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JHill 12-14-2002 10:16 PM

Road Racers
 
Just want to know how many of you guys are planning on taking your cars to the road coarse this next year for racing or lapping/instruction?

I know Jeff and Adam had a lot of fun! I had a blast going last year too, and the season will start again in March here in the northwest.


HMT-Admin 12-14-2002 11:10 PM

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Well I am definatly going to do it again this year.. Should be a bit more fun with a B-series swap rather than the Mini-me. I really need to do something about my brakes next year. Road racing is just so incredibly hard on them. But my main goal next year will be drag racing :) We just got to get Beaus ass out their!

https://www.s2ki.com/ezimagecatalog/...77-640x480.jpg

Here is a pic of Jim (Jhill) Road racing in Spokane in OCT.

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/drag/oct19/rr.jpg
Me in the Crx and Adam in the Hatch..

Jeff

turbohf 12-15-2002 01:06 AM

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im down if they let turbo cars run. Jeff posted a thing about road racing and it said no turbo's :-\ but i would love to go road racing as long as it isnt too damn expensive...

J-SMITH69 12-15-2002 01:09 AM

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would they let me race a 500hp 67 camaro street legal dragster? without slicks of course.

http://www.crpud.net/~jbliss/lpics/camaro_side.jpg

turbohf 12-15-2002 01:12 AM

Re:Road Racers
 
does that car even turn? (half kidding)...

HMT-Admin 12-15-2002 01:41 AM

Re:Road Racers
 
Run turbos? What do you think Adam was running on both his schools? Jim is involved in the West Coast Honda-Challenge, and I believe there is no class for forced induction. Just the hybrid class and there are some strict rules in their. Road Racing and competing is very expensive. a full scca cage is required.

The schools are expensive, but the fun factor over weighs it. Its 10 times what the thrill of drag racing is, and you learn lots of great driving skills. If I can afford it, I will go to every event this year.

Random-strike,

Absolutely! On my first road racing school, there were all kinds of domestics out their. a few chevelles and some older mustangs tearing it up (literally)



Jeff

turbohf 12-15-2002 01:44 AM

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yeah i was refering to the Honda-Challange thing. damn i was reading those rules and it doesnt even allow aftermarket ECU's...

J-SMITH69 12-15-2002 02:16 AM

Re:Road Racers
 
heh, it turns pretty good, it has polyueorthen bushings (bah i'm a terrible speller)

it has really tight sway bars too. just gotta drift and almost crash around every corner. but i'd be ok

i'd be out cornered but never out accelerated :P
it will turn better than any honda if i bought one of those chassisworks g-machine camaro front ends. with huge 4 wheel corvette disc brakes. but they're damn expensive

tonight i got the front of my crx ready to hold intercooler.
i could never get the bumper off. it was dark and raining and the garage is full so i was under the overhang. i think i had to un bolt the two bar things that hold the bumper on or something. pain in the ass :P
but i cut up the grilling in the front really nice, its going to look sweet with the conquest intercooler in there.
i got raped on my manifold/turbo adapter plate construction, but its really nice. has studs with alan wrench holes in them and it goes from circle to rectangle (manifold to t3 turbo). it'll flow a lot better and won't get so hot. only thing is the daytona bolt pattern is wierd but i got around it.
cost me 125 dollars just for the plate. damn union metal shop workers and their 50 dollar and hour rates.

http://www.crpud.net/~jbliss/lpics/m...lle_dakota.jpg

JHill 12-15-2002 11:29 AM

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Honda challenge does not have a class that allows turbo charged cars. It has a class called H1 that is for Hybrids, although it is still a little restrictive. The bottom end must be assembled from stock Honda parts only, so you could use a motor from an NSX if you wanted to (no matter how uncompetitive it may be). The cylinder head is open to any mods, but the intake manifold must again be honda.

I will be racing in a class next year in the northwest which is SPU, and does allow turbos. It is a catch all class for bastardized cars like hybrids like mine and many import racers.

That Camaro is way too nice to take the track to race, although it could be fun to go lapping in. Hate to see it get balled up. I have seen some nice old maros and novas at drivers schools.

Road racing is not cheap, and many of the club racers spend around $10K a year on racing, although many do it for $5K too.

Jim

J-SMITH69 12-15-2002 03:53 PM

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yeah i know what you're saying. i'd hate to have someone bump me. that would be terrible. the car is worth about 20,000

JHill 12-15-2002 07:15 PM

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My thoughts on turbo at the road coarse are this. Build it to last, and don't go overboard. I may even try to build a nice turbo hybrid if the whole WCHC doesn't pan out. It is allowed in some of the classes, although you have to realize that the competition is pretty ferocious.


