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B16CRXT 04-21-2005 09:52 PM

Finally boosted :)
 
1991 CRX Si.
engine and mod list:

B16A
62mm TB
2.5" DP, going to a 3" exhaust next week.
T3 .48/.60
Home made short tubular manifold
SSautochrome 38mm wastegate
Autometer EGT gauge
Autometer Phantom Boost gauge
Autometer dual pillar pod
Stock Crossmember ;) (plenty of room to put a 3" Dp in)
Vaccum manifold
Greddy Type-S BOV
2" charge pipe from turbo to FMIC
2.5" pipes from FMIC to TB
2.5" turbine CAI
DSM 450cc injectors
Walboro 255lph fuel pump
GM 2 bar map sensor
PS9 ECU---Turbo Edit
Full throttle launch @ 4K
Hasport motor mounts
NGK BKR7E-11 Spark plugs
OEM Wires
New Distributor King dist.
FMIC 25x5x2.5" core
JDM armrest
Brembo slotted rotors
Rear lower tie bar
Grant GT sterring wheel
Momo shift knob
Skunk2 dual bend shifter
17" Shu's with Wanli 205/50Z/R17 tires
Pioneer MP3 player and Kenwood 3 way stock replacement speakers.

A few pics of the turbo progress...PICS WILL BE UPDATED PERIODICALLY...enjoy 8)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...8/f4635971.jpg
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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...2/f4635974.jpg
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http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...2/f463596c.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...2/f4635969.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...f/f463596b.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...f/f4769f27.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...2/f4769f1a.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

Im having a problem with building boost for some reason though...can anybody help me?

EDIT: When vaccum line is on side port of wastegate to the vaccum manifold, boost builds slowly to 2 psi ans no hihger. Decreases when in vtec.

With no vaccum lines on wastegate, it builds boost quickly and easily. I let it quickly build to 3 or 4 and let off at partial throttle.

I thinkg that maybe teh wastegate is opening up early for some reason

FooK 04-21-2005 09:57 PM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 
b16a TypeR eh? neener neener. :-*

post the problem here, dont make us go to honda-tech.

david_jones001 04-21-2005 09:59 PM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 
ht licks balls anyways

Jigga man 04-21-2005 10:02 PM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 

no fuel management as of right now
------- retard. Don't ask "Why isn't my ---- running right" if you're not using any fuel management. ::) God damn some people are dumb........

HondaTuner 04-21-2005 10:04 PM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 

Originally Posted by Jigga man

no fuel management as of right now
------- retard. Don't ask "Why isn't my ---- running right" if you're not using any fuel management. ::) God damn some people are dumb........

In his post on H-T he says no fuel management, but here he says PS9 ECU---Turbo Edit ? ???

silverac 04-21-2005 10:05 PM

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nice .I like the car and set up

B16CRXT 04-21-2005 10:07 PM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 

Originally Posted by Jigga man

no fuel management as of right now
------- retard. Don't ask "Why isn't my ---- running right" if you're not using any fuel management. ::) God damn some people are dumb........

dipshit. I didnt say its not running right. I said its not building boost. You have to test sometime. If it were boosting liek normal I wouldnt be driving it.

Jigga man 04-21-2005 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by B16CRXT

dipshit. I didnt say its not running right. I said its not building boost. You have to test sometime. If it were boosting liek normal I wouldnt be driving it.

Yes, I'm the dipshit running no fuel management. Just so you know, "not building boost" is a problem and I would consider it "not running right". Don't be so ------- dumb.

fork 04-21-2005 10:10 PM

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Don't tell us to go to ht to help with the problem with your home made turbo kit, I think it may be a problem with your jdm armrests though

B16CRXT 04-21-2005 10:10 PM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 

Originally Posted by FooK
b16a TypeR eh? neener neener. :-*

post the problem here, dont make us go to honda-tech.

long story short:

When vaccum line is on side port of wastegate to the vaccum manifold, boost builds slowly to 2 psi ans no hihger. Decreases when in vtec.

