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EG-prince 03-06-2006 01:34 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 
You guys should check out his post in the quarter mile times sticky-- page five near the bottom. He must be the coolest guy on HMT. or anywhere. 8)

beerbongskickass 03-06-2006 02:31 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 

Originally Posted by jibby
Why aren't more people using superchargers, like the vortec's, whimmple's,Eaton's,etc... I guess most smaller engines don't supercharge mainly because they won't fit under the hood... Turbo's are headaches, have delay at start, boost fails, overheating problems, tuning problems, constant problems....I just don't get it..... Does anyone agree with me on this?

Why? Because superchargers on Hondas are ------- gay. They don't make ---- for power and a turbo setup built correctly will beat it in every way and have a better powerband. The problems your talking about have nothing to do with it being a turbo setup, it has to do with the person building and tuning the setup being a dumbass. A turbo setup built right won't have problems. The only area where a S/C might make more power is below 4,000rpms, but who give a ----. Hondas are all top end and if you have too much power down low you will just have traction problems because we have FWD cars with dinky tires. On a RWD V8 it's a different story though because they can actually turn the blowers and will be able to put the power to the ground with the big ass tires they usually have. The powerband on V8's are a little different than us honda guys as well.

Your ------- retarded if you couldn't figure all that out on your own... go kill yourself.

:)

Toysrme 03-06-2006 02:49 PM

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jibby man your engine almost weighs as much as our cars
Actually you're a moron. The 1uz-fe only weighs right at 450lbs. All-aluminum v8 bitch.

jibby is half curious & half teasing your little engines. ;)

While obviously, he does not have one of the 10-15 grand supercharger kit's. He does have a 100hp wet shot on his sc400. It's not to be confused with grandma's Lexus.



You guys should convince him he needs a wire feed welder & that a $500 twin turbo SC400, without having to sacrifice the fact that it's a Lexus, is possible.

jibby 03-06-2006 03:58 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 
Toys- what's happenen, you found me, good job... This forum is rediculous, all these bastards don't like superchargers I don't get it.... and yes I was teasing and curous, but mostly bored and was looking for a good laugh or too... These punks on this forum need to relax with all the profanity... I mean these bastards responding on this thread driving their peice of ---- turbo'd go-carts need to relax on the attitude... In reply to these rude responses, I will say you guys are all punks and need to be bitched slapped and wake up to a real engine...and until someone on this forum steps up to some real V8 muscle I have nothing more to say other then you all can kiss my ass...... :-*

MAJORAHOLE 03-06-2006 04:15 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 
shut the ---- up. now you talk cause your d-bag friend, semi-backed you up. actin like your 100-shot toyota's tha ----. callin us punks? rather be a punk than a bitch.

beaker 03-06-2006 04:22 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 
jibby, you are a jackass......we arent bashing s/c in general, only stating why we turbo.

ok, youve got to think about it this way......is is HOMEMADEturbo. which means most of us dont have as much money to stick into our cars(initial cost, maintanance, gas, insurance........). so thats why most of us drive hondas, nothing can compare to them cost wise and replacement parts are everywhere.......your right, if had a v8 or hell even a v6 i would want to supercharge it. but the powerband on these 4 cylinders are much better off using a turbo. i can also understand why your v8 is great with a s/c. your motor doesnt rev near as high as a 4 cyl. so u having turbos might not be as effective. look, i dont know much about your lexus v8 so im not going to say anything about it, but if you dont understand our methods......

"Why aren't more people using superchargers, like the vortec's, whimmple's,Eaton's,etc... I guess most smaller engines don't supercharge mainly because they won't fit under the hood... Turbo's are headaches, have delay at start, boost fails, overheating problems, tuning problems, constant problems....I just don't get it..... Does anyone agree with me on this?"

dont come on here bashing everyone elses views.

btw. as far as the only down side to turbos are lag, but if your staging u can build boost before green, or if your racing from a roll(ghey) brake boost is there to save the day

jibby 03-06-2006 04:43 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 
Ok if you guys can be serious for a second, the truth of the matter is I don't know much about turbo's, I owned a 1995 300zx twin turbo Nissan for a few years and everytime I would go on a good hard canyon run race after the turbo's would always lose boost or be overheating or something.. It created a bad picture for me in regards to reliability...Thank god that car was under warranty or I would have really been screwed...... Now my understanding is that turbo's have come a long way in the last 10 years and are better cooled and don't have as many problems anymore. If turbo's work and are reliable then I am all for it and would even take a good turbo over my nos. Forced air Induction is forced air induction no matter how you look at it... So with that being said and after being insulted and bashed in every concieveable way, I would like to say if you guys are broke that's cool, money doesn't make the man, the man makes the money... I am all about creativity so keep building away...that is directed to the cooler dude's on this forum.. But all the other son of bitches can once again kiss my ass..... :-*

idiot-stick 03-06-2006 04:55 PM

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So you come on the board playing like you're a hard-ass, people get pissed off and bash you and you act like you didn't have it coming? I dont understand some people ::)

jeffescortlx 03-06-2006 04:56 PM

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Just because your car was overheating does'nt mean it was because it was turbo charged.

