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paz 09-01-2005 03:02 PM

military
 
first off, i dont need any of you ------ douchebag kids giving me a bullshit opinion.

i need to get out of the navy.
Im not in any trouble or have any negative marks in my record, but i need to get out.
i have several ideas, i know some of you are current or prior service, im hoping you have insight.

ive had knee problems for a while, i havent reported them because i didnt want it to set back my training.
i think theres a chance it could be severe enough to get a medical discharge.

idea two, i have way too many bills for what i make now, (i make $1k a month less than i was told i would make before enlisting) i could try to press that and get discharged because of a lack of finiancial ability.

the last idea is i go see a chaplain discusss all the problems this is causing me, the strain its putting on my marriage, the severe depression its causing, some other ---- and try and get a failure to adapt/psych discharge.

so ?


45psi 09-01-2005 03:05 PM

Re: military
 
do some coke and fail a drug test, problem solved

paz 09-01-2005 03:24 PM

Re: military
 

Originally Posted by 45psi
do some coke and fail a drug test, problem solved

i considered that, until another guy did and they didnt kick him out, just fucked him.

thiggyperformance 09-01-2005 03:25 PM

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i was in for 5 years did my time....now i am diabiled...but the real question your in bootcamp???

paz 09-01-2005 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by thiggyperformance
i was in for 5 years did my time....now i am diabiled...but the real question your in bootcamp???

no ive been in 6 months.

thiggyperformance 09-01-2005 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by thiggyperformance
diabiled

disabiled

HondaTuner 09-01-2005 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by thiggyperformance

Originally Posted by thiggyperformance
diabiled

disabiled

Disabled. ;)

Complain about your knee, i'd play that card :P

thiggyperformance 09-01-2005 03:47 PM

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are you in "A" or "c" school?

d0nfry 09-01-2005 03:50 PM

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come out of the closet

paz 09-01-2005 04:06 PM

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a school. ive considered the im gay and i fear for my life angle, im married and have a kid though so that might be a hard sell. im still considering it though, very seriously

thiggyperformance 09-01-2005 04:14 PM

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first of suck it up and go to medical. i dont know what rate you are but more than likley you will be light duty (dont know the cicumstance) and being light duty wont set your training back unless your are in buds,corpman,seabee and there may be a few other rates.

Darkelvis 09-01-2005 04:34 PM

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slit your wrist the wrong way. You won't die, but it will prove that you are suicidal. :)

45psi 09-01-2005 04:57 PM

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consciencous objector. meaning you cant morally take another persons life. that will do it

RENR 09-01-2005 04:58 PM

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ahem.....


there are deffinately severals ways to go about it....... desperate times call for desperate measures......

ill tell you of some known methods....

pee on yourself at night on a regular basis...tell the doc you cant controll it...

you can cut your wrist in front of someone..(so they can call for help, you dont really want to die)

or overdose on pills. tell someone your really trust your plan. then on the night you od, have them "find" you overdosed and call for help. once your in the hospital still with the suicidal story. dont ever change your mind or show any signs of life getting better, if not theyll think your ok and just give yousome time off. youll get off on a med discharge aka honorable...



RENR 09-01-2005 05:06 PM

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oh ya make sure your buddy finds you before the pills start kicking in, this way the doctors still havetimefor flush your stomach.. you have to make it beleivable mang...

jinxy 09-01-2005 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by d0nfry
come out of the closet

then he'll be stuck in the navy forever, havent you heard that village people ----???!!

paz 09-01-2005 06:28 PM

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i live off base so i cant use the piss myself route.
the consciencous objector stance requires a lot although i just got reclassified
to a rate that requires me to kill people.(one of the reasons i want out)
i have to show a ---- load to prove it which i dont think i will be able to.
i was thinking somewhere along the lines of suicide with the extreme depression.

im goign to try and get a medical discharge but if my knee isnt serious enough
i need to figure somethign else out.

does anybody know anythign about what is needed to show financial hardship bad enough to warrant a discharge?

