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i have to talk this.. in my work i was talking with the mates.. abuot cars.. what cars are better.. i of course saw japan cars..and other guy (more old than me) say... bah! just better cars are European.. specially german cars.. and i did say yes but i think better cars are japan cars,are more reliability and so.. he did says.. nah look german cars.. there are much with +300 whp.. and what about japan cars? some car has about 350 whp stock? (i know only 350z series limite about 300whp) and say not not (in that moment i asked myself.. thats true, why? but i thought that it could be some law frmo japan that cars only must to have 300 max.. but ok).. then we begin to speak about my car , cuz other guy are looking for to buy a Focus ST with 225 WHP TURBO 2.5!!! and i saw bah! that's suck! and guys begining to say.. sure your car is better , not? i saw, yes , if i boost my car i can to achieve more power that this 2.5 turbo!..just w/ 1.6! then begining to discuss about that.. the guy are more older than me saws.. i know your car is a lil fast.. but i think there are not turbos for your car! and me :o .. he continue saying.. for to win more power it's necessary to fit some better camshaft.. and i saw yes yes.. thats right but it's no easy as you are talking.. and then talking about compression ratio.. he is right saying , head, pistons, cranckshaft and rods make the compression ratio .. but i saw to he.. and the turbo then? no no, with a turbo you dont get more C/R and me :o , all guys laugh at me like if im wrong..

i duno if you can to understand good my low english but definitely i know that the most spaniards dont know abuot performance and so.. they make to you feel bad , they think that are the better...

other thing he did says be , if you rev more your car, you will get more power , me again :o ..

i feel bad cuz guys laughed at me cuz they did think be right... :-\ , but well...i think there are alot ppl in all countrys like they..

and a question that i have is..why in japan there are not cars more than +300? for some law about that? or why? that's the only question that i have..

HMT FTW.

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Tell them they are talking out there ass's! Ive spanked many a Focus RS and ST with my turboed EG6! They are slow

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i think j-land did have some kind of regulation on there cars to be limited to 280bhp due to the fact that most of the cars they manufactured were imported/exported elsewhere for the differnt markets ie: edm,usdm.

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yeah.. i saw to he.. "buy one! " when i boost my hatch complete.. ill smoke that car! :D" ..

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for future refrence and ease to the rest of us,

Saw is the past tense of see (example: I see a cat outside. Yesterday I saw a dog outside.)

The words you are looking for are say (present tense) and said (past tense) (example: So, I said to him "---- off.")

Yep, HMT, were you can learn how to turbo anything at the same time that you learn to speak english. :)

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i dont think that cars car have more than 300 hp , they cant have over a certain power to weight ratio.

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if i had money enought for to finish to boost my hatch.. i would boost it already :-* about english yes.. you are right.. ;D i said ;D

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Hey Walter your English is getting pretty good! Keep it up ;D

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ha ha ha!!

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dile a todos qoue son una bola de jotos y resa que no te qieran cojer!

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whos ancestor got conquored first?

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Yeah, screw them Walter. When they get that focus, you'll get your chance to laugh at them :)

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its still funny that japan's low horsepowe/displacemt r cars can still smoke most domestic cars with more hp/torque, and displacent, in stock form. and thats one of the reason Japans's cars are the better cars in my opinion. they are not big muscle cars, but they are potent for what they are. and look good at the same time. Japan cars for the folks who like it nice and simple. myself is a big fan of Japan and some German cars. excluding bmw/and some porcshe I think they are overrated

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prove it, thats ------- funny. there is 6 regular production cars that can break into the stock 13s from gook land.

supra, rx7, nsx, skyline, sti, evo, MAYBE the 300zx but probably not. i may be missing a couple jap only cars but probably not

should we make a list of the big three cars that can break into the 13s??? would be embaressing.

btw, no 350z came with 320whp thats a pipe dream

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:D

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lol nice quote.

here is a short list of "dumbestic" cars able to break into the 13s.

