A Sad day....no more homemadeturbo
 

Alright here it goes....Ive been on this site all throughout my build on my f22 prelude....its gotten me the most out of my engine and money and Im lovin it since I can keep bumper to bumper with STI's....the truth. got about 9 witnesses. So besides that Im selling the car that Ive put my whole teen years til about when I turned 21 and a ---- load of money into the show car with alot of help from homemadeturbo for the dsm/f22 turbo project. That Im selling along with my passat and am just in the need for one car. So heres the decision I have to make. I have had my heart set on either a 04-05 Subaru WRX or STI. Never had anything besides a Honda or Volkswagen.

Anyways what you guys suggest? The 04-05 WRX or the STI. I was thinkin that since the WRX is alot less in payments I could mod it up still with the saved money (rims, springs, maybe exhaust and intake but thats all) while on the other hand the stock STI is basically done and needs nothing.


And for those who have helped out along the way,,,,thank you so much. Ive learned a little too much about turbo charged cars and am hooked as you can tell.

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Go with the STi, think the tranny is a lot better or something. Plus, its mid-low 13s factory.

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Sell all your cars, and buy a boat.

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Invest your money in to a house.

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Sti's arent low 13's from the factory you cunty

Id get an EVO if I lived in the states and RHD crx wasnt an option

Or a e46 m3

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i love the evo. But i have never driving in a wrx or sti so i can't tell you cuz im biased. But the evo is bad with some key upgrades.

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Oi Cunty, times from December 05 Motor Trend on a 2006 STi...
2006 Subaru WRX STI 4.5 13.0

So yeah, low 13s on a good launch and decent driver. My padre has an E46 M3, and man they move, but the STi is cheaper by a lot and just about as fast. M3 is more of a balanced car though

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I own an '04 wrx and it's alot of fun in stock form. Not fast, but still fun. IMO I would go with the sti for '04-'05 model years, or if you can jump to the '06 wrx do that as well. the 04-05 sti's used an ej25 instead of the plain jane wrx's ej20, and in '06 they jumped the redular wrx's up to the 2.5 liter as well.

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http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...ges/piazza.jpg

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Thats an 06, op said 04-05

06's still arent hitting 13.0's in stock form

Not happenning

Quit reading ------- car magazines and get down to the track

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13.0 flat, probably not...but mid-13's definately.

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04 sti is listed as 13.8, 06 is 13.0. What changed?

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The ej25 engine got a few extra goodies...subaru's version of vtec. ;)

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witha decent driver Sti are mid 13 second car. with a really good driver low 13 second car

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STi

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blah blah blah

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a lot. a nice tune, the 06/07 sti can be a real ripper.


get an sri, wrx will be slow no matter how much money you dump into compared to an STi,

let's say an 05 WRX with an STI bottom built wrx head, fatty turbo, fat injectors, 6 speed spec c tranny, sti rear end, blah blah blah, is ---- compared to a bone stock 06/07 sti [i know it's not an 05/04]. A car that has like 50-60k invested total is blown away by a ~35k stock car.

save yourself some time and money and start with an sti

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buy something cost less and save up the $, u KNOW you are going to ---- with the car no matter what.

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why not go subaru RS with a ej25 sti swap. much cheaper then all of the above.

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As car guys, no matter how much you say the STi is good to go, you WILL want to do things to it. It's just the way it is.

So it's up to you. I have an 02 WRX. Yes my tranny went after about 2 years, but now I have the stronger forester tranny in there, drives great. My car hit mid 12's last time I went to the track. It's fun and pretty quick. I did have to spend a few extra $$$ to get there.

BUT, you can find a cheaper WRX (02-05) and use the extra money to get it to EVO/STi numbers pretty easy, but you will have to work on the car. If you are like most guys here, you will enjoy it, except for when you change your Up-pipe and your injectors >:( ;D, but you'll have fun.

If you can afford it, then yeah go for the top of the line model. Get the STi and have fun with it. Just think about what you want to do.

I said my WRX would stay stock, because it was fast enough, fun enough to drive. That changed in about a week and after reading about other cars and how much you could do with them. I still love the car after almost 4 years.

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The '91 Miata with the T2 I tuned... no, I did not forget the -5 or the -8, it is a T2... made 175 whp off 10 psi and there is supposed to be video floating around of it killing a 310 awhp STi from a dig, and in all environments except gravel roads and potholes the low rent Miata far and away outhandles an STi.

Funny thing is, no STi owner raises hell on gravel roads and potholes despite the cars being engineered exclusively for such environments. That's considered polish and shine faggotry. My advice is don't be a faggot.