Now stop taking advice from your dad and grandpa and do a little of your own research about turbo's and superchargers.

dragon 03-06-2006 05:36 PM

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how are you going to own a turbo car and not know ---- about turbos? :l

Toysrme 03-06-2006 05:45 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 
MAJORAHOLE
You're the type that gives the Honda community it's reputation of being rediculously riced out, and nothing but attitude. It's sad when you've got such a large, active community, that has alot of good people in it. Yet they're lost because there are SO MANY pricks like yourself that don't know, or do tit-for-tat.

Turn around, and pull your head out of your back end.

N1ghtM0nkey 03-06-2006 05:52 PM

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Every community has those people. Jibby is that person in your community, he may not be riced out...but if we're being honest - he's an -------.

If I had a V8 I would probably supercharge it, because I love the supercharger whine (perhaps more than I love the BOV sound). That and some of the V8 chassis' are almost impossible to work on.

It should also be noted that not all supercharger types work the same as far as powerband goes. I'm no supercharger expert but I read an article that said something about centrifugal superchargers working more like a turbo in terms of how the power comes on, and how a roots type is more like your stereotypical supercharger with the awesome tip-in throttle response.

70Challenger 03-06-2006 06:04 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 
OK what a second...

Originally Posted by jibby
These punks on this forum need to relax with all the profanity...

Now lets take a look at that very same post...


Originally Posted by jibby
Toys- what's happenen, you found me, good job... This forum is rediculous, all these bastards don't like superchargers I don't get it.... and yes I was teasing and curous, but mostly bored and was looking for a good laugh or too... These punks on this forum need to relax with all the profanity... I mean these bastards responding on this thread driving their peice of ---- turbo'd go-carts need to relax on the attitude... In reply to these rude responses, I will say you guys are all punks and need to be bitched slapped and wake up to a real engine...and until someone on this forum steps up to some real V8 muscle I have nothing more to say other then you all can kiss my ass ...... :-*

practice what you preach retard

Reddy 03-06-2006 06:09 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 
I don't even know where to start with this thread so I'll just keep it simple/

jibby is a dumb ------.

jibby 03-06-2006 06:09 PM

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I am never going to turbo my car period.. Just look at all the fastest dragsters in the world, Are they turbo'd or blown engines? I rest my case thank you very much.

Yes I came over here to actually maybe learn something and then maybe raise a little ---- in process, so what!!!! Everyone else seems to be raising ---- on this forum so why should I be any different. Besides this forum reminds me a little of that TV show South Park and makes me laugh I find it all amusing at times when I am desperately bored like right now for example, it is raining, and I waiting on some parts to arrive, and am bored...

However, about the only thing I did learn on this post is how to insult people better,so thanks.. now I can really put someone down when I want too,, ewwww real constructive and uplifting... I just hope little kids aren't reading all this bullshit you guys talk..

I am done for now unless I get bored again, so now for all you head talkers go and tune your A/F ratio on your turbo's before a piston shoots thru your pretty little pink carbon fiber Honda racing hood...

beerbongskickass 03-06-2006 06:16 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 

Originally Posted by jibby
I am never going to turbo my car period.. Just look at all the fastest dragsters in the world, Are they turbo'd or blown engines? I rest my case thank you very much.

You stupid mother fucker... Hondas and dragsters are completely different. Go read my response, because I answered your original question as to why we don't supercharge our hondas, you obviously are not smart enough to understand?

Again go kill yourself... ;)

RJwaggs 03-06-2006 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffescortlx
Just because your car was overheating does'nt mean it was because it was turbo charged.

Now stop taking advice from your dad and grandpa and do a little of your own research about turbo's and superchargers.

Erh, even with a highly efficient IC, the compressed air from any type of forced induction is going to be a substantial bit hotter than if it were NA. Think those turbo GP cars run cool? On a normal vehicle, if full boost is sustained for a long period of time, heat will become an issue. Although this is only from research, and some guy named Bell.

Toysrme 03-06-2006 06:56 PM

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Due to a sudden... Influx of HMT members on lextreme. I want to make something clear.
jibby stands on his own & does NOT speak for our community...

