Re:Rant about turbo kits
 

check out this one BigWig... he says hes got a B series for about 1,500 but not it doesnt include intercooler or FMU or injectors etc... *SHRUG* thought i'd show u

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2447584865

B16Drag

Re:Rant about turbo kits
 

man.. you gotta look at the big picture. yah yah you got most if not all of the pieces for the kit. but you forgot a few things...

1. You need a shop of some sort. U gunna do all this outta your home? if yes, then you're probably going to have to quit your daytime job. wait, you gotta pay hydro, gas, water, mortgage.
2. Employees? They have bills too.
3. Packaging, would you buy something in a damm potatoe sack?
4. All the "professional" kits look cherry. so you gotta pay to get your used ---- cleaned.
5. shipping? you gonna pay or the customer?
6. profit. i dont think greddy wants to be a charity. or break even. they're in it for the money.
7. and greddy, turbonetics, etc, dont deal directly w/ customers. Usually there's a middle man adding 25% himself!

Like I said before. you think it costs HONDA INC 20k to make a civic Si? hell no, I bet it costs them less then 5k.

Re:Rant about turbo kits
 

most companies who make turbo kits are not really targeting the demographic of guys who know their stuff when it comes to turbo's. Their market is one of two areas: guys who don't know jack about turbo's and would just like a bolt-on setup, or kits for cars that don't traditionally have easy methods for custom turboing. Think about a car like the Miata, where there is no used manifold out there that bolts up as easy as our HF manifolds. These companies don't really care what kind of kit we want, because as guys have already pointed out, it's not where their biggest profit lies. Why spend all the R&D on such an area as cheap HMT kits when they can make more on basic, fast-selling kits for the riceboy or "tough to tune" car? Besides, Greddy has a kit out for Civics and it's under $1500, it just sucks by our standards. It's a "don't even dare crank up the boost" kind of kit, and you'd have to replace several things to make some serious power. I think the two things that set prefab kits apart that we never get w/ HMT kits is a new turbo and a perfectly matched turbo manifold (meant for the block and the specific turbo).