Finished my boosted 1.4 civic
I have finished the boost procedure last month..
Here is some pictures about my project, from Hungary! (HMT is really own the world!) It is a 96' civic 1.4i (75hp) D14A3 Engine management: OBDI P28 ECU Some parts from a D16Z6 car: intake manifold, injectors, distributor, ecu, alternator... So I can chip/datalog the ecu... The system: KKK03 turbocharger (default in audi 1.8T) 2" intake tube Fiat coupe 2.0 intercooler Peugeot GTI air filter 240cc injectors Custom header for turbo BOV Gauges: Oil pressure, Boost/vac, AFR (with stock narrow band o2 sensor) As soon as I can get more money I will put the D15 mainshaft and pistons to the D14 block. It will get a D16Z6 head too... The system runs on 5-6 PSI yet. http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/8485/018qv.jpg The car. http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5...etup6409pm.jpg This was the first install of the turbo with a std D15 header http://img495.imageshack.us/img495/6703/028po.jpg With the new header... http://img495.imageshack.us/img495/4096/033lg1.jpg There is some Intercooler http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8686/048nz.jpg Small turbo and the pipes http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3585/063bz.jpg The Fiat coupe Intercooler fits fine ! http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/59/0336lq.jpg Inside the car... http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9205/078mh.jpg 1.4 T !!! When I get dyno-ed the results will coming too... (85WHP + 0,4bar boost) |
Re: Finished my boosted 1.4 civic
Badass.
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Nice work, if I were you I'd upgrade to the d16z6 block as well. Good job though :)
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wow, 1.4 liter. thats ------- amazing. i bet its fun to drive though!! ur gonna need bigger injectors, u'll be surprised at how fast those things max out
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1.4i, damn ive never even heard of that. i now know honda has d14, d15, d16, d17,d18, b16, b17,b18, b20, b22, f20, f22. f23, h20, h22, h23........... ---- thats a lot of four bangers. oh, since you are the first person ive seen with a 1.4i and its turbo - mad props to you.
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you forgot b21 :P
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Re: Finished my boosted 1.4 civic
Originally Posted by RotaryGeek
1.4i, damn ive never even heard of that. i now know honda has d14, d15, d16, d17,d18, b16, b17,b18, b20, b22, f20, f22. f23, h20, h22, h23........... ---- thats a lot of four bangers. oh, since you are the first person ive seen with a 1.4i and its turbo - mad props to you.
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Good stuff.Looks like a pretty solid setup :y I love seeing the European setups with diff engines.
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Man honda must of hated Euro as you got 1.4l. That Sucks. Nice build. Have fun adding more as you go!
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first off good job boosting the 1.4, but you need bigger injectors/ a chipped ecu and tuning or the motor is gonna blow up fast, and second, of all the motors you listed, there is not a B22 honda motor, 2.2 liter B series, uhhhh no....
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there are more 1.4 turbo civic owners in the forum and even one in the Turbo Projects page how come you've never seen one before?
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Re: Finished my boosted 1.4 civic
Originally Posted by boosted_b16
first off good job boosting the 1.4, but you need bigger injectors/ a chipped ecu and tuning or the motor is gonna blow up fast, and second, of all the motors you listed, there is not a B22 honda motor, 2.2 liter B series, uhhhh no....
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Thanks!
Thanks, guys!
I know my car is a very veak thing, and it has a small engine but the people on the streets are amazed when they hear the sound of the BOV... " what? turbo in a civic? " ;D ;D I will try to set tha target AFR to 12:1, because I dont van to melt the pistons... My 240cc injectors are not enought? It can supply 125 HP on the D16Z6... I don't want to see a broken connection rod.. so I will very happy when my car outs 100WHP (~130HP on the mainshaft) Thanks for the tip, guys! I will search for bigger injectors... But I plan to replace some parts... D15 mainshaft, connection rods with pistons, D16Z6 head... The tuning can starts, but it can't finished! |
Re: Finished my boosted 1.4 civic
Originally Posted by lumpenst
there are more 1.4 turbo civic owners in the forum and even one in the Turbo Projects page how come you've never seen one before?