With no vaccum lines on wastegate, it builds boost quickly and easily. I let it quickly build to 3 or 4 and let off at partial throttle.

I thinkg that maybe teh wastegate is opening up early for some reason...no idea why though... ???

RedCavz 04-21-2005 10:14 PM

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Look at the maker of the wastegate. Maybe that will tell you why.

B16Drag 04-21-2005 10:19 PM

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RECHECK all clamps, RE-TIGHTEN all clamps, check leakage from BOV, block to exhaust manifold leakage...

My money is on a leak, or that SOB wastegate. Sounds like a leak to me though.

B16CRXT 04-21-2005 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by B16Drag
RECHECK all clamps, RE-TIGHTEN all clamps, check leakage from BOV, block to exhaust manifold leakage...

My money is on a leak, or that SOB wastegate. Sounds like a leak to me though.

at first I would have aggreed with you but since it builds boost soo easily with no lines to teh wastegate, that make sme belive there are no leaks and the wastegate is opening early. the top port is supposed to remain open when boost is being regulated by the WG spring right?

B16Drag 04-21-2005 10:36 PM

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top port should not be connected.

Could still be a leak if you BOV is slightly opening up or if the screw on it is loose. I dunno just check everything.

BoosTedZSix 04-21-2005 10:43 PM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 
did you try to connect the bottom port of the WG to the compressor side of the turbo?

btw: why are your wheels so damn big?..haha.and why are you running with no EMS? do you have money to throw away if you blow your motor?

micksf22accord 04-21-2005 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 98redcavz24
Look at the maker of the wastegate. Maybe that will tell you why.

trust me im not a homo you can ask your mom cause i just fucked her last night....she will vouch for me not being a "homo".....

FooK 04-21-2005 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by micksf22accord

Originally Posted by 98redcavz24
Look at the maker of the wastegate. Maybe that will tell you why.

trust me im not a homo you can ask your mom cause i just fucked her last night....she will vouch for me not being a "homo".....

what you just said was homo, thus confirming you're a homo.

micksf22accord 04-21-2005 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FooK

Originally Posted by micksf22accord

Originally Posted by 98redcavz24
Look at the maker of the wastegate. Maybe that will tell you why.

trust me im not a homo you can ask your mom cause i just fucked her last night....she will vouch for me not being a "homo".....

what you just said was homo, thus confirming you're a homo.


lol haha im not a homo i dont care if its in his sig lol peace man i dont care what you put in your sig.....lol

scottsi 04-22-2005 01:46 AM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 
so no feul management and youre running dsm 450cc's, anyone see something wrong there?

B16CRXT 04-22-2005 07:51 AM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 
450s arent in yet. im not an idiot. the problem is boost. NOT the car running/idling.

let me clue you guys in...

Teh 450's, gm map sensor, PS9 are not in yet. They will go in when I tune. I figured that was obvious enough.

BoosTedZSix 04-22-2005 12:07 PM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 
so did you try and run the bottom wastegate port to the compressor? you should never run the wastegate to another source unless your running a boost controller so take that ---- of the vacuum manifold and stick it onto the compressor

FooK 04-22-2005 01:21 PM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 
well you cant boost on a stock fuel system period. its called limp mode. duh. put your management system in

AgentMurdoc 04-22-2005 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FooK
b16a TypeR eh? neener neener. :-*

if it ain't a type r it ain't a tyte car. :D

koreanwilcox 04-22-2005 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AgentMurdoc

if it ain't a type r it ain't a tyte car. :D

VTEC baby... B 18 C 5!

....best song evar!1!

Oh, to the thread starter... did you make sure your vacuum mani is hooked up correctly, and to a strong vacuum source? If it worked when hooked up to your compressor but not when hooked up to the vacuum mani, maybe there is something wrong with the mani?