Well, that's the long version... chris probably summed it up best:

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Evo 8

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3.5L camry FTW

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w3rd. if your trying to save money dont buy another car thats going to tempt you to mod it. like a camry :S if you get an sti, im sure your going to mess with it, BOOST IS CRACK!!!

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just buy teh damn camry it will be faster then most of the setup here LOL
it ran 14 ish but traps at 99.9mph

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any car from Donk magazine. O0

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i enjoy pwning E46 M3s with my accord, and i was still on the stock engine lol. 195/60/14 all seasons FTW too

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Eh, it may be getting the AAW treatment soon enough... But yeah, they are excellent cars, just pricey as hell

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Altima SE-R ftw

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/1...ma.32064-E.jpg

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V8 Pacer ftw?

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*Fixed

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im an idiot... I shall go swap a v8 into a bmw Isetta now

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ls1 gremlin will nevar lose!

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EVO 8 used, find one with about 10k miles, for around 27-28k
you can have 330 ish awhp and a solid 12 second car for a couple grand
you will need:
a manual boost controler
replace all the charge pipes with 2.5"
full 3" turbo back exhaust, no cat converter
an aftermarket intake
a buschur racing maf kit
a buschur racing ecu flash
and for 30k you will have a car that will stomp a mud hole in an 06 STI or an E46 M3

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cut and paste from the mags huh lol

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Pretty much. :P Let me elaborate upon the evo8/9 downfalls...
1. Go ahead and add an mbc...it's pointless. The ecu reads an overboost and guess what...drops it back down to stock boost levels anyway.
2. Charge pipes will help, evo's have alot of rubber hoses on them that flex and stretch under boost.
3. A high-flowing exhaust will help, but I will elaborate on this towards the end. The downpipe is a killer on those, replace that asap.
4. An aftermarket intake is useless and pointless due to...
5. Everything that needs to be done on those cars to make power cannot simply be bolted on and the boost turned up. The ecu's are very picky, and as my friend with her evo9 found out, the more bolt-ons you add to them, the more power you will lose. Yes, and ecu flash will get you back up and beyond the stock setup, but not just a simple reflash kit. Dyno time, dyno time, dyno time...only way to really get more power with all those things. Just the flash alone won't cut it, as each car and each part is different. Not to mention that with only 10k on the clock, you'll still have a warranty. Guess what happens when you have the ecu flashed? Voided warranty. ;) Oh, and mitsu doesn't warranty the clutches on them as well as my friend found out...less than 30k on her evo9 and the clutch blew apart. Factor in at least 40%+ for drivetrain loss due to the awd.

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1.) buy an evo
2.) sign up for a new credit card, buy sweet jdm parts
3.) keep car waxed and polished at all times
4.) max credit card out at pac sun
5.) go to chipotle, get a chicken burrito
6.) it's kind of cold, throw on your north face jacket
7.) go shop at express
8.) talk to dudes at express about your car; buy cute pink shirt
9.) take express clerk out for dinner and a movie
10.) Drink apple martinis with your express date; drive home; lose sight of the road trying to find kelly clarkson on your ipod, die driving into oncoming traffic for being a homo

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The Evo's have a boost taper pill so it makes full boost, then tapers off a few psi. A manual boost controller can help stabilize peak boost pressure, but you can also remove the little pill and that'll make it hold peak psi.
You could easily spend $2k modding an evo, and be WELL into the 12's. A Jestr mail in flash is like $52, and on a stock EVO 8 its a guarenteed 20whp.
My boy was looking into gettin one, but didn't, but the Evo RS/GSR (non MR) tranny is only good to hold 450ish hp, and it doesn't like the clutch being dropped, but damn they're fast.
I need boost, I'm already addicted and I don't even have it yet. :1

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let me elaborate for you, my post was not a cut and paste from a magazine, its the mods you need to do to an evo to make 320-330 ish hp and have a solid 12 second car that is still reliable for daily driving, and thats a fact, and a mbc does serve a purpose on an evo, to control boost from dropping back down from 19-20 psi down to 17 psi, with a mbc you can make it hold solid at 19-20 psi, you can say what you would like and think you know everything, but if these mods are done to an evo you will have a solid 12 second car thats fairly reliable, and if you only care about reliability and warrentys then why the hell would you buy an evo ??? also no doubt theres no replacement for dyno tuning on each specific set up, but i can assure if you have those bolt on mods and do a stage 2 buschur flash it will run solid.....that is all...