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hondarex2323 10-26-2007 01:48 PM

PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondata
 
well as much as i hate ht i found this thread in gdd....
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/2135448
can hondadata really sue pgmfi b/c of some freeware that they say rips off hondadata?
i think its a shitty move on their part anybody got more info on about this?

greenbomber 10-26-2007 02:01 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
dip ---- its stickied in the tuning section, now that its on h-t doesnt mean it just happened. And Dave is being sued, IIRC, not PGMFI

J-MAN 10-26-2007 02:06 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
hey look down a couple posts. there was a topic just like this locked just a little bit ago.

but i do think it sucks

hondarex2323 10-26-2007 02:12 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
sorry didnt even to think to put it it or read the fuel management ......mods please delete

widebody93 10-26-2007 02:13 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
I was raped by my dad and he forced me to suck his dick :-[

90accordIHI 10-26-2007 02:17 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
you're a ------- idiot widebody, pull your bottom lip over your head and swallow.

Inquisition 10-26-2007 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by widebody93
BOY OH BOY
I'm going to catch hell for this
HONDATA S300 FTW
FREE Ware is nice but you should still recognize with a financial gesture to the inventor
I'm not saying PGMFI should pay Hondata, I'm saying that Hondata has been around for along time and I'm seeing alot of cough cough simularities from the freeware companies

You're an idiot. Now I see why everyone wants to see you banned.

stenseltizm 10-26-2007 02:31 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
OK douchebag, read through the old archived mailling lists and tell me PGMFI just copied hyaindadata and owes that 'inventor' a cut of nothing.... It's a forum dedicated to sharing info people learned, not ripping off other people's work. ::)

Jorsher 10-26-2007 04:14 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
widebody,

In order for their free programming to infringe on Hondata, they would have had to steal Hondata's code, which I HIGHLY doubt isn't the case. Hondata is standalone correct? I don't know.

Anyway they're wasting their time and I hope they get fucked, I'll be sure not to buy one of their products.

bigdaddyvtec 10-26-2007 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by widebody93
BOY OH BOY
I'm going to catch hell for this
HONDATA S300 FTW
FREE Ware is nice but you should still recognize with a financial gesture to the inventor
I'm not saying PGMFI should pay Hondata, I'm saying that Hondata has been around for along time and I'm seeing alot of cough cough simularities from the freeware companies

You know i thought you were a faggot, then you started to be okay... But this is just another instance of your total quueerdome and ignorance (yes, moreso than envan I - oh wait... I mean arrogance).

Go take your clutch slipping non running POS and ---- yourself in it with a Ricer gearshift knob.... Hondata is ------- gay. They have no interest in the betterment of the performance market, only the money they make....

NO ------- CODE was taken from them, if you pull the cock out of your mouth long enough to bresathe youd have read WHY Dave is being sued... You spent all that money on something you dont even need.... HAHAHAH Crome> s300 my dyno sheet says so.


Faggot

Now, go send Blundy some moneythat your mom made from sucking cock for crack hits Trick Slut bitch.

Guy-Fast 10-26-2007 04:25 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
Simple lets stay focused drop 5 bucks to the man who made it all possible. I just did and anyone who has used crome,turboedit etc etc etc should pay respect to the man who made it all happen so he doesnt get screwed by the man. Go to the sticky.

ifly87 10-26-2007 04:47 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
What a bunch of ----, he's got my support, even if it isnt much.

HondaTuner 10-26-2007 05:08 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
---- Hondata.

qweakers 10-26-2007 05:37 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 

Originally Posted by chris
Simple lets stay focused drop 5 bucks to the man who made it all possible. I just did and anyone who has used crome,turboedit etc etc etc should pay respect to the man who made it all happen so he doesnt get screwed by the man. Go to the sticky.

exactly stop bitching and get into action. i know most if not all of us have a few bucks to spare. take care of our own and deal with the rest later.

bigdaddyvtec 10-26-2007 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by qweakers
exactly stop bitching and get into action. i know most if not all of us have a few bucks to spare. take care of our own and deal with the rest later.

Already sent first thing this morning.

RYANARBOR 10-26-2007 06:48 PM

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sent ;)

JDMFantasy2K 10-26-2007 07:11 PM

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CROME Represent O0

widebody93 10-26-2007 08:26 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
Dont get me wrong Spiker

I'm all for people helping people out. And I didnt say anything about stealing codes or copy writing fraud. I chose hondata cause thats what I chose and I like it. Yes I had to pay for it but I dont like having chip burners, emulators, Zif sockets and all the extra cables hanging around for tuning. Mines simple and thats why I Bought It. Laptop, usb, and start the engine and your ready.

So I'm not being arrogant just stating what I like. My car runs and I just got in my FX500 clutch system so my slipping clutch issue will soon be over.

HondaTuner 10-26-2007 08:27 PM

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lol, you really are retarded eh widebooty?

Guy-Fast 10-26-2007 08:29 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
Ok plain and simple people saying they dont have money is bull ----. You dont have to spend 20 bucks send 2-3 bucks anything. This is the guy who made the white trash bred be able to turbo cars and tune any honda aka homemadeturbo. Stop being ------ jews. If you have a computer and the internet you praobly have a couple bucks you can send to pgmfi so they atleast have a fighting chance against these assholes



Hondata ban for me. I will no longer touch your products. This is just plain sad.

