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I'm in the navy too, a buddy of mine played the Knee card for about 4 months, blamed it on the navy since he had no prior record of problems, (this was in submarine school) and he got out with E-5 pay for life. Can't beat that. I'd go with it if i were you.

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If I knew that one more day there would have gotten me a check for the rest of my life, I would've told them to get bent. Anytime I feel down about anything, I think back to how I felt as government property, and then I punch myself in the nuts for having to learn that lesson. >:D

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i hate when the military calls you and tries to trick you into joining, ive told them ---- the government im not being a tool, numerous times

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( I've only posted here twice in here, but I'm gonna take a stab at this, too...) HMT project in the works, BTW ;)

I'm in the military as well(Coast Guard-before the flames start on that, I've definetly "been there, done that"-we dont just pluck people out of the water stateside, believe it or not).

I understand you have problems-who doesnt. I'm stationed 300 miles away from my wife and 2 kids, and just did a 3 year tour on a ship and have seen them for a TOTAL of 8 months over that time due to deployments and whatnots. But even considering getting out on a "bullshit" medical discharge just because you dont wann be in anymore really burns my ass. Go to your command and tell them whats going on-they're not gonna let you ------- spiral into a state of desparate, broke homelessness- IF YOU TELL THEM - NOW - that you're having financial/medical/objection(which is it ???) issues. If you've only been in 6 months and you're at "A" school, then that makes you a what? E2? E3 at most? Should've done the math BEFORE you signed(its public info for ---- sake).
Do you normally just start a job without knowing what you're going to be paid? Do you always listen to what people tell you, and take it at face value? If so, send me all your money and I'll make your problems dis-a---------pear, I swear.

You dont make ---- at first(as with the begining of any other ------- carreer out there)- So get advanced. Advancement=more money. They pay for your housing, and your families medical insurance, PLUS your basic pay and whatever other entitlements you may get. Sure, you doesnt look like much when you get paid, but add up the housing and insurance alone in the civilian world- and you're not doing too shabby, just learn how to manage your ------- money. Sounds to me like you'll have money issues no matter what. It was tough at first, and still is for me, too(finacial/marital,personal etc...), but I stuck it out, got advanced, and its getting better, and its almost over.

In a nutshell, quit ------- whining, go to your command if you sincerely have these problems and sincerely want to get them worked out. Getting out isnt gonna be the magic wand you think it will. If you've got these problems now, you'll have them without the military,too. Sorry you were lied to-but we all were, no matter what branch of service.

But getting out on medical discharge-where everyone's gotta foot your bill for the rest of your life just because you suck and cant hack it-thats just bullshit. You sound more like you're just trying to find any excuse you can to get out.someone with a legit medical reason to get out wouldnt have even posted this other bullshit. If it is legit, then why all the other excuses?

Wow, that was long, sorry guys.


Oh yeah-I hear jumping off a ship with a couple of cinderblocks chained to your ankles is great exercise. Maybe you should try that because SGLI just went up to $400,000 on Sep 1st, that should pay off your bills.

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yea...........its not an easy thing. I had ZERO financial issues before i joined, i had bills but they always got paid. And yea i asked numerous times about the pay, i had the cheif and an e-4 both show me thepay scales and the akkiwances id be getting.

to ------ bad im not getting two of those allowances and the third was 1k instead of1.7 like it was supposed to be.

I have bills, the same ------- bills i paid easily before joining. now i cant pay them so my credit and my wifes credit are gonna be fucked. its real easy to buy vehicles and buy a home with trashed credit.

and its gonna be like that because i was ------ staright up lied to. not oh i didnt think it through, i was ------- told and shown one thing and ive got something completely different.

so you can tell me considering gettign out makes you sick but they fact that lying cheating and swindling is acceptable to get me in was fine is bullshit.

I dont want to get out for the sake of gettign out, i want to get out because I cant see how my family is going to live a decent life because of this ----.

my marriage is golden right now, I mentioned it earlier as a reason to give, not a problem.
but how difficult is it gonna be when the bills are through the roof collection agencies are calling nonstop and ive been gone for 1 year?
---- that.
i agreed to a sacrifce for benefits that are not real.
and that was no fault of my own.

its interesting how different the stances are on this from the people who are serving from those who served and are out.
i wonder why that is.

im still out on whether or not im going to try and get out.
im goign to medical because my knees gettign checked/fixed and im going to talk to my LPO about this ----.
ive held off on that because i have a very very good standing with my LPO and LCPO and I didnt want that effected but, yea, i think the situation might call for it.

feel free to lock this anytime, ive received all the feedback i need.