While I realize it is one thing to call someone out, or tell them they're a flaming douche-bag here. I WILL NOT tolerate that on lextreme. You guys haven't really created a "problem" on our forum (thank you), but please understand it is run in a family oriented way, and will be run as a reflection that Lextreme wants it run.

You're all more than welcome to join, add, or participate with it, please do so with-in our rules.

mike saunders 03-06-2006 06:57 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 

Originally Posted by jibby
I am never going to turbo my car period.. Just look at all the fastest dragsters in the world, Are they turbo'd or blown engines? I rest my case thank you very much.

I'm a total noob on this board.

But you're a total idiot.

You have no ------- clue about what you're talking about. You gave that away when you said "forced induction is forced induction." Please call a friend and have him help you pull your head out of your ass.

I'm going to write two words and I want you to say them slooooowwwly. They have multiple syllables, so they might be tough...

Ready?

Parasitic loss.

Did you get that?

Parasitic loss is what makes superchargers MUCH less efficient than turbochargers. The supercharger drive belt eats upwards of 25 percent of the additional engine output. Think of it as a tax. You get a dollar from the government, but then you end up giving 25 cents right back. Superchargers are fine for huge engines, which can afford to lose a lot if they're gaining more. Read and learn, tool: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superchargers

Turbos are driven off the expelled exhaust gases, so they're not sapping power directly from the engine. The only drawback is a slight lag, which is extremely minimal with modern ball-bearing turbochargers. I don't know what piece of ---- you used to have, but it was probably crappy even then. If you used to have a real 300z, and not something imagined by the jizz-puddle you call a brain, then you'd know the intercooling on the 300zs was done by engineering school dropouts, and the Nissan turbo management was written by incompetent fucktards.

Please....Go find some anthrax....
Sniff deeply.


jinxy 03-06-2006 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jibby
I am never going to turbo my car period.. Just look at all the fastest dragsters in the world, Are they turbo'd or blown engines? I rest my case thank you very much.

Hey dumb fucker, turbos are banned from top fuel because they make to much power :-* they're banned from f1 also. and top fuel isint a prime example of any power making technology. they're push rod 2 valve engines with lots of air and lots of nitromethane

J-SMITH69 03-06-2006 07:11 PM

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superchargers are also less efficient because they are a big compressor spinning slower rather than a turbo which is a smaller compressor spinning much faster

RJwaggs 03-06-2006 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rawr
lots of nitromethane

21 gallons from start-burnout-kill switch :O

lextreme 03-06-2006 07:14 PM

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Hello All,

I totally repect this forum. Matter of fact i have few post here asking some tech questions. I would like to say any member posting in here is responsible for his own action. It doesnt reflect other forums that person visited or a member of.

Thanks
lextreme.com
site admin

SUPRA240Z 03-06-2006 07:16 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 
If that's youre ride Jibby, thats not much of a charger.
i think the mini cooper S charger is bigger. ::)

con 03-06-2006 07:20 PM

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Jibby you and your little boy toy need to do some research, thats why you got jumped on. Try not being a dumb ------- ------ and things will go much smoother for you. ::)

70Challenger 03-06-2006 07:23 PM

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I mean really, what did you expect Jizzy, coming to a turbo forums and asking why the members dont use Super Chargers, that would be like going on the Arian Nations website and writting... how come we dont have a picnics with black people

StrykerGSR 03-06-2006 07:41 PM

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someone ban this dumbshit he only has an account to start ----...

jibby 03-06-2006 07:45 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 
Man, Can't a guy have a little fun without stirring up the whole bucket of ----... Man I am done on this forum....!!! Sorry Toysrme, I thought these forums don't cross over, should have used a different user name...My bad...

I remain independant of any other forums and if you bastards have anything to say to me like hellboy or hellman or whatever your screen name is you shoud say it to me right here on this thread.. Cowardly, snitch, rat bastard!!!!!

jibby 03-06-2006 07:47 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 
Please ban me!!!!! I beg of you......

RJwaggs 03-06-2006 07:48 PM

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It's hard to believe some people on these sites are actually old enough to have a license.