Other people can play with it too... ;D |
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holy ---- that turbo is tiny!! That little thing can't be making a whole lot of power....it looks like its for a mini bike or something.......lol
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Re: Finished my boosted 1.4 civic
Originally Posted by Schister66
holy ---- that turbo is tiny!! That little thing can't be making a whole lot of power....it looks like its for a mini bike or something.......lol
I plan to change it to a bigger one.... :y |
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nice to see more projects on the d14's :)
i just got my new turbo and will post some pic's soon :) |
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thats awesome setup... if that turbo came from a 1.8t i think thats a KO3 turbo and it starts boosting around 2200. looks nice man! tune it, get some bigger injectors, and dyno it. i want to see how much it makes.
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Re: Finished my boosted 1.4 civic
Originally Posted by B18bEG6ick
thats awesome setup... if that turbo came from a 1.8t i think thats a KO3 turbo and it starts boosting around 2200. looks nice man! tune it, get some bigger injectors, and dyno it. i want to see how much it makes.
Maybe may car can't drive that K03 enought... |
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Some more pic of the car...
Before turbo.... http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8...returbo9lu.jpg I bought a KKK03 turbine for 210$ http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9...rbicsek7xe.jpg Then I have to change the ECU to a P28.. http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2858/cables2xy.jpg some ------- wires... But I finished 2days later.. http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5354/ecu1jo.jpg So here is the car without the bumper http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/883/icfr8um.jpg The Fiat cooler fits fine, it was 40$ http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/7...otready7pw.jpg And here is my home made AFR unit... :) it cost 10$ and it can show approx values about the AFR... http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/7090/afr3vr.jpg |
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thats sweet... talk about doing it yourself. yea my friend has an A4 with a K04 which is an upgrade of the K03, he starts to boost around 2200 and starts to lose boost around 6000-6200. so you're still using the most of it.
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im loving the HM A/F R unit, tell me how to make one!!!!! many props for u man. HMT showing the world how it is done!!!!!!
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I have done a little modification... The 0 - 100kmph time is 8,5s ... it was only 9,7 in the past..
The car runs with 0,5Bar boost... |
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right up on the HM meter!!!!!!!! :y
...............please...... ::) |
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Hey man, good job on that hmt setup! You spent $210 on that turbo? You should look around ebay sometimes, I watched a td04 turbo with only 1500 miles sell for $160 the other day, and it also had the oil and water lines, I think that turbo would be better for your car. And if it's running out of boost before redline it's not because your car isn't spitting enough exhaust, it's most likely because the turbine is spinning too fast to be efficient...
Great job, how bout a write up on your homemade a/f like the others said :) |
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$210 for a new turbo, I wouldn't complain.
The 1.8T makes 150hp from the factory, so it should be fine for your application. You just may need to put in a closed loop or rpm referenced boost controller. The pressure in the exhaust manifold is probably forcing the wastegate open. Either that or you have a restriction in your air inlet or a boost leak somewhere. |
Re: Finished my boosted 1.4 civic
Originally Posted by RotaryGeek