Which one do you have? You drilled out the ports right?

Jigga man 04-22-2005 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FooK
well you cant boost on a stock fuel system period. its called limp mode. duh. put your management system in

No -------, that's obviously not the problem. He's fine running no fuel management. You don't even need that ----. Let him think he knows what he's doing so I can laugh at him when he blows up his motor. ------- idiot.

When you get some fuel management come back and ask questions if it doesn't run right. This is ------- stupid. ::)

USS 04-22-2005 04:25 PM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 

Originally Posted by Jigga man

Originally Posted by FooK
well you cant boost on a stock fuel system period. its called limp mode. duh. put your management system in

No -------, that's obviously not the problem. He's fine running no fuel management. You don't even need that ----. Let him think he knows what he's doing so I can laugh at him when he blows up his motor. ------- idiot.

When you get some fuel management come back and ask questions if it doesn't run right. This is ------- stupid. ::)

You must ride a shorter bus on the way to kindergarden. He obviously has fuel managment, I don't see why you keep arguing, nobody cares.

Jigga man 04-22-2005 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Snafubmx234


You must ride a shorter bus on the way to kindergarden. He obviously has fuel managment, I don't see why you keep arguing, nobody cares.

Wow, you must be about the dumbest mother fucker on the face of the earth, dumber than the thread starter. What's wrong with you people? How ------- dumb can you get? :-\


Originally Posted by B16CRXT


Teh 450's, gm map sensor, PS9 are not in yet. They will go in when I tune. I figured that was obvious enough.

Dipshit.........

jinxy 04-22-2005 04:38 PM

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amazing everyones flameing this guy for fuel management and hes going to have it sooner or later. maybe he only wants to run 2-3 psi to see if hes got it working right. like any of you have never tottaly finished a project and wanted to check it out somewhat. Run the line to a diffrent source other than your manifold. use the compressor housing if it has a source. check the spring look at the waste gate to make sure all the bolts are tightend down and ----. maybe the springs tighend down to hard and its causing the wastegate to open before 1 psi of boost. make somthing to test it with a bycycle pump if you have to or test it with an aircompressor if you have one while its off. good luck

Jigga man 04-22-2005 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rawr
amazing everyones flameing this guy for fuel management and hes going to have it sooner or later. maybe he only wants to run 2-3 psi to see if hes got it working right.

Yeah, I was ------- this chick with AIDS without a condom on the other day. I had one, but I didn't put it on yet. Pretty smart, eh?

jinxy 04-22-2005 04:46 PM

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hes going to be fine on 2-3 psi.... thats not even realy equivlent to the presure of an elevation change as saying driving up in the mountians or driving down to death valley. the cars map sensor will take care of that. ---- not even equivlent to the dry shots of nitrous people run. he'll be fine sissy :-\

Jigga man 04-22-2005 04:53 PM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 

Originally Posted by rawr
hes going to be fine on 2-3 psi.... thats not even realy equivlent to the presure of an elevation change as saying driving up in the mountians or driving down to death valley. the cars map sensor will take care of that. ---- not even equivlent to the dry shots of nitrous people run. he'll be fine sissy :-\

Oh wow, this is getting better and better. You're saying he's good to go with no fuel management? You're an idiot. The stock ECU is not capable of producing more fuel to compensate for boost. The stock ECU cannot read positive manifold pressure. Please don't go ------ing your horseshit theories around. Are you going to pay for his fried ring lands?

Haven't you people read ANYTHING on this website? Let me do you a favor:
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?board=6.0

USS 04-22-2005 04:53 PM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 

Originally Posted by Jigga man

Originally Posted by Snafubmx234


You must ride a shorter bus on the way to kindergarden. He obviously has fuel managment, I don't see why you keep arguing, nobody cares.

