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jinxy 05-14-2006 03:57 PM
Re: Ethanol in gasoline...how does it affect?
 
Originally Posted by redteg94
wrong, people want a cleaner fuel and burning ethanol is cleaner and cheaper. there is a few countries that only burn ethanol and no gas mixed in, they are dependent only on corn not crude oil.
Nice facts you backed that statement up with. Now wheres your facts. You need fosil fuel to produce ethanol. and i dont know of anywhere running a pure e100 fuel. some places are working on e95 but no e100. and you can make bio diesel out of just about any vegatation. where as ethanol is limited. and you cant grow corn all of the time. unless you just want to rape the ---- out of your soil. Nitrogen needs replacing.

jinxy 05-14-2006 04:02 PM
Re: Ethanol in gasoline...how does it affect?
 
Originally Posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol
. The largest national fuel ethanol industries exist in Brazil. The Brazilian ethanol industry is based on sugarcane; as of 2004, Brazil produces 14 billion liters annually, enough to replace about 40% of its gasoline demand. Also as a result, they announced their independence from Middle East oil in April 2006. Most new cars sold in Brazil are flexible-fuel vehicles that can run on ethanol, gasoline, or any blend of the two. In addition, all fuel sold in Brazil contains at least 25% ethanol.
100% eh? no fosil fuel needed?

redteg94 05-14-2006 04:11 PM
Re: Ethanol in gasoline...how does it affect?
 
Our conclusion is that under the vast majority of conditions, the amount of energy contained in ethanol is significantly greater than the amount of energy used to make ethanol, even if the raw material used is corn.

http://www.carbohydrateeconomy.org/l...a_Gallon_.html

redteg94 05-14-2006 04:18 PM
Re: Ethanol in gasoline...how does it affect?
 
but the real question is, do you still want your money goin over seas to other countries or do you want your money to stay over here? corn = domestic, 75% of crude = foriegn

jinxy 05-14-2006 04:27 PM
Re: Ethanol in gasoline...how does it affect?
 
Originally Posted by redteg94
Our conclusion is that under the vast majority of conditions, the amount of energy contained in ethanol is significantly greater than the amount of energy used to make ethanol, even if the raw material used is corn.

http://www.carbohydrateeconomy.org/l...a_Gallon_.html
Ive seen conflicting data from both sides.

redteg94 05-14-2006 04:30 PM
Re: Ethanol in gasoline...how does it affect?
 
well in the end i rather get worse mpg and burn a cleaner fuel (no crude oil just pure ethanol) than to keep supporting others countries who supply us crude. even tho i know that our country will never be crude oil free

Tom-Guy 05-15-2006 09:25 AM
Re: Ethanol in gasoline...how does it affect?
 
Originally Posted by redteg94
wrong, people want a cleaner fuel and burning ethanol is cleaner and cheaper.
Show me how it's cheaper. Best case I've seen for it, it is equivalently priced by volume, but you need twice the volume...

B16Drag 05-15-2006 12:21 PM
Re: Ethanol in gasoline...how does it affect?
 
Is this the new fad?

Bone1 05-15-2006 12:42 PM
Re: Ethanol in gasoline...how does it affect?
 
new fad to pay more to fuel our cars.

to run E85 over E10, add 50-60% to your yearly fuel costs.

But it burns cleaner :(

Tom-Guy 05-15-2006 12:49 PM
Re: Ethanol in gasoline...how does it affect?
 
I want high energy hydrocarbon chains of high octane number readily available for a minor fee. That is all.


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