1.4i, damn ive never even heard of that. i now know honda has d14, d15, d16, d17,d18, b16, b17,b18, b20, b22, f20, f22. f23, h20, h22, h23........... ---- thats a lot of four bangers. oh, since you are the first person ive seen with a 1.4i and its turbo - mad props to you.
USDM = United States Domestic Market JDM = Japanese Domestic Market Some engines below were available in more than one market. EDM = European Domestic Market A-series 86+ A16A1 Accord 1.6 EDM 84-87 A18A1 Prelude USDM 85-89 A20 Accord CARB EDM USDM 86+ A20A1 Accord 2.0 EFI EX EDM USDM 86+ A20A2 Accord 2.0 EFI EX EDM 88-89 A20A3 Accord USDM 86+ A20A4 Accord 2.0 EXi B-series 1996 1.5 L B15 (Honda City - Asia) SOHC VTEC and SOHC non-VTEC 89-92 B16A Civic SiR JDM 90-93 B16A Integra RSi/XSi JDM 92-95 B16A Civic SiR II JDM 89-92 B16A1 Civic VT EDM 90-91 B16A1 Civic SiR JDM 91-95 B16A2 Civic Vti EDM 99-00 B16A2 Civic Si USDM 94-97 B16A3 Del Sol VTEC USDM 94-97 B16A3 Del Sol Vti-T EDM 94-97 B16A3 Del Sol Vti-T EDM 96-00 B16A4 Civic SiR II JDM 97-01 B16B Civic Type-R JDM 92-93 B17A1 Integra GS-R USDM 90-91 B18A1 Integra GS USDM 92-93 B18A1 Integra GS USDM 94-95 B18B1 Integra USDM 96-00 B18B1 Integra USDM 95-97 B18C Integra GS-R JDM 96-00 B18C Integra Type R JDM 94-00 B18C1 Integra GS-R USDM 95-9 B18C3 Integra Type R JDM 97+ B18C4 Civic 1.8 Vti EDM 97;98;00 B18C5 Integra Type R USDM 96+ B18C6 Integra Type R JDM 96+ B18C7 Integra Type R JDM 87-89 B20 Accord 2.0i EDM 85-87 B20A1 Prelude Fi EDM 86+ B20A1 Prelude 2.0i EDM 87+ B20A2 Accord 2.0i EX EDM 90-91 B20A3 Prelude 2.0 S USDM 88+ B20A4 Prelude 2.0 90-91 B20A5 Prelude 2.0 Si USDM 88-89 B20A5 Prelude Si USDM 87-92 B20A7 Prelude 2.0i EDM 88+ B20A8 Accord 2.0i EDM 87-92 B20A9 Prelude 4WS 2.0i EDM 97-98 B20B CR-V USDM 97+ B20B3 CR-V RD1 EDM 97-98 B20B4 CR-V B20Z SMX JDM 90-91 B21A1 Prelude Si USDM D-series 1991 1.4 L D14 (Civic) 1993 1.5 L D15b2 (Civic) VTEC-E 1993 1.6 L D16 (Civic/Integra) VTEC-E/VTEC-II 2001 1.7 L D17 (Civic) VTEC-E/VTEC-II E-series 1973 1.2 L EB (Civic) 1975 1.5 L ED (Civic) CVCC 1976 1.6 L EF (Accord) 1980 1.3 L EJ (Civic) 1979 1.8 L EK (Accord/Prelude) 1980 1.5 L EM (Civic) CVCC 1984 1.4-1.5 L EW4 (Civic) 1983 1.8 L ES (Accord/Prelude) 1985 1.8 L ET (Prelude) 1984 1.3 L EV (Civic) 1984 1.5 L EW (Civic/CRX) F-series 1988 2.0 L F20 (Accord) VTEC 1990 2.2 L F22 (Accord/Prelude/CL) VTEC & Non-VTEC 1998 2.3 L F23 (Accord/CL) VTEC F20C 2000 2.0 L F20C (S2000) VTEC G-series 1996 2.5 L G25 (TL) H-series 92-96 H22A PreludeVTEC JDM 94-97 H22A AccordSiR JDM 97-01 H22A PreludeSiR JDM 97-01 H22A PreludeType S JDM 97-01 H22A AccordType R JDM 92-96 H23A1 PreludeSi; SE USDM 93-96 H22A1 PreludeVTEC USDM 97-01 H22A4 PreludeUSDM 97-01 H22A4 PreludeSHUSDM 97-01 H22A5 PreludeEDM 97-01 H22A7 AccordEuro R EDM 92-96 H23A2 PreludeAccord 2.3i EDM 93+ H23A3 Accord2.3l EDM J-series 1998 1.6 L J (HR-V) 1998 1.6 L JS (HR-V) 2001 1.6 L JS4 (HR-V) VTEC K-series (03+) 01+ K20A Integra TYPE-R; Civic TYPE-R; Accord Euro R JDM 01-04 K20A2 RSX Type S USDM 01+ K20A3 Integra IS JDM 01+ K20A3 RSX Base, Civic Si USDM 03+ K24A Accord; Accord Wagon JDM 03+ K24A2 TSX 200 USDM (03+) 02+ K24A3 CRV; Element; Accord 05+ K20Z1 RSX Type S USDM (07+) K23A1 RDX 06+ K20Z3 Civic Si L-series 2001 1.3 L L13A (Fit/Jazz) - engine marketed as 1.4L in certain regions 2002 1.2 L L12A (Jazz) 2002 1.5 L L15A (Fit/Fit Aria/Airwave/Mobilio) Circle L - General Motors/Isuzu 1.7 L Diesel R-series 2006 1.8 L R18A1 (Honda Civic) i-VTEC [edit] Honda V6 engines C-series - 90° SOHC/DOHC 1985 2.0 L C20 (Honda Legend) 1986 2.7 L C27 (Legend/Accord) 1991 3.0 L C30 (NSX) 1991 3.2 L C32 (Legend/TL/NSX) 3.5 L C35 (RL) J-series - 60° SOHC 2.5 L J25 (Inspire/Saber) 3.0 L J30 (Accord/CL) 3.2 L J32 (TL/CL) 3.5 L J35 (Odyssey/MDX) |
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it is from wikipedia, and now that i look at it, i really dont think that some of those are correct---
R18 motor? JDM b18c3? |
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i could be wrong, won't surprise me if i am, but isn't the r series engine in the new civics? Kinda like a successor to the d series...maybe it was deisel...dunno but I read about some r series engines somewhere.