thiggyperformance 09-01-2005 06:33 PM

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you are such a liar

paz 09-01-2005 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by thiggyperformance
you are such a liar

hows that?

thiggyperformance 09-01-2005 06:39 PM

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what the hell is your rate?

paz 09-01-2005 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thiggyperformance
what the hell is your rate?

fc now, i was an et

RENR 09-01-2005 07:01 PM

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suicide route youll be out in two weeks..... med, your looking at 6 months...

i was an et man that was the biggest mistake in my life. i remember they called it advance computer field blah blah blah, they tought me how to fix a printer from the 70's. get out while you can mang.

paz 09-01-2005 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RENR
suicide route youll be out in two weeks..... med, your looking at 6 months...

i was an et man that was the biggest mistake in my life. i remember they called it advance computer field blah blah blah, they tought me how to fix a printer from the 70's. get out while you can mang.

haha a printer...hot
yea thats the idea, i know youre right about the suicide method too,
thats some serious ---- though, i dunno.

RENR 09-01-2005 07:07 PM

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well how bad do you want to get out?

thiggyperformance 09-01-2005 08:16 PM

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go to medical and get it documented. if its documented 3 times you will have a good chance of getting diability. far as your rate is concerned fc i do not know much about the rate. i was an AM. from what i gathered its not too physical and should not set you back in training. quit being a ----- and go to medical and fix your problems. just for you to know i am 60% disabled
but i was discharged honorable.

tukinnam 09-01-2005 08:33 PM

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Since you're still in school, is probably the reason why you are getting paid ----.

Do what you can to get out now, until its too late and you come home (after being out to sea for 6 months to a year) to another baby that doesnt look like you.

suicidal/depressed is the way to go.

MikeJ-2009 09-01-2005 10:46 PM

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Oh damn, welcome to Stealthmode's life in 2001. I hated the fucken airforce. Everyone I hung with were "dirtbag" airmen that all wanted out too. One of my friends did the exact suicide ---- Renr said, and he was out in 2 weeks, but you've got one chance to pull it off right.
After being a successful dirtbag airman myself, here's what I know.

Tell them your gay- If you try this one, be willing to kiss a dude if you have to. One person I know tried this and they actually asked them (2 straight guys acting like lovers to get out) if they would really kiss. The guys said yes. They didn't make them do it, but you better be willing to if they ask.

Fake the suicide- The guy I knew took 20 tylenol, they took him to the hospital and made him eat this tar ---- that makes you throw up. Then they found the 20 "whatever they were" pills and let him out. If he didn't throw up anything, they probably would have called BS on him and kept him.

Fail your School- If you fail your school, than you can't be a whatever you were supposed to be. Since your contract says that you agreed ? years to be a ???????, your contract is void. Unless your contract says that they can keep you on details for the rest of your life.


I was still in school when I wanted to leave. I will never tell anyone I'm gay, I don't give a ----. I couldn't fake suicide either. So I just told myself that if I broke a couple rules. I broke the little standard procedure ---- they have you do, and when the officer called me in, I told him that I wanted to leave. He gave me that, "you signed the contract, theres no way you can get out" ----.
I really hated that ----. I'm not the type of puppet that can live any amount of time with a fucken babysitter. It got down to the point where I just kept braking rules. I started failing school, and Capt. Hess told me to go to after school study hour or some ----. The day after I didn't show up, he called me into his office again and I had to do the whole solute at his desk and ----. I told him I was getting out, and he laughed. He started giving me the whole drill sargent ----, and I laughed at him. I really didn't give a ---- what his sleeve said.
So he gave me an article 15, and I had to go see the base commandor. I told him I was getting out also, and that if he wanted to send me to the military jail, that I would be willing to go. (In tech school you're so new that if you go to jail that soon, they just let you out.)
He said I didn't do anything serious, so I wouldn't have to go to jail, but he knew I meant it, so he said that he'd start my outprocessing papers. He said if I broke anymore rules that he'd stop my paperwork, so I had to be all good and ----. That was the hardest part, was being good for 3 MONTHS, until they processed the fucken papers.