Buick Regal Gran National
Buick Regal GNX
Cadillac CTS-V
Cadillac STS-V
Cadillac XLR-V
Chevelle SS
Camaro SS
Camaro z28
Corvette L71 (1969)
Corvette ZR1
Corvette Z06
Corvette LT1
300C Hemi
300c SRT8
Crossfire SRT8
Charger SRT8
Charger 2006
Magnum SRT8
SRT4 (13.9) as tested in mags
RAM SRT10
Viper RT/10
Viper SRT10
Viper GTS
Ford Lightning
Ford GT
Ford GT40
Mustang 1971 351
Mustang SVT Cobra
Mustang GT500
Mustang Mach 1
Mustang 2006
Saleen S351r
Saleen s281
GMC Syclone
GMC Typhoon
Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8
Oldsmobile 442 HO
Plymouth Cuda 440
Plymouth GTX 440
Plymouth Road Runner 426 Hemi
Firebird SLP Firehawk
Firebird Trans Am
Firebird Formula
GTO LS1
GTO LS2
Saleen S7
Shelby Cobra

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random I know you are pro American cars, and no one can tell you different but I drive a 125hp audi A4, that but most domestic guys like you to shame, and this car is stupidly slow, it has good topend and take off but now midrange, but I still beat most guys that drives domestic cars putting out more power.

not to mention my piece of ---- rice burner thats what they car the civic. I never lost to a mustang or camarow or corvette. from built to stock, from 1/4 mile to street racing. from street racing to autobahn.
I know you wont beleive it because you only see it one way, domestic cars are better than imports. so its a no win discussing it. and I quit doing that a year ago, when someone disaggre with me about the potential of my car, I challenged them to shut them up. too bad we arent in the same country.

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you live in germany, come to the states there are more cars here that can beat your car than people that live in germany. get over yourself and your highly modded pos riced out civic.

what "domestic" cars are you racing? old trucks? 80s tpi camaros? 80s v6 firebirds???? 4 cylinder mustangs??? 93 impalas? 86 escorts????? comon you know your pos a4 can't beat any v8 camaro or mustang

there is potential in ANY engine.

there are more vw bugs in the world that can beat your shitty homosexual civic than dollars you put into it, and we know it was a lot.

PS, your a4 has NO power ANYWHERE.

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haha!
I am not saying my car is the greatest, I am just trying to point out how ignorant domestic guys are, even when they get beat 10 car lengths they still think they are better. I know in the states it would be harder to own a lot of domestic cars. but the little thats here are just as big headed as you. all they see is displacement, and amount of cylinders.

I've owned all mustangs I've raced. including the new GT. a 97 GT with vortech supercharger multiple times. another Gt not sure what year it is but its a newer one with a supercharger also. all the camaros I've raced including a turbocharged v6. a pontiac ws6. ram whatever. multiple times. a fox body supercharged mustang. multiple times. cobalts ss, srt4 upgraded beat them all multiple times. the only car I've ever lost to is my boys 2000 si turbocharged on the autobahn and only because rev higher than me.

not saying I am too fast, just saying domestic guys are too ignorang to realised that not all imports are slow, and to beat them they need to step the game up. not just insult the japs.

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everyone knows any engine can be fast.

they also know you beat their supercharged ($3,000 s/c kit 7psi) stock engine mustang with a 15k fully built highly moddified honda.

putting 15k into a foxbody mustang and you'll be running 9s

WAY TO GO! (just a joke don't get your panties in a bunch)
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dont you know I know that if a mustang does the same thing I do I dont stand a chance? Iknow that and I recognise that. but what I am saying is, the owners of domestic cars dont, because they are closed minded about displacement owns no matter what. 2.0 neon owner make me look stupid just by talking about his stock 2.0 and my 1.8 with a bunch of domestic ignoramous friends. jsut to show how stupid most of them are.

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well they are from germany... lol

who cares about those people, those are the same people who say cause i gots vtec ill beat your ls1 camaro

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???
x2 :D

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90% 0f the cars u listed couldn’t run high 13's consistently. I know their probably tested at that but they couldn’t consistently. Oh and every GM car on that List ud have to add at least a quart of oil after the 1/4 pass 8)

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how many of those have 6 cylinders :P

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they are Americans soldiers, rednecks, cowboy wanabes, confederate flag flying tobbaco chewing country boys with wierd accents. not Germans

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is that an excuse for being slow? lol

only a few :)

the mid to late 80s GNX and Grand Nationals are as fast or faster than mid to late 90s supras

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The thing about the japanese automakers is that there was an unwritten rule. Kind of an agreement that the cars would not have over 280bhp. The automakers had a sort of a "pact" at least on paper not to produce anything over 276 advertised bhp because they didn't want a horsepower war in a country were the highest speed limit is 62mph.
The nissan skyline has produced well over 276 AWHP on a dyno, right off the showroom floor.