Wow, you must be about the dumbest mother fucker on the face of the earth, dumber than the thread starter. What's wrong with you people? How ------- dumb can you get? :-\


Originally Posted by B16CRXT


Teh 450's, gm map sensor, PS9 are not in yet. They will go in when I tune. I figured that was obvious enough.

Dipshit.........

Alright, as all I read was the first post, then your little bitch fit. Why the ---- do you care so much? He's boosted, ---- hasn't broken. If you're going to bitch go to honda-tech, there's too much of it on here for little fucks like yourself.

jinxy 04-22-2005 04:59 PM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 

Originally Posted by Jigga man

Originally Posted by rawr
hes going to be fine on 2-3 psi.... thats not even realy equivlent to the presure of an elevation change as saying driving up in the mountians or driving down to death valley. the cars map sensor will take care of that. ---- not even equivlent to the dry shots of nitrous people run. he'll be fine sissy :-\

Oh wow, this is getting better and better. You're saying he's good to go with no fuel management? You're an idiot. The stock ECU is not capable of producing more fuel to compensate for boost. The stock ECU cannot read positive manifold pressure. Please don't go ------ing your horseshit theories around. Are you going to pay for his fried ring lands?

Haven't you people read ANYTHING on this website? Let me do you a favor:
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?board=6.0

psi at sea level = 14.7
psi at 6035 feet = 11.79 ish = colorado springs
psi at -280 feet = 14.9 ish = death valley

im sure hondas going to make a car that can ------- handle the presure changes at diffrent atmospheric levels wich is going to range on there sensor in about a -4 /+4 psi range if they didint there ------- cars wouldent work at diffrent elevations and would fail echecks if they could not correct the air to fuel ratio damn... its 2 psi he might hit +10hp with it ::)

Jigga man 04-22-2005 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Snafubmx234


Alright, as all I read was the first post, then your little bitch fit. Why the ---- do you care so much? He's boosted, ---- hasn't broken. If you're going to bitch go to honda-tech, there's too much of it on here for little fucks like yourself.

Haha, you got your ass handed to you, son. 8) It hasn't broken "YET". I loaded my revolver with 2 bullets and fired it 3 times at my head. It hasn't shot me "YET" so I should be fine according to you guys. ::) I don't see why you guys are trying to tell him he's ok to run with no fuel management. You guys have some learning to do. :-\ I would suggest spending more time in the "tech" sections of this website. :-\

Jigga man 04-22-2005 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rawr


psi at sea level = 14.7
psi at 6035 feet = 11.79 ish = colorado springs
psi at -280 feet = 14.9 ish = death valley

im sure hondas going to make a car that can ------- handle the presure changes at diffrent atmospheric levels wich is going to range on there sensor in about a -4 /+4 psi range if they didint there ------- cars wouldent work at diffrent elevations and would fail echecks if they could not correct the air to fuel ratio damn... its 2 psi he might hit +10hp with it ::)

This explains alot:


Originally Posted by rawr
drugs. gotta hate em gotta love em. allow me to do a hell of allot more things and make a hell of allot more money because people criple themselfs and bring themselfs down. ---- you can go idol in life and still come out on top. plus they create so many jobs. law enforcement. make the state a hell of allot more money lawyers. allow people who wouldent normaly have a chance who live in slums to make there money by expoiting the ones who like to refrain from sobriaty. at the same time. it takes my weaker friends away. oh well thats natural selection for you. smoke up kids! someone out there needs to pay there rent!


The simple fact is YOU NEED FUEL MANAGEMENT TO SAFELY RUN A TURBO ON YOUR ------- CAR.

If you retards can't understand that then you need to get back to the basics.

jinxy 04-22-2005 05:08 PM

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So you attempt to discredit me due to my stance on alkaloids? Altercate if you will but do not bring my stance on narcotics and society into a quagmire based on running a miniscule ammount of presure into a motor bearing the orignal manufactures engine management. I find that quite proletariat of you sir.

