The s-dime fell through and picked up a 50 trim...should I toss it on the evo?
#1
The s-dime fell through and picked up a 50 trim...should I toss it on the evo?
So the s-10 I was going to get fell through (need a new roof on mi casa instead) but I already picked up a nice minty rebuilt garrett 50 trim that I was going to toss on the s-10 (price was good, couldn't pass it up). So instead I've been thinking about burying my pride and buying one of the cheapo chinese blur t3 manifolds that's a knock-off of the full-race piece for the evo and tossing the 50 on the there. It's not going to be much of a step up beyond the 16g6c that I upgraded to a while back (it's rated somewhere around 41lb/min) but a much more linear boost curve and a solid top end pressure line unlike the 16g6c that likes to drop off in boost. With some good tuning I should be able to reach 425awhp on a mustang at my current boost pressure on pump, as compared to my sub 400awhp from a dynojet, or even higher once I get my water/meth setup installed.
#2
Re: The s-dime fell through and picked up a 50 trim...should I toss it on the ev
The 16G likes to drop boost in the upper rpms because it is a ****** internal wastegate.
Is a wastegate problem a reason to trade for a manifold disaster?
Is a wastegate problem a reason to trade for a manifold disaster?
#3
Re: The s-dime fell through and picked up a 50 trim...should I toss it on the ev
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
The 16G likes to drop boost in the upper rpms because it is a ****** internal wastegate.
Is a wastegate problem a reason to trade for a manifold disaster?
Is a wastegate problem a reason to trade for a manifold disaster?
#4
Re: The s-dime fell through and picked up a 50 trim...should I toss it on the evo?
A larger flapper is still a ****** ------- failure internal waste of time. But, yes, any turbine housing design that relies on an internal wastegate is to blame for boost taper.
You can brace the $250 chinese manifold to kingdom come, but the pot metal the manifold is made out of will outfail your best effort every time. Bolt the turbo directly to the block, so the mani is just a bunch of tubes with no load on them, and the collector blows a chunk out of it's center. Or you can totally reweld and brace it like Widebody, and the unwelded sections of tube visibly crack every dyno pull - ask Dmc1, he was watching it happen before his eyes.
You can brace the $250 chinese manifold to kingdom come, but the pot metal the manifold is made out of will outfail your best effort every time. Bolt the turbo directly to the block, so the mani is just a bunch of tubes with no load on them, and the collector blows a chunk out of it's center. Or you can totally reweld and brace it like Widebody, and the unwelded sections of tube visibly crack every dyno pull - ask Dmc1, he was watching it happen before his eyes.
#5
Re: The s-dime fell through and picked up a 50 trim...should I toss it on the evo?
Yea after what we seen yesterday up close and personal the ching chong mani=failure..... Don't waste your time, money, or efforts on trying to make it work and last.
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Re: The s-dime fell through and picked up a 50 trim...should I toss it on the evo?
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
A larger flapper is still a ****** ------- failure internal waste of time. But, yes, any turbine housing design that relies on an internal wastegate is to blame for boost taper.
You can brace the $250 chinese manifold to kingdom come, but the pot metal the manifold is made out of will outfail your best effort every time. Bolt the turbo directly to the block, so the mani is just a bunch of tubes with no load on them, and the collector blows a chunk out of it's center. Or you can totally reweld and brace it like Widebody, and the unwelded sections of tube visibly crack every dyno pull - ask Dmc1, he was watching it happen before his eyes.
You can brace the $250 chinese manifold to kingdom come, but the pot metal the manifold is made out of will outfail your best effort every time. Bolt the turbo directly to the block, so the mani is just a bunch of tubes with no load on them, and the collector blows a chunk out of it's center. Or you can totally reweld and brace it like Widebody, and the unwelded sections of tube visibly crack every dyno pull - ask Dmc1, he was watching it happen before his eyes.
As for the manifold, ehh...guess I'll take my chances. It's a daily driver anyway, not a track star, and my welding skills are pretty damn good now. Even if I have to cut sections out and replace them with some beefy stainless it's still cheaper.
#8
Re: The s-dime fell through and picked up a 50 trim...should I toss it on the evo?
No, flappers cause taper.
I've the ability to program boost solenoids so I can shape the boost curve however I please. I can't take out the taper on internal gates. Totally disconnecting the wastegate hose can't take out the taper.
I've the ability to program boost solenoids so I can shape the boost curve however I please. I can't take out the taper on internal gates. Totally disconnecting the wastegate hose can't take out the taper.
#9
Re: The s-dime fell through and picked up a 50 trim...should I toss it on the evo?
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
No, flappers cause taper.
I can't take out the taper on internal gates.
Totally disconnecting the wastegate hose can't take out the taper.
I can't take out the taper on internal gates.
Totally disconnecting the wastegate hose can't take out the taper.