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beerbongskickass 02-26-2006 04:52 PM

Re: High hp and stock sleeves, chime in.
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
it can be done, lots of them blow up though.

go the gas station, and get put premium in your car, but sometimes premium isnt almost 93octane... blow your motor... crack a sleeve etc...

lots of motors have take high hp (for a honda) with stock sleeves, but about a ---- ton of them have blown up and cracked sleeves at that same power level or lower.

sleeving them is a good idea if you want to make serious power, or else you will be holding your breath everytime you go WOT

Yeah those cars blew up or cracked sleeves because they weren't tuned properly.

J-SMITH69 02-26-2006 04:56 PM

Re: High hp and stock sleeves, chime in.
 

Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
Yeah those cars blew up or cracked sleeves because they weren't tuned properly.

::)

tell that to dave

whenever a honda motor blows up they say bad tuning, if we were jsut good tuners like in japan all hondas would be able to make 5000hp on stock blocks. its all in the tune

zplightning 02-26-2006 05:00 PM

Re: High hp and stock sleeves, chime in.
 
I think 98CTR was well into the 500 hp range on stock sleeves, and I am pretty sure he daily drives it every day

beerbongskickass 02-26-2006 05:06 PM

Re: High hp and stock sleeves, chime in.
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
::)

tell that to dave

whenever a honda motor blows up they say bad tuning, if we were jsut good tuners like in japan all hondas would be able to make 5000hp on stock blocks. its all in the tune

People like Jeff Evans and Mase have proved stock sleeves can handle high horsepower. Detonation and high cylinder pressure cracks skeeves, so if tuned well they won't crack. Just look at all the high horsepower honda that are out there these days. Oh and you mentioned pump gas, well people aren't running 500+whp daily and when they are running high boost it's on race gas. 300-400whp on a built motor should be fine on stock sleeves with pump gas.

J-SMITH69 02-26-2006 05:10 PM

Re: High hp and stock sleeves, chime in.
 

Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
People like Jeff Evans and Mase have proved stock sleeves can handle high horsepower. Detonation and high cylinder pressure cracks skeeves, so if tuned well they won't crack. Just look at all the high horsepower honda that are out there these days. Oh and you mentioned pump gas, well people aren't running 500+whp daily and when they are running high boost it's on race gas. 300-400whp on a built motor should be fine on stock sleeves with pump gas.

mase is a douche and knows nothing about how engines work. anyone can edit cells on a laptop to tune a motor. it is not rocket science and it is not hard.

that being said, its hit or miss lots of them blow up, lots of them last a while

beerbongskickass 02-26-2006 05:17 PM

Re: High hp and stock sleeves, chime in.
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
mase is a douche and knows nothing about how engines work. anyone can edit cells on a laptop to tune a motor. it is not rocket science and it is not hard.

that being said, its hit or miss lots of them blow up, lots of them last a while

Come on now Johnny. ::)

Both of the tuners I mentioned know a hell of a lot more about tuning Hondas than you do. I have nothing but respect for Dave, but just look at the things Jeff Evans has done with Hondas. You can' say it's hit or miss because he has proved over and over it can be done, when done right on a properly built and tuned motor. I just find it hard to believe that Jeff (BH) and Full-Race Geoff just happened to have "freak" stock sleeved motors.

J-SMITH69 02-26-2006 06:05 PM

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mase is a total douche, ask him waht the definition of load is.

"mase" doesnt even know how the dyno he tunes cars on works.

he is one of the douche bags on HT who said "there is no such thing as load on an engine" and anyone who says that is a complete idiot

so as far as im concerned mase = idiot, and as previously stated, a monkey could be trained to tune a fuel injected gas motor

beerbongskickass 02-26-2006 06:13 PM

Re: High hp and stock sleeves, chime in.
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
mase is a total douche, ask him waht the definition of load is.

"mase" doesnt even know how the dyno he tunes cars on works.

he is one of the douche bags on HT who said "there is no such thing as load on an engine" and anyone who says that is a complete idiot

so as far as im concerned mase = idiot, and as previously stated, a monkey could be trained to tune a fuel injected gas motor

I just threw Mase in their because he has tuned quite a few high horsepower hondas on stock sleeves, but let's forget I mentioned his name at all. You can't say the same about Jeff Evans now can you... ;)

J-SMITH69 02-26-2006 06:16 PM

Re: High hp and stock sleeves, chime in.
 

Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
I just threw Mase in their because he has tuned quite a few high horsepower hondas on stock sleeves, but let's forget I mentioned his name at all. You can't say the same about Jeff Evans now can you... ;)

i have no idea who that is, so no :P

im sure he is a great guy

beerbongskickass 02-26-2006 06:39 PM

Re: High hp and stock sleeves, chime in.
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
i have no idea who that is, so no :P

im sure he is a great guy

Jeff Evans (aka Boosted Hybrid) Go here man if you want to learn something about hondas... www.evans-tuning.com and check out the dyno graph sections to see all the stock sleeved cars he has tuned. He has a ---- ton of good articles on just about everything (building motors, tuning motors, engine geometry, etc...). He is also has a Bachelor of Science degree in Mechanical Engineering, so I'm sure he knows how a motor works. :)


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