USS 04-22-2005 05:09 PM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 

Originally Posted by FooK
well you cant boost on a stock fuel system period. its called limp mode. duh. put your management system in


Originally Posted by rawr
hes going to be fine on 2-3 psi.... thats not even realy equivlent to the presure of an elevation change as saying driving up in the mountians or driving down to death valley. the cars map sensor will take care of that. ---- not even equivlent to the dry shots of nitrous people run. he'll be fine sissy :-\

These are the two posts in the whole thread that say if boosting on the stock fuel system is okay or not okay. Fook is correct in saying that you cannot boost 6-7 pounds on the stock fuel system for long, however this guy is barely hitting 2-3.

Of course it's not "safe." There have been countless threads about fuel systems, and if you notice everybody tells everybody else to use uberdata, turbo edit... etc because it's better than an fmu, better than most engine managment systems out there. Nobody ever says FMU's are the best and safest way to go because let's all face it, they're not. What makes you think we're all complete idiots?

We don't need little girls like yourself bitching all the damn time. What are you trying to prove? He is going to get fuel managment, he obviously knows that it's not safe to boost a full 6-7 psi without it. Stop trying to prove your point cause you already have said what you needed to say. You're sounding like a broken record.


jinxy 04-22-2005 05:11 PM

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Also i was not refering to selling narcotics in my post. I was refering to the simple fact that they enable me to get a better job and have a better life since so many people disable there self from the get go. And it realy hinders the compitition.

micksf22accord 04-22-2005 05:14 PM

Re: Finally boosted :)
 

Originally Posted by Jigga man

Originally Posted by rawr


psi at sea level = 14.7
psi at 6035 feet = 11.79 ish = colorado springs
psi at -280 feet = 14.9 ish = death valley

im sure hondas going to make a car that can ------- handle the presure changes at diffrent atmospheric levels wich is going to range on there sensor in about a -4 /+4 psi range if they didint there ------- cars wouldent work at diffrent elevations and would fail echecks if they could not correct the air to fuel ratio damn... its 2 psi he might hit +10hp with it ::)


This explains alot:


Originally Posted by rawr
drugs. gotta hate em gotta love em. allow me to do a hell of allot more things and make a hell of allot more money because people criple themselfs and bring themselfs down. ---- you can go idol in life and still come out on top. plus they create so many jobs. law enforcement. make the state a hell of allot more money lawyers. allow people who wouldent normaly have a chance who live in slums to make there money by expoiting the ones who like to refrain from sobriaty. at the same time. it takes my weaker friends away. oh well thats natural selection for you. smoke up kids! someone out there needs to pay there rent!


The simple fact is YOU NEED FUEL MANAGEMENT TO SAFELY RUN A TURBO ON YOUR ------- CAR.

If you retards can't understand that then you need to get back to the basics.

WORD.........

Jigga man 04-22-2005 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
What makes you think we're all complete idiots?

We don't need little girls like yourself bitching all the damn time. What are you trying to prove? He is going to get fuel managment, he obviously knows that it's not safe to boost a full 6-7 psi without it. Stop trying to prove your point cause you already have said what you needed to say. You're sounding like a broken record.


You proved you were an idiot when you posted in this thread. Read the thread. You look pretty ------- dumb. :-\

What am I trying to prove? If I have to explain this to you at this point then society has failed and has let a mentally challenged man walk the earth with regular people. :-\

So he knows it's not safe? Ok, then go ahead and do it. Great idea.


Originally Posted by rawr
Also i was not refering to selling narcotics in my post. I was refering to the simple fact that they enable me to get a better job and have a better life since so many people disable there self from the get go. And it realy hinders the compitition.

It's funny how you're trying to sound smart, but you can't even complete a sentence without misspelling the whole god damned thing.

I'm done. You guys won't give in when you're dead wrong and I'm not about to start telling people it's ok to boost with no fuel management. Good luck to you. If you want me to stop replying, don't make another post directed towards me.


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