EDIT: oh sorry just looked through the list of engines, yeah like I said it's on the new civics :) |
Re: Finished my boosted 1.4 civic
Originally Posted by baldur
$210 for a new turbo, I wouldn't complain.
The 1.8T makes 150hp from the factory, so it should be fine for your application. You just may need to put in a closed loop or rpm referenced boost controller. The pressure in the exhaust manifold is probably forcing the wastegate open. Either that or you have a restriction in your air inlet or a boost leak somewhere. I have done a home made boost controller, and the boost was goning low, before the redline.. The last month my homemade boost controller is damaged.. It don't do nothin.. The boost at 7000RPM was over 1 Bar.. So the turbine will be fine, I think, but I need a correct Boost controller.. Or the Wastegates spring is weak, and it opens at higher exhaust pressures.. I have done new pictures, It will coming soon.. |
Civic ESI was slow... :)
So my car has a lots of weight, the built in subwoofers, the +88Ah battery, so it is not a drag machine...
There was a "streetrace" and I catch a lightened and chipped D16Z6 car.. :) I run in Open loop, @0,4Bar... I going to go to a drag race, I hope I can run below 16s on 1/4 mile.. |
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how did u do that a/f meter?
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Re: Finished my boosted 1.4 civic
Originally Posted by TurbodEG
how did u do that a/f meter?
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It is a Voltage Unit.. The Stock narrow band O2 sensor produces 0 - 1 V .. This Voltage unit monitoring the O2 sensors value.. It is a chep and quick solution.. The O2 sensor has 4 wire.. The signal wire and the GND connected to the unit.. The Voltage unit has an external battery, because the GND is common, and it generates bad values..
So I did this because the AFR unit is so expensive, and I got a turbo, so It was very helpful.. I didn't see it on google, I did it myself.. "It was simple like a wooden peg... " |
Re: Finished my boosted 1.4 civic
nice setup! how many Hp you think are making with this setup?
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Re: Finished my boosted 1.4 civic
Originally Posted by Walter
nice setup! how many Hp you think are making with this setup?
If the boost value is higher (not tested yet) I may more aggressive.. :) |
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1/4 mile 15,76s @ 0,6 Bar ... It will be better...
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You forgot D13(carb)
88-95 EDM civic :P
Originally Posted by ComptonsF1NEST
lol
USDM = United States Domestic Market JDM = Japanese Domestic Market Some engines below were available in more than one market. EDM = European Domestic Market A-series 86+ A16A1 Accord 1.6 EDM 84-87 A18A1 Prelude USDM 85-89 A20 Accord CARB EDM USDM 86+ A20A1 Accord 2.0 EFI EX EDM USDM 86+ A20A2 Accord 2.0 EFI EX EDM 88-89 A20A3 Accord USDM 86+ A20A4 Accord 2.0 EXi B-series 1996 1.5 L B15 (Honda City - Asia) SOHC VTEC and SOHC non-VTEC 89-92 B16A Civic SiR JDM 90-93 B16A Integra RSi/XSi JDM 92-95 B16A Civic SiR II JDM 89-92 B16A1 Civic VT EDM 90-91 B16A1 Civic SiR JDM 91-95 B16A2 Civic Vti EDM 