Oscar 10-26-2007 08:39 PM

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This will hurt their sales, period.

But one thing that confuses me

Someone posted a k-pro downloader on the pgmfi forum.
I didn't remove it as quickly as Hondata desired due to exams and being busy as hell.
Cease and desists, letters back and forth, demands and counterdemands, etc. (I'll post all the correspondence exchanged previously later.)
He didn't have time to delete the post, but he emailed back and forth?

I'm totally with dave on this and hope he pulls through. That's just something I noticed when I was reading. Probably won't help him much.

ghettoturbo 10-26-2007 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by d112crzy
This will hurt their sales, period.

But one thing that confuses me
He didn't have time to delete the post, but he emailed back and forth?

there's more to it

pony up some dough since this site is the reason you didnt have to spend huge $$$ to get good fuel management on your honda...this situation is pretty retarded

racepak 10-26-2007 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chris
. Stop being ------ jews.




---- off i sent sime buck's.

losesomethinbra 10-26-2007 09:49 PM

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How can you sue someone with no money? They aiint gettin ----. Though it sucks he needs to shell out of his pocket for defense attorney

Oh yeah, remove download from their site, problem solved. Not like they can put any real estimate on the loss in revenue anyways

HMTguy 10-26-2007 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by losesomethinbra
Not like they can put any real estimate on the loss in revenue anyways

Heh, ever heard of the RIAA/MPAA? Lawyers will just make up some ridiculous numbers.

losesomethinbra 10-26-2007 10:29 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
Thats a good point but the RIAA had a ---- ton of money, and didnt need any more money. More of a "dont do this or we'll kill you" type of thing. Either way I'm surprised hondata didnt ask for the link to be taken down if it was a problem

HMTguy 10-26-2007 10:35 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
Sure the RIAA needs money. Movies suck, so people aren't seeing them. They need to make money somehow and suing people has become an increasingly larger portion of their revenue.

And Hondata has tons of money.

MustangC. 10-26-2007 10:53 PM

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i sent him $20. no reason people cant send 2-3-5 bucks. thats ------ change you can find on your back seat floor for fucks sake.

i hope hondata realizes that that one thread alone, cost them tons on sales just on principal. how stupid are they gonna feel when they lose the suit, and then a ton of business because they are douchebags.

Tom-Guy 10-26-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by losesomethinbra
How can you sue someone with no money?

He has bills, a mortgage, and a significant income for a college student. He's the sort who will start raking in money eventually. Putting a $$$$$ judgement against any real property Dave has, and letting interest collect on it, is a good business move if you are a litigious shitbag.


Originally Posted by jagojon3
And Hondata has tons of money.

They grossed 10 mil either last year or the year before, I forget which. Not bad for a place with less than ten employees, right?


con 10-26-2007 11:00 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
OK, this is the first I heard of this. I spend no time in any fuel managent sections of any web sites. I know ---- all about tuning but I of coarse use it(on my list of ---- to learn). So if I read this correctly, This icy hot stunner made a web site to help us little nigs out and pissed off hondata because they think they own honda ecu raping and sued poor stunner who made no money from this to begin with...... even though they have no case but did this just to prove there ------- gay? So stunner sells his web site and all us nigs are sending him cash to help with life and law suites?? If I have this correctly post up the ------- paypal addy and hondata's email, ---- HONDATA!!!!

michigan_soler 10-26-2007 11:03 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
basicly, but he is still told by court that he has to keep hondata code off of the site... and he didn't keep it off as quick as they wanted... so they are sueing again.

Oscar 10-26-2007 11:03 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
Their sales will decrease substantially no matter what happens with the case.

Internet is super powerful. Give this a few more days, and it will be all over the ------- internet.

Hondata is gona leave a bad taste in everyones mouth.

----, just check out the thread dave made on h-t. Honda Ricer capital of the world, or net at least. I'm sure they lost quiet a few potential customers already.

MikeJ-2009 10-26-2007 11:24 PM

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I can't think of anything that more people in this hobby have used, and never had to pay a dime for it. There probably won't be another time to donate to something as important as this.


buk9tp 10-26-2007 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
I can't think of anything that more people in this hobby have used, and never had to pay a dime for it.

how bout your mom ???


buk see's the openning.. and he takes it!!! ;D

Oscar 10-26-2007 11:30 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
that was stupid.

88dx 10-26-2007 11:33 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
dammit hondata dosent have a phone # on their web site ??? I wanted too make a phone call :1 Money sent

buk9tp 10-26-2007 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 88dx
dammit hondata dosent have a phone # on their web site ??? I wanted too make a phone call :1 Money sent

If, after contacting a Hondata dealer, you still have questions you may call Hondata at 310-782-8278. Fax number 310 782 6383


hmt call athon?

Oscar 10-26-2007 11:36 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
do it.

88dx 10-26-2007 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by buk9tp
If, after contacting a Hondata dealer, you still have questions you may call Hondata at 310-782-8278. Fax number 310 782 6383


hmt call athon?

Thanks O0

ifly87 10-26-2007 11:44 PM

Re: PGMFI.ORG getting sued by hondadata
 
lol, I was looking for that # earlier. I've seen over a dozen sites that are contributing to this already and I'm sure there's dozens more, Dave will be able to afford a Johnnie Cochran style lawyer.


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