StrykerGSR 03-06-2006 07:49 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 
you can come over here and make an ass of yourself but no one can come over to your forum and make fun of your 1" penis? that's hypocritical

jecu 03-06-2006 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by StrykerGSR
you can come over here and make an ass of yourself but no one can come over to your forum and make fun of your 1" penis? that's hypocritical

how do you know how big his dick is ???........faggot :X

89shithatch 03-06-2006 08:01 PM

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just leave hmt jibby, read the name of this site. Thats what we are here for. If you want a supercharger go somewhere else. and quit stealing online pics and claiming them as yours.

jibby 03-06-2006 08:10 PM

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As Rambo said: They drew first blood.. Look at my first post, and then look at the remarks that started flying right after that.. I was not rude first.. I didn't start this war, you guys did... I just wanted to know why you guys don't supercharge? Then the smack started to fly, and I am not a bitch so I got to man up and defend myself.no?.. Why don't you bastards lighten up.... I really am not that big of an ------- if you get a chance too know me... And my penis is longer then 1"...last time I checked.....Damn that would really suck...

How can you respect a forum that is based on profanity? This forum is a joke.....

Now please ban me......

dragon 03-06-2006 08:21 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 
somebody ban this fucker so he can quit coming in here repeatedly saying "ban me"

89shithatch 03-06-2006 08:30 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 
its like bringing nude chicks into a gay men party. people will get pissed..

buk9tp 03-06-2006 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jibby
As Rambo said: They drew first blood.. Look at my first post, and then look at the remarks that started flying right after that.. I was not rude first.. I didn't start this war, you guys did... I just wanted to know why you guys don't supercharge? Then the smack started to fly, and I am not a bitch so I got to man up and defend myself.no?.. Why don't you bastards lighten up.... I really am not that big of an ------- if you get a chance too know me... And my penis is longer then 1"...last time I checked.....Damn that would really suck...

How can you respect a forum that is based on profanity? This forum is a joke.....

Now please ban me......

do i need to remind you of your first post?


Originally Posted by jibby
Don't know my quarter mile time but I have a modified Lexus (V8) running nos, and I blow away these light weight turbo'd honda's, nissans, accura's etc.. 4 banger lawn mower engines regularly here in LA, California. Granted some are fast once they get going and eventually when the turbo kicks in they sometimes can hang... I have seen a few try to run nos and one of those small motors just threw a rod (complete destruction). Front wheel drive stinks too.... My import v8 will run with all you all....0-60mph.... Sorry fellas there is no substitute for lowend torque and the raw power potential of a V8 motor....Just my opinion.... Just wasted a turbo'd honda civic the other night... Smoked it off the line with the Supra LSD and Dragon Torque converter I am running on, oh and if the base 300hp isn't enough which usually is when racing a 4 banger with all the little gauge meters stacked on the dashs, If needed I will then kick in the 150hp nos shot and win the race....that is right this is a 1992 sc400 restored and modified Lexus I am talking about... Some of you guys may want to sell and buy a lexus V8 import you won't regret it.....I am new and I will try to post a few pictures....Late-


beaker 03-06-2006 08:33 PM

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why ban him.......then he can go say "hey, isnt this funny. they banned me. mommy i need milk money for tomorrow......"

its too simple, you dont want to come to this board, then dont come. no go play with your lincoln logs and leave us grownups alone :1

jibby 03-06-2006 09:15 PM

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I am still standing, a left, a right, a body blow no problem....Is that the best you got??? Is that all you got???? I am not impressed:6 Stick and stones may (but I dought it) break my bones but names will never hurt me... ;D Please fellas try and amuse me because this is starting to get old. I am sure I am not learning anything that can be made useful in life on this thread.... If you will not ban me I may have to ban myself. However, it appears some of you are enjoying all this, good, that is why I posted.. But if you guys don't start making me laugh, I am gone......

Back to subject - Do the turbo's still have that delay that I so remember? That is the problem with these 4 bangers that are turbo'd, no torque off the line and by the time the turbo kicks in the other racer with the nasty V8 is 5 car lengths ahead... Unless you ride the clutch and melt it at takeoff to engage the turbo you lose...If you do manage a good take off then you will be changing your clutch out every month.. You guys want to talk turbo's or you want to keep talking head? I can be civil can you?

I have raced a gutted and super light weight older turbo'd honda civic, with my nos grandma car and killed it off the line. The 4 banger couldn't get up the power and speed it needed to catch up. Although I must say it was very fast and right on my ass at the end of the race. Have they corrected that delay problem yet with turbo's? Turbo's and light weight cars do make for speed I will admit that, ...that is for sure... I owned motorcycles for years and basically your sitting on an engine with two wheels, thats it,,, and that is why those bikes are so damn fast.....

It's up to you guys you want to talk cars or smack? I go both ways, not......

89shithatch 03-06-2006 09:57 PM

Re: Superchargers?
 
quit making long parahraphs, nobody reads them. this aint a friking newspaper. we talk cars. and turbos. not superchargers.


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