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trying to figure out how much my friend can boost, he wont tell me so im expecting his pushing the limit....how much boost can the factory evo 8 turbo blow. i believe its the 16g turbo.

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Ive seen a few guys on street boosting 16 psi, im sure they can go more, but i can vouch for that amount whatever it means to you.

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yea, ive been lookin around and found 24.2 pounds a couple of times. and those people where acting like hot ---- cause of it. the reason why i ask is i know he normally ran 23 pounds and occasionally and apparently he can turn it up some more. he has alcohol injection so the motors not knockin. im just wondering if the 16g can handle that much. im a semi-noob when it comes to turbos, just know the basics. i know you can hybrid them with different turbo parts, but is there anything they can to with that one to make it run that high.

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ya they can turn the boost way up the ecu retards the hell out of the timing and the turbo becomes very inneficent and they do not gain much power. evo8s are slow

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Evo 8's are slow? :S

Yeah, since a chip, exhaust and big IC pipes getting you low 12 second time slips, out hustling about anything at a road course, and then driving you to work everyday is slow and gay.

Evo 8's are incredible.


But back on topic. You can easily boost the stock turbo to 24-25psi if you have the proper fuel, tuning, and cooling setup. Otherwise you're wasting time.

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evo's are slow and gay :y

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and their winds are gay..lol i had to jump on the bandwagon

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dont they have it set at 16 or 18 stock?

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I think 18. I know the STI has it set to 15 stock and rememeber hearing the evo is set higher.

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i cant remember but i think its 18 stock. my buddy has one. and yes that ---- is slow. from a dead stop ofcouse its gonna launch hard. but from the top of second and on its slow :y

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i dont consder a mid 13 sec car slow ;)

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you forgot clutch, because you do any mod to that car and the clutch will slip like ----, stock clutch blows major major ass. and have fun changing that clutch out, gotta drop the front crossmember

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speaking of clutches. my homeboy's clutch gave out. and his is just a bone stock evo :o im talking about slow from a roll bd. not from a dead stop. ;)

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those clutches are funny - you do a good 5k launch while slipping the clutch and it will be toast in a matter of 4 times.

I have watched many people though run the stock clutch and still be ok.

my friends evo ran 12.8 with a different intercooler and exhaust with an mbc (holding at stock boost or 19 psi.. the boost bleeds off up top when they are stock)

another friends ran a 12.2 (he sucks at launching) and he has a intercooler, exhaust, mbc, cams and a clutch. running 24 psi. no tuning

expensive way to start out, imo. but they are fun to ride in modified, especially around the turns..

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::)

if you like to handle like a boxcar on wheels. they can run a low twelve launching at 7k rpms and blowing that trans into 7k peices at the same time.

or you could buy a cobra and beat it at the drag strip and the road course

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or buy a vette and beat both of them

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Is the Evo8 the newest one? I know a kid that has one that is stock faster. No wing, No radio, just faster and cheaper actually. 19psi stock I think. He's on like 22psi right now, but I guess alot of those crazy DSM peeps go to like low 30psi.


JP

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I bet he is running 20.

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I saw one in a mag that was running near 30, but it was fully built with water injection and such

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my gf has an evo 8, it runs 19.5 - 20 psi stock, i think the stock turbo can boost up to 35 psi

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anyone thinking about boosting 35psi will probably already have changed the stock turbo


but thats not what i really want to focus on. You said gf in a post.. i think it is an unwritten rule that pics, coughnakedcough must be shown... i did it when i mentioned mine, I am just keeping the trend going.. ;)

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I do, cause I think my car is slow :P

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i havn't seen an evo here run better than a 9.3 in the 8th which isn;t that great, a 5th gen civic with a turbo ls beat it lol. i have a video but dunno how to put it on the comp

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they push 19 psi in stock form .. a 19 psi waste gate spring .. the boost falls off though .. it wont push 19 too redline

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go to that evolutionm.net or whatever the site is and ask for a more accurate anwser. We all cant afford an evo so we honestly are just making an edcuated guess. if you have the right fuel management and efficency, you can boost the ---- out of any motor.


in johnnys world...if every car was a mustang it would be everything. the fact is, he had to make his a twin turbo to make it fast and hand with the hondas. ;)

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did you mean hang with hondas? if you did you are crazy. honda/acura has never made a car as fast as my stang is now or even close ::)

i ran stock as fast as most boosted stock engine honda runs :S

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i smoke evo's all day long :6

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i agree on all accounts, and where were the pics of your g/f.. i somehow missed that thread!!!! :S

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NO JOHNNY...im sayin your 100% biased on your "V-8" cars. Some mfg's are bringing out some pretty powerful 4cyl and you cant argue that fact. That evo stock would out preform your stock stang in more ways than 1. ----, I think it would run pretty dam close to the cobra your talkin about as well...I would put money on it. Im talkin everything from a solomn to the 1/4.