99-00 B16A2 Civic Si USDM 94-97 B16A3 Del Sol VTEC USDM 94-97 B16A3 Del Sol Vti-T EDM 94-97 B16A3 Del Sol Vti-T EDM 96-00 B16A4 Civic SiR II JDM 97-01 B16B Civic Type-R JDM 92-93 B17A1 Integra GS-R USDM 90-91 B18A1 Integra GS USDM 92-93 B18A1 Integra GS USDM 94-95 B18B1 Integra USDM 96-00 B18B1 Integra USDM 95-97 B18C Integra GS-R JDM 96-00 B18C Integra Type R JDM 94-00 B18C1 Integra GS-R USDM 95-9 B18C3 Integra Type R JDM 97+ B18C4 Civic 1.8 Vti EDM 97;98;00 B18C5 Integra Type R USDM 96+ B18C6 Integra Type R JDM 96+ B18C7 Integra Type R JDM 87-89 B20 Accord 2.0i EDM 85-87 B20A1 Prelude Fi EDM 86+ B20A1 Prelude 2.0i EDM 87+ B20A2 Accord 2.0i EX EDM 90-91 B20A3 Prelude 2.0 S USDM 88+ B20A4 Prelude 2.0 90-91 B20A5 Prelude 2.0 Si USDM 88-89 B20A5 Prelude Si USDM 87-92 B20A7 Prelude 2.0i EDM 88+ B20A8 Accord 2.0i EDM 87-92 B20A9 Prelude 4WS 2.0i EDM 97-98 B20B CR-V USDM 97+ B20B3 CR-V RD1 EDM 97-98 B20B4 CR-V B20Z SMX JDM 90-91 B21A1 Prelude Si USDM D-series 1991 1.4 L D14 (Civic) 1993 1.5 L D15b2 (Civic) VTEC-E 1993 1.6 L D16 (Civic/Integra) VTEC-E/VTEC-II 2001 1.7 L D17 (Civic) VTEC-E/VTEC-II E-series 1973 1.2 L EB (Civic) 1975 1.5 L ED (Civic) CVCC 1976 1.6 L EF (Accord) 1980 1.3 L EJ (Civic) 1979 1.8 L EK (Accord/Prelude) 1980 1.5 L EM (Civic) CVCC 1984 1.4-1.5 L EW4 (Civic) 1983 1.8 L ES (Accord/Prelude) 1985 1.8 L ET (Prelude) 1984 1.3 L EV (Civic) 1984 1.5 L EW (Civic/CRX) F-series 1988 2.0 L F20 (Accord) VTEC 1990 2.2 L F22 (Accord/Prelude/CL) VTEC & Non-VTEC 1998 2.3 L F23 (Accord/CL) VTEC F20C 2000 2.0 L F20C (S2000) VTEC G-series 1996 2.5 L G25 (TL) H-series 92-96 H22A PreludeVTEC JDM 94-97 H22A AccordSiR JDM 97-01 H22A PreludeSiR JDM 97-01 H22A PreludeType S JDM 97-01 H22A AccordType R JDM 92-96 H23A1 PreludeSi; SE USDM 93-96 H22A1 PreludeVTEC USDM 97-01 H22A4 PreludeUSDM 97-01 H22A4 PreludeSHUSDM 97-01 H22A5 PreludeEDM 97-01 H22A7 AccordEuro R EDM 92-96 H23A2 PreludeAccord 2.3i EDM 93+ H23A3 Accord2.3l EDM J-series 1998 1.6 L J (HR-V) 1998 1.6 L JS (HR-V) 2001 1.6 L JS4 (HR-V) VTEC K-series (03+) 01+ K20A Integra TYPE-R; Civic TYPE-R; Accord Euro R JDM 01-04 K20A2 RSX Type S USDM 01+ K20A3 Integra IS JDM 01+ K20A3 RSX Base, Civic Si USDM 03+ K24A Accord; Accord Wagon JDM 03+ K24A2 TSX 200 USDM (03+) 02+ K24A3 CRV; Element; Accord 05+ K20Z1 RSX Type S USDM (07+) K23A1 RDX 06+ K20Z3 Civic Si L-series 2001 1.3 L L13A (Fit/Jazz) - engine marketed as 1.4L in certain regions 2002 1.2 L L12A (Jazz) 2002 1.5 L L15A (Fit/Fit Aria/Airwave/Mobilio) Circle L - General Motors/Isuzu 1.7 L Diesel R-series 2006 1.8 L R18A1 (Honda Civic) i-VTEC [edit] Honda V6 engines C-series - 90° SOHC/DOHC 1985 2.0 L C20 (Honda Legend) 1986 2.7 L C27 (Legend/Accord) 1991 3.0 L C30 (NSX) 1991 3.2 L C32 (Legend/TL/NSX) 3.5 L C35 (RL) J-series - 60° SOHC 2.5 L J25 (Inspire/Saber) 3.0 L J30 (Accord/CL) 3.2 L J32 (TL/CL) 3.5 L J35 (Odyssey/MDX) |
Re: Finished my boosted 1.4 civic
semnos where the ---- have you been?
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A new picture 2006.06.24 on a drag race...
The time 15,76s @1/4 mile.. http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4673/imgg1gt.jpg So, I hope it will be more powerful.. |
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