Joined the 400hp SOHC club...on vitaras!!
08-18-2006, 08:47 PM
#122
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Re: Joined the 400hp SOHC club...on vitaras!!
Originally Posted by ososlohatch
your a ------ no one cares keep postin on h-t im sure they love your stories
08-19-2006, 09:54 AM
#124
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Re: Joined the 400hp SOHC club...on vitaras!!
Originally Posted by ososlohatch
your a ------ no one cares keep postin on h-t im sure they love your stories
08-19-2006, 12:09 PM
#125
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Re: Joined the 400hp SOHC club...on vitaras!!
Originally Posted by ososlohatch
i was stretching my story just like him if you couldnt tell by the sarcasim i was laying it on pretty thick .. like i said theres is something wrong .. what it is im not 100% sure but this is a false setup guranteed .. i could give to ***** what this pud whacker post up, i dont know if you remember this hatch... i like how this kids 4door doesnt hit more power with alot less done and alot less quality partrs https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/...?topic=66054.0
08-19-2006, 02:07 PM
#127
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Re: Joined the 400hp SOHC club...on vitaras!!
I dyno'd at 323whp at 17-18psi with t3/t4 50trim and .48AR. Hind-sight tells me that my 6" JRC intercooler was a significant restriction too.
But i think 400whp is right in line with the whp i made and the other guy with the vitars setup over in seattle, 354whp?
JD, since this thread has already gone to ----, i guess it won't really matter if this is OT.
I'm currently running alky injection with my Vitara setup, i notice that there is a huge seat-of-the-pants HP jump going from 11.5 to 11.8-12 A/F. I'm running just a hair over 25% 50/50 mix with my 450cc injectors.
I have a suspicion that i could pull even more fuel, but i just want to bounce ideas as to what other people typically run for A/F, 12.3 range a/f?
But i think 400whp is right in line with the whp i made and the other guy with the vitars setup over in seattle, 354whp?
JD, since this thread has already gone to ----, i guess it won't really matter if this is OT.
I'm currently running alky injection with my Vitara setup, i notice that there is a huge seat-of-the-pants HP jump going from 11.5 to 11.8-12 A/F. I'm running just a hair over 25% 50/50 mix with my 450cc injectors.
I have a suspicion that i could pull even more fuel, but i just want to bounce ideas as to what other people typically run for A/F, 12.3 range a/f?
08-19-2006, 03:58 PM
#128
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Re: Joined the 400hp SOHC club...on vitaras!!
Originally Posted by evosol
I dyno'd at 323whp at 17-18psi with t3/t4 50trim and .48AR. Hind-sight tells me that my 6" JRC intercooler was a significant restriction too.
But i think 400whp is right in line with the whp i made and the other guy with the vitars setup over in seattle, 354whp?
JD, since this thread has already gone to ----, i guess it won't really matter if this is OT.
I'm currently running alky injection with my Vitara setup, i notice that there is a huge seat-of-the-pants HP jump going from 11.5 to 11.8-12 A/F. I'm running just a hair over 25% 50/50 mix with my 450cc injectors.
I have a suspicion that i could pull even more fuel, but i just want to bounce ideas as to what other people typically run for A/F, 12.3 range a/f?
But i think 400whp is right in line with the whp i made and the other guy with the vitars setup over in seattle, 354whp?
JD, since this thread has already gone to ----, i guess it won't really matter if this is OT.
I'm currently running alky injection with my Vitara setup, i notice that there is a huge seat-of-the-pants HP jump going from 11.5 to 11.8-12 A/F. I'm running just a hair over 25% 50/50 mix with my 450cc injectors.
I have a suspicion that i could pull even more fuel, but i just want to bounce ideas as to what other people typically run for A/F, 12.3 range a/f?
ANd what kind of gas are u running on 17-18psi?? Pump gas?? Or nah?
08-19-2006, 04:23 PM
#129
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Re: Joined the 400hp SOHC club...on vitaras!!
D16 knock limit on pump seems to be around 350 whp, a little less if you use a log manifold. Water injection will give you 10-15% more knock limit in 50% water:fuel ratios, racegas even more.