Car and Driver January 2005
"Since 1989, Japanese automakers have all endorsed—at least on paper—a kind of gentlemen's agreement that limited their advertised horsepower to 276 on domestically produced vehicles. Their primary goal was to avoid a horsepower war in a country where the maximum speed limit is 62 mph. But in October, Honda officially broke the agreement at its Legend (Acura RL in the U.S.) press conference when it unveiled the model's 300-hp, 3.5-liter V-6.

For years, it's been presumed that once an automaker stuck out its neck and ignored the 276-hp mark, the rest would quickly follow. And judging by what's in the Japanese production pipeline, it looks as if the conventional wisdom was correct. Coming on the heels of that new Acura RL will be the Lexus RX400h with an estimated 300 horsepower, and then the flood gates open—Mazda will introduce a 300-hp two-seat RX-7, Acura will again cross the line with a new NSX with at least 400 horses, and Toyota will mark its territory with the supercar on page 36.

Japanese engine designers, however, will readily concede that the country's manufacturers have been building cars with more than 276 horsepower. It's just that none of the automakers wanted to officially break the agreement. It's no secret that Mitsubishi Lancer Evos, Subaru Impreza WRXs, and Nissan 300ZX twin-turbos have been in violation of the agreement for years, but at least in Japan, they all claimed to have 276 horsepower. The false advertising was ignored for the sake of harmony. Not anymore."

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woah 300hp :)

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the RX7 spirit R and the NSX broke 276 way before the RL came out.

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there is nothing like sound of high reving honda B or K series engine O0 that's whi people love japaniese :y

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:3

160 crank hp of screamin vtec, totally awesome

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Alot of cars broke the 276hp barrier along time ago the skyline, 300zx, rx7 spirit r, etc... They just wern't advertised above 276. Like I said Skylines off the show room floor have dynoed more to the wheels.

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Making HP of RPM is mastery for me and shows how tech is avanced.
200HP of a stock N/A 2L displacement engine is mastery (EDM CTR).
How much HP you can make of common 5L engine that can be found in early 90's Mustangs assuming you stay stock internals?
How will be the power/displacement ratio? Can you do as good as average D series Honda (worst Honda engine)?
Can you make 100HP/1000ccm? That would give you 500hp+, and all for the same moneay as for D-series.

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or better yet, i could p port a rotary engine and get 1.3 liters to push 300 whp. stfu noob. its all about how an engine is designed. most car manufacturers simply take proven ideas and stick them in car, while others are constantly innovative.

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Damn I'm sick of these arguments.

No ---- there are a lot faster dumbestic cars then imports. The bigger the engine, the more power, right? That's something we can all agree with. I'd just rather spend 6 grand total, and make my Integra run 12s than buy an LS1 Camaro for 12k and run 13's.

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Seems like all of you either like imports and domestics, and not both.

Myself, I love the classic cars more than anything, but I still love Honda's, nissan's, toyota's, etc... I don't get why you can't like a car just because of where it was manufactured.

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good info!

tomorrow ill say to them why japanese cars havent more than 300+ whp ;D , thought i dunno if to waste my time to talk with them about this.. ::)

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jap cars are always going to be lower hp and much lower tq. the motors are smaller a v8 will always dominate on the tq end. but the pluss side of all imports is there weight. there power to weight ratio is better. that is why a first gen crx with a stock motor with 120 hp can run mid 13s with a small shot of nitrus and whoop the ---- out of lots of stock motor domestics with nitrus, and even some with built motors running nitrus, s/c, and boosted. i watch alot of track times and a magority of domestics, all domestics with mild builds run mid to high 13s and up to around 15s. now im not saying all domestics are not extreamly fast if they are built rite they can make lots of power. its just usualy cheeper to buy, build, drive, and own a jap car. but somone who is happy with domestics rite on u build what ever makes u happy.

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He is Spanish.I am Mexican.His ancestors blood was forced into mine :'(