4Aaron GE 12-15-2002 10:09 PM

Re:Road Racers
 
I'm definitely going to try to make it out to a track this summer. It always seems like I've got to be working during the organized track days. Personally, I'd like to get my suspension worked out before I start building an engine.

otterizer 12-18-2002 10:44 PM

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WHOA! They have road racing up here?? Whenever the next one is in WA I want to go! :D

JHill 12-18-2002 11:00 PM

Re:Road Racers
 
Yes, they are a lot of fun. I usually let a bunch of people know when the events are and try to get a group of cars. Of course, all the events are schools with instructors in the car with you guiding you along. It is by no means slow, unless the instructor thinks you are unsafe or is scared of your car, right Jeff?

"Whats that? Check engine light? Oh ----! Is there something wrong? whats going on?"


JHill 12-18-2002 11:07 PM

Re:Road Racers
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
Well I am definatly going to do it again this year.. Should be a bit more fun with a B-series swap rather than the Mini-me. I really need to do something about my brakes next year. Road racing is just so incredibly hard on them. But my main goal next year will be drag racing :) We just got to get Beaus ass out their!

https://www.s2ki.com/ezimagecatalog/...77-640x480.jpg

Here is a pic of Jim (Jhill) Road racing in Spokane in OCT.

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/drag/oct19/rr.jpg
Me in the Crx and Adam in the Hatch..

Jeff

Those are great pics from Spokane! The 911 is Erick, I have a roll bar on order for him to put into it. He posted the fastest lap times of the weekend. Ray in the S2000 is about to eat me alive in the top pic! I should be a much better match next year. The car is in the air right now getting:

Energy suspension bushings
Coilovers 400lbft/600lbrr springs
6 point roll cage
Momo Cup race seat
Racing 5 point harness
Window net
and lots more if Santa thinks I am good.

like Kosei K1 wheels with Toyo RA1's.

HMT-Admin 12-18-2002 11:16 PM

Re:Road Racers
 

Originally Posted by JHill
Yes, they are a lot of fun. I usually let a bunch of people know when the events are and try to get a group of cars. Of course, all the events are schools with instructors in the car with you guiding you along. It is by no means slow, unless the instructor thinks you are unsafe or is scared of your car, right Jeff?

"Whats that? Check engine light? Oh ----! Is there something wrong? whats going on?"


hah, the only reason my instructors have been afraid of my driving is the fact that they were females.. Money says the next school I go to I am gonna get another bitch! ahhh

Ya next time we go otty, I will let you know. It is sooooo Much fun!

Jeff

JHill 12-18-2002 11:21 PM

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Oh Yeah, the instructors are not used to honda engines either. They might start yelling "shift..Shift...SHIFT!!!" at about 5000 rpm, and your sitting there saying, "Uh, it redlines at 8500 rpm". ;D

turbohf 12-19-2002 12:03 AM

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the guys on the dyno thought/were hoping we were kidding...

otterizer 12-19-2002 11:01 AM

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so do you have an instructor sitting in the passenger seat with you? and do you have to take some sort of class before you go? I also heard that in order to do these kind of races you have to have a rollcage installed in your car, is this true?

JHill 12-19-2002 11:23 AM

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The events that are possible to get involved with and requirements for them generally are:

Drivers Education, using street cars. Instructors are with you in the car. Focus is usually smoothness, braking technique, line, track safety, vision.

Racing Schools, using street cars. The only difference from the above is that they may focus on the vision and line a little more, get into threshold braking, throwaway corners and such. You may also become aquanted with some of the procedures in races.

Lapping days, using street cars. Usually you need to have some of the above experience before they let you onto the track by yourself, like 4 days of instruction. Even then, you are usually watched and given feedback via notes from corner stationed instructors.

Road Racing, using fully prepared race cars. You must go through the entire licensing process (I am only halfway there), and prepare your car for the class you are going into. This usually involves a minimum of a 6 point roll cage, window net, race seat and harness, fire system, drivers gear (suit, gloves, shoes, helmet).

Solo I is like autocross, but done on a big road coarse. It requires a roll bar (4 point) and harness, and the drivers gear. You compete against the clock for lap times.

We have available in the NW, BMW club school in Spokane, IRDC race school at Pacific Raceway, Team Continental and Cascade schools in Portland.

The northwest sanction body for road racing is called Conference, and there website is http://www.icscc.com

HMT-Admin 12-19-2002 12:06 PM

Re:Road Racers
 

Originally Posted by otterizer
so do you have an instructor sitting in the passenger seat with you? and do you have to take some sort of class before you go? I also heard that in order to do these kind of races you have to have a rollcage installed in your car, is this true?

