have called it a ef.....but didn't want to catch ---- from the chassis nazis.. :D).....i know there was talk of it, just never saw or heard anything after that

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the ones on mikes site are jk motorsport traction bars, and from what ive heard they are better than full race, plus less expensive, jk and mike are part of hmt, and mikes cust svc is unbelieveable!! so it should be an easy choice

http://store.lsdmotorsports.com/merc...ore_Code=LSD01

88-91 civic/ crx

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In what aspect would they be "better" than full-race. I've heard nothing but good about the Jk bars from Mike, that statement just didn't make sense to me.

I'm still partial to the old LCon bars that I used to sell. Round chromoly tubing, powdercoated with aluminum radius rods and chromoly heim joints, but Mikey Mike at LSD is a good friend, so you should buy from him. :6

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lcon, that just reminds me, what the hell happened to Dru with 2 dots on the u? Oh yeah, he moved out the hood and into the H-T hills

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Ask Noel what happend to his JK bars and the damage that insued.....

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Come on tell tell.I have some JK bars and they were a ealry production unit so they were a little rough as in the rad brackets were crooked etc.I think the newer ones are better and I would still recommend.That being said FullRace > JK that should be a given though as one cost twice as much as the other.

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I talked to him yesterday. He's busy putting geeky computers into his acura RL. He claims he doesn't go on any forums anymore.

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ive got some Full-Race traction bars (painted flat black, of course) and i like them, havent felt any wheel hop at all. it just spins are or hooks up...

interesting note though... Firestone alignment tech: "...also your 'aftermarket caster' pieces are at there full adjustment..." ??? i kinda find that as odd (noticed it when i put them on too) seeings how they have like 2inchs of thread on the rod ends, and there is only like 2 threads on every rod left...

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think you should check that again $350 off there website... sure you can find them cheaper on HT in the sponsors forum...

and for those who cant click on the JK link above those are $267

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sorry stealthy....i meant they were better in regards to the information that shortly followed that statement

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Noel can tell his story if he wants. I suggest Mike at LSD contacts Noel ASAP and reconsiders his position. If my car sustained that much damage I would be looking for a little more than an invoice for another $35 for a retrofit kit!

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Im sure when i got mine it said for off road use/their not reliable for any damage. What did Noels body kit get damaged ::)

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Sorry I was referring to the EF chassis of which Full Race are $450.The next set I buy will def be Full Race though.

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yeah...i thought about that after i posted...the EF/CRX kit is outragesly priced...

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details? i dont know who Noel is....

im running the JKmotorsports one, few things i dont like with it but overall i thought it was pretty decent. id hope that it would hold up to 300hp that im going to throw at it in the spring :-\

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I have a set of the original LCON bars. The design sucks. I told him that the tow hook needs to be moved to prevent pavement dig up and the rods need wrench flats in them. Then he started a whole new design that was really nice.

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my FR bars hit speed bumps and scrape the street/sideways when pulling into my apartment and shopping centers... those fuckbags...why then need some crazy ass 15* incline on the sidewalks... :7

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just ------- spit it out b/c i got some JK traction bars for my crx and i wanna know wtf am i in for ???

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all i'm saying right now is.. when it comes to a crx, where the bars MUST be right for drivability reasons and to ensure the safety of you and your car. buy the best, i wish i had.

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Whats to hide? did something come loose or break?

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enough beating around the bush, put it out there

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haha trying to keep your name clean ?? :-*

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quit beating around the bush and tell what exactly happened...

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Without a doubt it's our Polack version of the Hulk.

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Another 11 yr old ethug making false claims of hotrex customer service. What a great addition you are to HMT pimples. The truth is noel (crx2fast) bought a set of jk motorsports traction bars from us. They were one of the earlier designed bars that consisted of one bracket bolt to the lca and less then grade 8 bolts. Nobody tried to charge noel $35 to retro rig the "Shitty bars" Noel pmd me here and said something went wrong on his bars, he wasnt sure what. Then as a few more pms were exchanged he said it appeared a bolt and a heim joint had broken. I offered to replace them free of charge of course but noel was aware that JK Motorsports was now making the bars with the 2 bolt design and asked if he could purchase the components to convert to the 2 bolt design in which i said id find out from jk what exactly that would consist of, if it was possible and how much it would be. He then paid the cost of parts and that was where we stood. He then informed me of exactly what happened and the damage the bars caused and i offered him the parts free and cost on anything else we may sell that he might need to repair on the car. Although the bars are sold as off road use only products, We stand behind anything we sell and we are real people just like everyonelse. We understand that people will use these on the street and we are not going to hold it against them just for doing so. Lastly, since apparently JK Motorsports isnt competent at engineering or traction bar knowledge, we have Decided to Carry Pimple Traction bars that will be imported from ethiopia. Sorry about the trouble Noel, i know this has pimple characters words have nothing to do with you.

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We dont include anything except a shipping label. We are a distributor, not a manufacturer. Only reason i even waste time responding to your comments is because people are easily influenced with BS if they dont hear both sides of the story. Bars were not the best in the world when they came out, and jk has worked hard to improve them and keep the price reasonable. If that doesnt mean anything to you, then just keep making new screen names every chance you get, We are not the ones trying to hide who we are or what we do. Working on something with JK to get the better parts to everyone. Again, thanks for all the negative criticizm.

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STFU pimples.
thanks for telling it like it is mike.

Im now looking towards full race or lakewood, which can be seen here...
www.jegs.com part # 620-50100
not quite ready to put down $350 for the FR ones, BUT they actually tell you specifics about their products unlike other places that just show you a picture and a price....
so it $279 for another maybe(lakewoods) or $350 for an almost guarantee.

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you guys are ------- stupid if you dont know who pimples is :3 ------- noobs.

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Hey, all knowing wonder pimples. Why don't you explain how to start a fab shop that will last longer than 7 hours. I have an investor with a large credit card and I was thinking about opening one. No really, we really want to make this happen, and when we do, we're gonna laugh at all the people who know what they're talking about. wha-what?

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I use full race on my coupe and like them.

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Ahaha owned

You silly fat ----. Still livin with mommy pimples? Dumb question, you will be for the rest of your life.

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lol, classic hmt. Josh never fails to amaze in the worst ways.

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If he can't keep a shop open with someone elses credit card, surely he's not credible enough to have an opinion on something. lol

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Yes Mike and I are working on solving these problems with the older style bars.

The reason why I felt safe in offering these to the public was for 1.5season I had be test, modifing my own build traction bars before Mike even came into the game. I never had a breakage, driving 600+km to school for ENGINEERING and back through extremely shitty shreets of KW in Ontario and using them at the track.

A flaw has has come up and has not been solved in the current models and now moving back toward past models.

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Then you shouldn't be selling them anymore. You could kill someone. I supported your product and sent many people to Mike for your bars. If you knowingly continued to sell a defective design that is an issue in itself. The EG/EK/DC bars are one thing, they break, no big deal. EF/CRX bars break that could be potentially fatal.

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Now I dont think that you would find this kind of service anywhere else..Lsdmotorsports is trying to help him out.
I have a set on my crx and if i bought another crx or other honda I would get another set. Cuz I know that lsd would at the least try and help .

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Mike's customer service has always been top notch. That is obvious. That is not the issue. So, JK has admitted a design flaw in the bar that could potentionally lead to breakage and you would still buy a set? Would you buy flat tires too are do you understand how that would be bad? How about buy tie rods ends that are sawed halfway though?