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When I was in, at first I really thought the military was this great thing. I'd go home and tell everyone about all the cool stuff I was doing, but I finally realized that I was convinced that what I was doing was this great thing, and it actually was the biggest waste of time I've ever encountered.
You would never buy a car without driving it, so why would anyone sign YOUR WHOLE FUCKEN LIFE away for ?? years? It was the dumbest ---- I ever did.
And on top of the brainwashing, once you let them know you wanna leave, they try to convince you that with what the government is giving you (housing, food, ect) you would never make it on your own without them.
SOUNDS FAMILIAR DON'T IT? Yeah, this is the same brainwashing that took place 2 posts above this.
If I give you a denny's to eat at 3 times a day, for 4 years, how many weeks could you go there and eat the same bullshit day in and out? Not many, so the food thing is a joke.

And if you think the military gives two shits about your family, you're high. Through their actions, they will prove that statement correct again and again. They want you to forget about your family, so you can become a numbered robot and do whatever they want you to do. Then you can feel co-dependant on the military, and then you end up one of those people that "retires" (but still has to work cause your retirement SUCKS ASS.) And then you're 45 and you can try to do all the things in life that free people did when they were 26.

For some people, the military is the only thing that could ever take them out of the backwoods of Arkansas, but for myself, it was a government approved babysitter program, and I'm not down with that.

I wish I saw that fuckface sargent now that told me I'd need to make $30K to have what the military was "giving" me. I'd laugh in his fucken face and remind him that I would have just gotten out of Omaha Nebraska last October. The same time I was moving into my new house, playing with my son, having sex with my wife, and working on the two businesses I've created with my brain. Fucken robots.

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I agree with this guy. You cant judge your Navy experience on school. I was in the Marines and you are right school sucks. Also they should be paying you extra every month for your wife and kids. I mean realize dude that you joined the armed forces. ----'s not going to be easy. As far as the "drug" route. I wouldnt do that. Once you pop you will still spend a few months in the brig. Pay will be taken,(you think you have it hard now), and at least another 6months for processing out. Suck it up man. Things will get better. Once you get out into the fleet you be making alot better money on deployments. Hazard pay,tax free areas,separation pay(wife,kids), plus you dont have ---- to spend your money on out there. I know you are least getting around 700-1000 extra a month for having a wife and kids. Thats plenty if you dont need to live in a huge house with brand new cars. I mean why the ---- did you join in the first place if you arent serious about it and not up for the challenge. The service is not where you can go and try it for a couple months and if you dont like it then you can leave. You're stuck for 4 years.In the Marines we had this ditty when marines were complaining about this and that. USMC stands for U. Signed the Mother Fuckin Contract . You knew it wasnt going to be easy. Dont act like you did. in all honestly its not that hard.

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lol, paz, your so confused on life it isnt even funny man. you werent lied to about anything. you didnt ask, therefore they didnt tell you. the pay chart, WTF, you didnt think about it. did you think it was BS when you looked at it? dont tell me you cant have a good life in the military. I have PLENTY of bills, and a repo im working out, life seems fine for me.

you arent getting your entiements....thats your own ------- fault. thats your own fault you havent gone to correct that, and you should get back pay for the ---- they fucked you on. if you would do what you are tought in bootcamp to use your chain of command to let them know of problems im 99.9% sure your problem would be taken care of. if it doesnt get taken care of you have this right called request mast...you should look into that.

you gotta face the fact your probably an e-1 or e-2 in the US military. a quick google search will tell you how much you get paid. (this took me about 2sec to find)

http://www.defenselink.mil/militaryp...Basic_Pay.html

your either an e-1 or an e-2, less than 2 years in, your making $1142.40 a month. if your married, you should get BAH. (basic allowance for housing, which should cover about 90% of your housing costs, depending on how you live) that amount of $$ depeneds on where your WIFE lives. then if you have a kid, you will get like another $100 a month for that kid. while you are at school, and away from your wife, you will recieve seperation pay. thats about $250 a month. yep. if you add that up, its about...well, lets say you live below the poverty level. you should have thought long and hard about it before joining. ;)

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listen dumbfuck.
for one i dont get ---- extra for having a dependent in addition to my wife.
and no bah isnt based on the location of my wife under my orders, theyre 342,
that means my bah is based on the zip of my command, that equals $700 a month less for me.
yea i saw the pay scale dipshit (im glad it took you 2 seconds), i was and am well aware of the base pay.

I know about the chain of command, ive ------- used it trying to correct that bah ----.

im an e-3 for 6 more weeks, then i get frocked.
and ------- property owes me $1900 dollars, you know when i get that, according to
norfolk, it just takes time to process, 7 weeks and still waiting.

and thanks for the input know-it-all, youre 0 for everything. ;)

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my time in, my experiences....i think i got you beat. if you dont want to take my usefull advice (i, along with most of te rest of the military has been through) as a platoon Sgt, i deal with problems like yours on a daily basis. I know what im talking about. if you dont want to take my advice, your on your own. dumbfuck. ;)

if you saw the pay, and your bitching about it..you set yourself up. deal with it. i now have 0 symphathy on you. its part of the military life. deal with it.