Sorry for the novel, but that was the worst ---- ever.

Boost Creep 09-01-2005 10:52 PM

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what type of FC are you? what job do you have that you HAVE to kill people?

Reddy 09-01-2005 11:10 PM

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you can try the full metal jacket approach of jerking off 10 times a day. And when they call you in to talk about it, just start jerking off in front of them

dragon 09-01-2005 11:14 PM

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just start acting gay towards the other officers

SkunT 09-01-2005 11:19 PM

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im in the Marine Corps. 4years down...4 to go.

1. your knee wont do anything for you. im about to go through knee surguery soon...

2. drug's. the navy has a tollerance for it...so your fucked there.

3. gays. well, they can be open about it now in the army...so why not the navy to.

-wanna know how i would get out if i were in your shoes...go see the chaplin. you've only been in for 6 months. you still mean nothing to the military. until you hit your year mark...you can get out pretty easily by just sayin...this isnt for me. go to the chaplian...tell him everything, break down cryin...play it out. it might take a little time to get seperated, but you can get out.

-if that doesnt work...you have a cronic pain in your back. *research it. im not gonna tell you...(because you have to 100% understand it in order to make it work) but theres something that cant be detected in your back with some pain involved. its an easy out ;)

thiggyperformance 09-01-2005 11:26 PM

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suck it up. why the ---- did you join? did you think it would be a cake walk..you made it through bootcamp the most stressfull part of the military and you want out? you must be married cause they would not let a recruit out of the barracks. maybe the old lady is stressing you about money or something tell her that your going to move into the barracks. that way you can get some sort of seperation pay.

SkunT 09-01-2005 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thiggyperformance
suck it up. why the ---- did you join? did you think it would be a cake walk..

lol. i agree, but at the same time, its fucks like this guy (the one who made the thread) who make the military look bad...so let him go.

tukinnam 09-01-2005 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by thiggyperformance
suck it up. why the ---- did you join? did you think it would be a cake walk..you made it through bootcamp the most stressfull part of the military and you want out? you must be married cause they would not let a recruit out of the barracks. maybe the old lady is stressing you about money or something tell her that your going to move into the barracks. that way you can get some sort of seperation pay.

let him leave.. Ive seen this before, person wanting to leave but the "higher ups" want to give them a chance or someshit. Although his whining is valid, It fucks up the others having to listen to it, very contagious.

From the moment you contacted the recruiter, is a weeding out process-- and its ok if you dont like it. Better to leave now than blank out when a life is at stake.

If you're quitting because of financial hardship, your superiors should be able to help you out. They'll make sure you are spending your money where it should be (I have no doubt, kid are expensive). Contact your Superiors, they have an open door policy.

bensaccord 09-02-2005 01:16 AM

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I spent the last four months in the army as a squad leader kicking soldiers from my unit out of the military. It's not an easy thing to do. The military does NOT like losing personel. I must have sent 10 guys back to Iraq because the division commander didn't feel the cause for discharge was enough.
Drugs.. eh. according to regulations you have to fail more than one urinalisis and have it documented that you were counciled before they can even think about discharge. Mental issues?? I had a Sergeant in my squad go AWOL because the Battalion Commander was doing everything in his powers to pull him back to Iraq. Didn't think the base docs were going to be able to get him out before being sent back. Medical Issues. Same story. Better be some good ---- and you'd better be able to prove it. Discipline Issues.. Make sure they document everything you get in trouble for. And dont expect any little ---- to get you out either. Most of the Disciplinary chapters I had had packets half an inch thick. And it still wasn't an easy sell. Not to mention having to deal with a Dishonourable Discharge for the res of your life.
If you go that route, try your best for an "Other than Honourable", at least you can have that changed 6 months down the line.

MikeJ-2009 09-02-2005 01:22 AM

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They told me they were going to give me a General discharge, under honorable conditions, and when it was all said and done, they gave me an "uncharacterized" discharge.

