MikeJ-2009

Yeah!!!! What do you mean by that, WHITEY?!?

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I think whitey still thinks we are living in the 1900's and black laborers given cocaine to enhance productivity will go around and rape all the white women. People like doofnoil is the reason why we have our goverment as it is right now, True america has fucked up in the past, but the good that we have passed on far outweighs the bad as far as America is concerned. Doof don't take anything you hear or see seriously and research your information with credible sources, the media at times can be biased but they are also not there to talk about some kid on crack on his troubles, they have to make ratings in order to make the the advitisers happy. As far as Bush is concerned his bad credentials for this term far outweigh what he has done for this country. His recent attempt to turn his public view is rediculous avoiding anything that is bad for his publicity and raging on about crap that is of not as high of a concern to the public. Personally i wouldn't give a complete rats *** about iraq and 9/11 sure go find osama but make that you're priority not just use it as a way to get into war with another country "supporting terrorism". God forbid the day north korean kim jong finally has the ***** to send a nuke towards the us, 9/11 would pale in comparison to that event. In my opinion bush was out of my favor from the start when he completly ignored the anti-nuke pact that clinton for so long tried to establish with north korea. If this wasn't a voting year i doubt we would of ever started an investigation on excess spending on goverment contracts in iraq.

Reddy

Read all my other posts in this thread, its all sarcasm. I said that in response to Random-Strike asking if we really wanted the blacks and mexicans choosing our president. It seemed like Random saying that a black president would ---- up America, so I said an equally stupid comment.




Actually it was this statement that originally got cocaine to be viewed as an addictive drug and caused the first ban on using it.

If you think that I was serious than

dragon

I understand now whitey..thats why i said i didn't know what you mean after that. I wasn't sure if you were being sarcastic or what

willahlborn

Some of you guys have made some good points, some of you other guys are acting like ------- doorknobs. Not pointing any fingers of course.

I've always thought of myself as a republican, but never registered. So this year I got interested in the election, and guess what I found. Both Kerry's and Bush's websites are available for public view; go check them out. While I dislike both these fucktards, at least Kerry's outlines a plan and gives very specific views and plans on many different issues. Some I agree with, most I don't. Bush, however, has a nice big flashy site with mostly "look what i've done for America", and has NO REAL PLAN in response to the democratic viewpoint on the issues. John Adams once said that America is a nation unto herself and will not go out roaming around the world in search of war; rather she will defend her homeland with all her strength and to the very last man. Lately i'd been thinking the only appropriate response to Iraq's non-compliance with UN resolutions and the terrorist attacks on 9/11 WAS to go out and attack whomever halfway across the world. But how did we get in this mess in the first place? Why are muslim extremists targeting US citizens? Because we got in bed with the Saudis in the 70s and 80s. The muslims just wanted to keep US forces out of their sacred land, and felt it was sacrilidge (sp) for any foreign military to be stationed in their country.

Again, the only appropriate response to what has happened in the last 3 years is what Bush has done. I agree with that. But if the US had not caused the feelings of animosity between many muslim people and our citizens in the first place, EVEN IF THERE WAS AN *ACTUAL* UNPROVOKED ATTACK on our country, can you imagine what defense measures could have been designed, purchased, and implemented with the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS that have been spent on this war? I think, all told, that the cost of the Iraq war will be around $130-140 billion.

I think the war in Iraq is necessary. I fully support it and know there are some Iraqi people who think it's wrong, but many more who are very grateful. But it's going to take a major political change in the US to prevent further animosity between our country and other nations--animosity that will probably provoke more attacks, cost us more money and increase criticism of the US when we respond, etc. Having said that, I don't think that either of the two people that can win this election are capable of bringing about such change.

So, we get to kick back, watch our leaders get us into more trouble, and watch our allies drift away from us one by one. It's pretty sad.

willahlborn

I need to say something about healthcare also. Some of you guys think that the government should have nothing to do with healthcare. Maybe you think the company you work for should pay for that instead, or that you should pay for your own insurance. Unfortunately, I don't think you've checked the cost of healthcare lately. Take me, i'm an unmarried male, age 25, prime of my life with perfect health. My medical insurance is about $100 a month. Why do I need it? Two years ago I didn't have it, got hurt snowboarding, and had to pay for my own CAT scans. $5000--and that wiped out my savings. Now I realize that yeah it's expensive, but if you don't have it, your life can get turned upside down in an instant. Think of people less healthy than I, pregnant ladies, the elderly. How the hell are they going to pay for health insurance themselves? A decent percentage probably have it through their work, but unless the company has more than 100 employees, it's very unaffordable and 99% of small businesses don't offer it. Small business owners simply can't afford to. And small business are what grow our economy. Not big business. But big businesses are the ones that can afford to pay for healthcare. Is it a coincidence that healthcare costs are RISING AT AN ALARMING RATE and that healthcare is big business also, and that big businesses are who elected officials cater to? Does this lend any credence to the fact that big businesses have their hand in almost every politicians back pocket?

The government pays for public education, public protection, and many other public programs that benefit americans. Sure, there are still private schools, private security companies, among other things. But healthcare and especially healthcare insurance is an industry that needs to be regulated by the government to avoid imploding on itself. The wealthy will still be able to afford private healthcare insurance, just as they can afford private schools and private security. But do something for the general public for christ's sake. :P

MikeJ-2009

Wrong again. Your taxes are not meant to pay for your healthcare. The problem of rising healthcare costs is due to the fact that people think they don't have to have healthcare insurance, and then they show up in the ER almost dead. They can't turn you away, so they treat you and the average taxpayer pays the bill for you. It's not your right to have healthcare. Pretty soon you'll want the government to pay your car note as well.
Healthcare provided by the government with the taxes that are collected could work, and could be a good thing, but you add in the fact that nobody is watching our borders (in general) and your fucked. Here in Ca. we have over 2 million illegal aliens that also share your belief in "free healthcare". Take a good look in the last two years at how many hospitals have closed here. That's why you can't offer free healthcare to everybody. Too much demand and not enough tax payers to equal it out.

willahlborn

That's part of it, but not all. Even if you show up almost dead, the hospital just needs to stabilize you. They're not going to undergo expensive testing, scanning, and state of the art medical procedures if they know you can't pay for it. The main reason for rising healthcare costs are the companies like Bayer and other pharmacutical (sp) companies that jack up the cost of drugs, and our over-litigous society that has gotten sue-happy in the last couple of decades. The cost of medical malpractice insurance has gone up so high, that it is the main reason general practicioners go out of business. They can't afford to be insured. :P