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Random Hero 05-02-2006 01:48 PM

Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
it was getting MAD wheelspin on the dyno, thats why it looks like it levels out and then spikes

http://i3.tinypic.com/x21b2d.jpg


The RPM pickup was off on the dyno.. i don't know why but it was being reved out to 9500~

Where it says 8500 = 9500 the squiglly line at the end is from bouncing off the rev limiter.

it gets 12 psi @ 5500 and then just slowly creeps to 17.. I need to relocate the wastegate.

BTW this was made THROUGH 3 inch CRUSH bent exhaust WITH A CAT

88crxSi 05-02-2006 01:58 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
what no video? ???


trq seems kinda low for a high hp motor... ? i was expecting 300+ tq? wait wait, 1.6 or 1.8?

samson 05-02-2006 01:59 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
Wow. That's darn good. We need some more pics/vids. :y


JP

Random Hero 05-02-2006 02:01 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by crx88Si
what no video? ???


trq seems kinda low for a high hp motor... ? i was expecting 300+ tq? wait wait, 1.6 or 1.8?


Like i said, its spinning the tires bad, Its a 2liter with a type r crank (reason for lower torque) but it would just spin them on the dyno so thats why too. just read what i wrote.

88crxSi 05-02-2006 02:03 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by Random Hero

Like i said, its spinning the tires bad, Its a 2liter with a type r crank (reason for lower torque) but it would just spin them on the dyno so thats why too. just read what i wrote.

i read it, thats why i asked. wheel spin looks to happen later in the curve (from the "flat then spike" you mentioned).

2.0 i thought would be way higher..

what gear, 4th? what trans?

J-SMITH69 05-02-2006 02:04 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
cool man, mayb e dyno with the slicks would help the wheelspin problem?

buk9tp 05-02-2006 02:10 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
this thread would be tits with a video :y

BoosTedZSix 05-02-2006 02:13 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
cant even read the freakin sheet

Random Hero 05-02-2006 02:17 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
it was 3rd, and I did not want to stress the motor and run 4th gear on the dyno, thats how headgaskets get blown, its almost like running a fat 5th gear pull.. We blew the race car's headgasket up doing 4th gear pulls. the torque is about right for a 2 liter. @ 17 psi.. It also had 6 month old gas in it so we did not want to push it any harder. maybe in a couple weeks i'll have my dad go lay down a 500+ on pump. but the goal was 450 and we hit it on the 4th pull.

J-SMITH69 05-02-2006 02:21 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by Random Hero
it was 3rd, and I did not want to stress the motor and run 4th gear on the dyno, thats how headgaskets get blown, its almost like running a fat 5th gear pull.. We blew the race car's headgasket up doing 4th gear pulls. the torque is about right for a 2 liter. @ 17 psi.. It also had 6 month old gas in it so we did not want to push it any harder. maybe in a couple weeks i'll have my dad go lay down a 500+ on pump. but the goal was 450 and we hit it on the 4th pull.

definatly need to dyno that bad boy 1:1 gear ratio

baldur 05-02-2006 02:27 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
If you manage to blow an engine on a 4th gear roller pull, that engine was never meant to be anyway.
Hell an engine that blows on a quarter mile run (which is considerably longer than most dyno pulls) is definitely poorly built.

J-SMITH69 05-02-2006 02:36 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by baldur
If you manage to blow an engine on a 4th gear roller pull, that engine was never meant to be anyway.
Hell an engine that blows on a quarter mile run (which is considerably longer than most dyno pulls) is definitely poorly built.

there is a lot more cylinder pressure lugging the engine through 4th on a load dyno, than bangin gears at high rpm

RedCavz 05-02-2006 02:55 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
badass numbers, whats your dad say?? :S

Random Hero 05-02-2006 03:23 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
there is a lot more cylinder pressure lugging the engine through 4th on a load dyno, than bangin gears at high rpm

exactly, its way different then on the road. the dyno rollers are 2000lbs each. thats like trying to move a 4000lb car. when the 4dr only weighs 2200

88crxSi 05-02-2006 03:29 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
even still the tires probably would hold in 4th. that they didnt in 3rd is not a surprise.

zplightning 05-02-2006 03:33 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
Lookin good Josh... I'm gonna have to come kick it soon and check it out, and not be a flake like the last couple times...