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no the evo8 and 03+ svt cobras are not close straight line fast.

the cobra is much much faster, and consequently around a road course would also be faster.

my fox is 17 years old. id hope a car that is brand new and costs 3x as much as mine did new would out perform it.

the EVO MR has 276 CRANK hp, 286 CRANK tq. 3200lbs

and the 03 svt cobra has 380hp at the wheels and 380tq at the wheels. 3600lbs

the new 06 GT mustang makes more power, more torque, weighs aprox the same, has all the luxuries the MR doesnt... and costs almost 15k less

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I know for a fact the 03 mustangs are underated but i also know for a fact they dont make 390 to the wheels if anything they are rated between 350-370

on a road test the evo and sti 1/4 was faster than an 03 svt

03 svt cobra
http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coup...et/index3.html



03 evo and sti
http://motortrend.com/roadtests/seda...ub/index2.html

with a very few mods the sti will own the cobra with it being awd and the power of weight ratio heres a vid. Its rated at 338 to the wheels but its quarter mile is quicker than the cobra. If the cobra claiming to make 380 to the wheels is kinda sad when it
only hits low 13's or high twelves. I know that STI isn't stock and the bost was increased to 7psi but that pretty impressive. :y

http://mzmperformance.com/videos/mzm_1168.wmv


now im not saying that a better driver can't get a better time with a 03 cobra but its been listed the STI being quicker in the quarter mile if not the same as the 03 Cobra. Which also maked the 03 cobra look bad when its rated more hp than the STI to the wheels. ;) :-*





and how will a cobra outhandle and evo when an evo is a rally car??? ???

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the trapped almost 5mph faster than the STi and EVO. the only reason EVOs and STis can manage decent 1/4 times is because of the 7k awd launch. they are not powerful. and ive seen a dyno graph of a supposedly stock svt cobra and it dyno'd 383hp and 380tq

you can get as much or more power per $ with the cobra. with a change of the pulley and some exhaust they can make 500rwhp

i can garentuee stock for stock the cobra would put cars on both the evo and STi. If they were all put up on a road course itd probably be all the same. i dont think the cobra would be fast enough to leave them both on any straights.

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oh i agree with you 100% that they are that quick in a 1/4 because of them being awd but they are pretty quick cars.

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eh ya they are pretty fast. i would never pay that much for one.

ive never seen one muster a low 13 w/o a really hard launch... completly stock.

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hard launch...its AWD. is there any other way?

and paying that much...I wouldnt pay that much for a SVT cobra either. Im sure you would.

and the evo and sti does own. its proven. numbers dont lie.

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ya they own other imports.

i betcha a 06 GT mustang would out accelerate those things

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sorry can't help my self

sti-i think are slow

evo-MR only is pretty quick and has alot of potential..but the 07 EVO is coming out with their own vtec..which supposed to boost power to 297hp and will open lot of tuning doors..

03-04 cobra..now my buddy who is a honda tech and has a turbo civic has a 03 with every bolt-on they make and ported stock blower..all upgrades done himself and running his own fuel maps..car dynoed 657 hp and little over 600 lbs of torque, he has full interior, and a/c and he never never power shifts it ..the car runs 10.8 last time before he snapped his stock drive shafts..and pulls like a ------- missile..
and his total upgrade cost are only 7600.00 for everything
when you here that ------- blower whine up, and you get thrown back, you will ---- in your pants.. one thing everyone forgets is that everypart on the 4.6 mod motor is forged, even the crank..that is ------- unheard of by domestic manufacturer..

sure evo and even sti will probably take a cobra on rally course, but on the straights on modded cobra with 7000.00 in upgrades vs. 7000.00 in upgrades on evo or sti ..
cobra will put a whoppin' on them..

if you dont belive me check the mustang forums Ford SVT nicknamed the
03-04 " The Terminator"

oh and he plans on going twin turbo, he is ------- crazy

sorry had to fix it was 657 not 567

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why would u put 7000 on either car? im pretty sure you dont need that much to make both cars super quick....

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what kind of statement is this? why put 7k into a car? to make it faster and faster :P

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actually weight is a big factor.. for as much power as he is making his car is still pretty ------- heavy ..power to weigh ratio..

and really man 7000.00 is not much when you think of the options

he bought the car for 24500.00 cash
upgrades 7000.00
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31500.00 total price for a 10 second car..with full interior and ac

compare to new Z06 corvette ,Ford GT, Dodge Viper,Porsche...and so on..

price for performance is far better than any car out there
one thing though is that he did all work himself..so if not add 10000.00
and you are looking at 41500.00
oh and his car can be easily tuned to pass emissions and still gets 15 mpg

think about it..name one new car with leather , ac, looks good, insurance is not ridiculously high, gets decent gas mileage(think from performance stand point), and does not draw alot of attention from the cops?