The schools are alot of fun, you will have a smile stuck on your face for a few days after. Most of the instructors are pretty good and will help you out. It really doesnt matter how fast your car is out their at all either. I was running my NA Mini-me and this instructor drove my car and was passing Cararra's/bmw's and even a viper.. LOL

This is all Jim's fault, me and adam are ------- addicted to this expenisve sport now :D

Jeff

93teg 12-20-2002 02:21 AM

Re:Road Racers
 
---- yeah!! I'm painting my Hyundai yellow and black and puttin her in the Hornet class up at Monroe for those 300 lap enduro races!! That rubber band of a motor will surely snap.

LeftNut 12-20-2002 02:00 PM

Re:Road Racers
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ

hah, the only reason my instructors have been afraid of my driving is the fact that they were females.. Money says the next school I go to I am gonna get another bitch! ahhh

........
Jeff

Dude, would you? ...... did you? ....... I'd roll in that ... :-X

HMT-Admin 12-20-2002 06:34 PM

Re:Road Racers
 
"i'd hit both my instructors"

Jeff

LeftNut 12-20-2002 08:45 PM

Re:Road Racers
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
"i'd hit both my instructors"

Jeff

:D ROFLMFAO Oh yeah, that was the phrase!

HMT-Admin 12-20-2002 10:33 PM

Re:Road Racers
 
what a ------- gay ass avatar, who wants to see a blown F20c? Just because you drive your car like a damn ----- :-*
I think you should have a new avatar, how about a nice pic of some of your famous cracked out brake rotors?, and a cool sig that says "Blown S2000 w/ Del Sol Pads"

;D ;D

Thanks for joining us Ray!

Jeff



JHill 12-20-2002 10:38 PM

Re:Road Racers
 
I kind of get a kick out of seeing the blown F20C, especially since it is not mine. That car simply hauls ass. I can't think of a Honda that is faster on the track in the northwest.

LeftNut 12-21-2002 03:53 AM

Re:Road Racers
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
what a ------- gay ass avatar, who wants to see a blown F20c? Just because you drive your car like a damn ----- :-*
I think you should have a new avatar, how about a nice pic of some of your famous cracked out brake rotors?, and a cool sig that says "Blown S2000 w/ Del Sol Pads"

;D ;D

Thanks for joining us Ray!

Jeff



LOL, found out they are actually Civic brake pads ..... want to borrow a set?

BTW, I'd hit the sister :o

HMT-Admin 12-21-2002 12:16 PM

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LOL, found out they are actually Civic brake pads ..... want to borrow a set?

BTW, I'd hit the sister :o
lol, civic brakes on the s2000 , very Tight!

"BTW, I'd hit the sister "

LOL, who wouldnt?




JHill 12-21-2002 01:36 PM

Re:Road Racers
 
I wouldn't! >:(

LeftNut 12-21-2002 05:04 PM

Re:Road Racers
 

Originally Posted by JHill
I wouldn't! >:(

LOL

JHill 12-23-2002 10:06 AM

Re:Road Racers
 
Found a new pic from Spokane.

Jeff, I have some pics for you and Adam too, they are prints, so remind me to give them to you next time you come down.
http://www.proflowdesign.com/images/crxspokane.jpg

HMT-Admin 12-23-2002 10:03 PM

Re:Road Racers
 
Jim, thats great! are they the photos your dad took? I just drove by your house today too! Me and the boys went to Crystal mtn skiing & boarding..

Jeff

LeftNut 12-23-2002 11:53 PM

Re:Road Racers
 
No Jeff, they're the pics Erick's Dad took. They were sitting on the counter at my house for the last month or so ;)

fatrhino 12-24-2002 12:16 AM

Re:Road Racers
 
anyone know of any courses/schools up here in new england? connecticut in particular?

fatrhino 12-24-2002 01:51 PM

Re:Road Racers
 
nevermind, i found the website for the north eastern region of scca

JHill 12-24-2002 02:33 PM

Re:Road Racers
 
Cool, you might also want to check out NASA. They are big in some areas. Neither NASA or SCCA are big in the Northwest, we have ICSCC. You might also check out the BMW club, Porsche club, and Alfa club in your area, they usually have schools available.

I am not even sure what tracks are close to you, Watkins Glen? Honda-tech forum has a big road race/autocross section with lots of east coast guys. You can probably find some guys to meet up with.

fatrhino 12-24-2002 03:27 PM

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thanks for the suggestion

rayray01 04-23-2007 08:25 PM

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;D ;) ;) :) 8) :1 :6 :y :yi like the yellow civic ive never driving on a road course b4 but would love to..thats really were i wanna take my eg at.

Donald125 04-23-2007 08:28 PM

Re: Road Racers
 
post from 5 years ago :l


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