Alky runs hella cooler than gas when it burns, and water has four times the cooling properties of alky (latent heat of evaporation blah blah blah). A rich mixture just uses unburned gasoline as coolant.
Sounds like you are cooling combustion reaction so it's burning slower = needs more ignition timing. When you lean out .3 AFR the ignition timing starts coming back in line. There's also a chance you have a little misfire action going on, are running richer than 11.5, and the misfires are leaning out what the wideband reads.
I'm completely totally clueless what you mean by 25% 50/50 mix. Until I know what and how much you are running I can't really advise what you should do with any confidence, but YES people have leaned out big power cars almost to stoich and let water do all the cooling. Just keep in mind that if you make more power (heat) than your level of water injection can handle, the water dissassociates into H2 and O2 and your wideband readings reflect anything except reality - at those temps the H2 and O2 don't react with each other, but seek out Al and Fe aka consume your engine, which is why detonation leaves "pits" in the combustion chamber/piston... for every pound of gasoline consumed you get two pounds of water, and the overheated + dissassociated water chemically reacts and consumes the combustion chamber/piston in a very high energy explosive reaction. Irvin Glassman's "Combustion" gives good details on this, covers using powered metals and metal slurries as fuel.
I think I've babbles semi-incoherently, thanks to five cups of coffee. Gimme more details, give me an idea what you're unclear on, and I'll crack at it later tonight when I've calmed down.
Originally Posted by evosol
JD, since this thread has already gone to ----, i guess it won't really matter if this is OT.
I'm currently running alky injection with my Vitara setup, i notice that there is a huge seat-of-the-pants HP jump going from 11.5 to 11.8-12 A/F. I'm running just a hair over 25% 50/50 mix with my 450cc injectors.
I have a suspicion that i could pull even more fuel, but i just want to bounce ideas as to what other people typically run for A/F, 12.3 range a/f?
I'm currently running alky injection with my Vitara setup, i notice that there is a huge seat-of-the-pants HP jump going from 11.5 to 11.8-12 A/F. I'm running just a hair over 25% 50/50 mix with my 450cc injectors.
I have a suspicion that i could pull even more fuel, but i just want to bounce ideas as to what other people typically run for A/F, 12.3 range a/f?
Sounds like you are cooling combustion reaction so it's burning slower = needs more ignition timing. When you lean out .3 AFR the ignition timing starts coming back in line. There's also a chance you have a little misfire action going on, are running richer than 11.5, and the misfires are leaning out what the wideband reads.
I'm completely totally clueless what you mean by 25% 50/50 mix. Until I know what and how much you are running I can't really advise what you should do with any confidence, but YES people have leaned out big power cars almost to stoich and let water do all the cooling. Just keep in mind that if you make more power (heat) than your level of water injection can handle, the water dissassociates into H2 and O2 and your wideband readings reflect anything except reality - at those temps the H2 and O2 don't react with each other, but seek out Al and Fe aka consume your engine, which is why detonation leaves "pits" in the combustion chamber/piston... for every pound of gasoline consumed you get two pounds of water, and the overheated + dissassociated water chemically reacts and consumes the combustion chamber/piston in a very high energy explosive reaction. Irvin Glassman's "Combustion" gives good details on this, covers using powered metals and metal slurries as fuel.
I think I've babbles semi-incoherently, thanks to five cups of coffee. Gimme more details, give me an idea what you're unclear on, and I'll crack at it later tonight when I've calmed down.
08-19-2006, 05:23 PM
#130
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Re: Joined the 400hp SOHC club...on vitaras!!
Originally Posted by Darkelvis
Dude, seriously, what the ---- is your problem? Throughout that whole thread you were bashing kevin's hatch talking about how it wasn't possible, and it was fake, and his setup was bullshit, etc... But now you went through and edited all of your posts then linked to the thread to prove some stupid point. You are ------- stupid as ----. What happens in a month when someone breaks 500 hp on a d series here? Are you going to edit all of these posts to act like you agree with this kid then link here to prove that you can only make 400 hp? Again, I ask, what the ---- is your problem?