I wouldn't give a ---- if they gave me a Saddam Hussain discharge. The important thing is that the government doesn't own me anymore, and they can kiss my muddafuken azzzzzzzz. >:D

SkunT 09-02-2005 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bensaccord
I spent the last four months in the army as a squad leader kicking soldiers from my unit out of the military. It's not an easy thing to do. The military does NOT like losing personel. I must have sent 10 guys back to Iraq because the division commander didn't feel the cause for discharge was enough.
Drugs.. eh. according to regulations you have to fail more than one urinalisis and have it documented that you were counciled before they can even think about discharge. Mental issues?? I had a Sergeant in my squad go AWOL because the Battalion Commander was doing everything in his powers to pull him back to Iraq. Didn't think the base docs were going to be able to get him out before being sent back. Medical Issues. Same story. Better be some good ---- and you'd better be able to prove it. Discipline Issues.. Make sure they document everything you get in trouble for. And dont expect any little ---- to get you out either. Most of the Disciplinary chapters I had had packets half an inch thick. And it still wasn't an easy sell. Not to mention having to deal with a Dishonourable Discharge for the res of your life.
If you go that route, try your best for an "Other than Honourable", at least you can have that changed 6 months down the line.

this is true. all branches are different though. i had a buddy in the army pop 3 times on the piss test...and they never did ---- to him. In the Marine Corps...once and your done. Your out faster than flies on ----. I would think it would be about the same for the Navy...considering the Marine Corps is a branch of the Navy.


Originally Posted by Stealthmode
They told me they were going to give me a General discharge, under honorable conditions, and when it was all said and done, they gave me an "uncharacterized" discharge.

exactly...you werent in a year. you were still gaining "military charactor" go pull your govt record. I would put money on it that your military history isnt on it.

trust me, i drove a General for 18 months. I saw this ---- on a DAILY basis. ;)

go talk to the Chaplain. (use your chain of command though.things will go much easier)

KFB 09-02-2005 09:54 AM

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kill yourself. if you do it right, your family will get your SGLI and you'll be out of the military. >:D

Researcher 09-02-2005 10:06 AM

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id go with the knee problem thing the military now adays will most likely let you go if you cant perform your duties based on a physical injury. if its serious enough i would get a medical discharge. they could really care less about the money thing. but go for the knee thing then the wife thing.

paz 09-02-2005 03:24 PM

Re: military
 

Originally Posted by tukinnam

Originally Posted by thiggyperformance
suck it up. why the ---- did you join? did you think it would be a cake walk..you made it through bootcamp the most stressfull part of the military and you want out? you must be married cause they would not let a recruit out of the barracks. maybe the old lady is stressing you about money or something tell her that your going to move into the barracks. that way you can get some sort of seperation pay.

let him leave.. Ive seen this before, person wanting to leave but the "higher ups" want to give them a chance or someshit. Although his whining is valid, It fucks up the others having to listen to it, very contagious.

From the moment you contacted the recruiter, is a weeding out process-- and its ok if you dont like it. Better to leave now than blank out when a life is at stake.

If you're quitting because of financial hardship, your superiors should be able to help you out. They'll make sure you are spending your money where it should be (I have no doubt, kid are expensive). Contact your Superiors, they have an open door policy.

well no "higher ups" know anything about it. neither does anyone besides my wife my dad and you assholes.
i'll see how it goes, im off this base in 6 weeks, i'll see how my next command is.
the only thing that has actually been as it was told to be is the first command im at.
nothing, literally nothing is how i was told before and during my enlistment process.
so what i joined for isnt happening, its not, "oh this isnt fun anymore" or "i just cant do it"
its i was straight up ------ lied to atleast 4 times and the bullshit hit my limit when i got reclassified
along with 140 others in my rate because the detailers fucked up.
bullshit, i left a good job and a comfortable lifestyle for reasons that were lies.
now i cant pay my bills. i had to buy ------ milk on my credit card last week, ---- that.
my wife and kid dont deserve to suffer through ---- because the military
thinks its alright to ---- people over.
so blow me with the suck it up ----.
renr, steve, i appreciate the comments


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