HMTguy 05-02-2006 03:34 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
Wish I was a baller.

rudebwoy 05-02-2006 03:37 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
great numbers. cant wait to get dynoed, just need to find one that supports more than 299ps

jacob_kohler 05-02-2006 03:46 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
Wish I was a baller.

Wish I was a little bit taller, wish I had a girl If I did I would call her

Random Hero 05-02-2006 03:49 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by crx88Si
even still the tires probably would hold in 4th. that they didnt in 3rd is not a surprise.

I know for sure it would hold in 4th. but i'm not going to stress the motor like that for some numbers to impress someone. I might hit up the dyno pack and finish the tuning there.

J-SMITH69 05-02-2006 03:51 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by Random Hero
I know for sure it would hold in 4th. but i'm not going to stress the motor like that for some numbers to impress someone. I might hit up the dyno pack and finish the tuning there.

trap speeds speak. dont need a dyno if you can produce good trap speeds

trickeng 05-02-2006 04:29 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
good job. great numbers.


Originally Posted by random-strike
definatly need to dyno that bad boy 1:1 gear ratio

why does he have to test 1:1??? HP doesn't care about the gear your in unless your testing on a dynojet which has shitty inertia compensation.


Originally Posted by Random Hero
I know for sure it would hold in 4th. but i'm not going to stress the motor like that for some numbers to impress someone. I might hit up the dyno pack and finish the tuning there.

stess the motor more???? do you mean build up to much heat?? dyno's do no stress motors because the motor is what creates all the load. the dyno is just the resistance to the load the motor is producing.


J-SMITH69 05-02-2006 04:34 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by trickeng
good job. great numbers.

why does he have to test 1:1??? HP doesn't care about the gear your in unless your testing on a dynojet which has shitty inertia compensation.

stess the motor more???? do you mean build up to much heat?? dyno's do no stress motors because the motor is what creates all the load. the dyno is just the resistance to the load the motor is producing.


bahaha

we got another turbod16 engineer here :1 :1 :1

i love laughing. keep it up trickeng

Random Hero 05-02-2006 04:49 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by trickeng
good job. great numbers.

why does he have to test 1:1??? HP doesn't care about the gear your in unless your testing on a dynojet which has shitty inertia compensation.

stess the motor more???? do you mean build up to much heat?? dyno's do no stress motors because the motor is what creates all the load. the dyno is just the resistance to the load the motor is producing.



You really really need to know what you are talking about first.


BTW this was made THROUGH 3 inch CRUSH bent exhaust WITH A CAT

RNPoo7 05-02-2006 04:52 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
I'm sorry, what motor is this?

Random Hero 05-02-2006 04:59 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
sleeved 2liter GSR.

RNPoo7 05-02-2006 05:04 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by Random Hero
sleeved 2liter GSR.

Very nice. What kind of sleeves are you running?

Where can I see your setup?

Random Hero 05-02-2006 05:39 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1582472

J-SMITH69 05-02-2006 05:48 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
lol

your T fitting break off yet?

Random Hero 05-02-2006 05:55 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
lol

your T fitting break off yet?

lol no

FooK 05-02-2006 07:26 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
What did your moms car dyno at?

X_Josh411_X 05-02-2006 07:50 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
how bout posting pics of the car at least ???

Slo_crx1 05-02-2006 08:14 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by jacob_kohler
Wish I was a little bit taller, wish I had a girl If I did I would call her

Damn...old school Skeelo right there...thought nobody even knew who that was anymore ;D

Random Hero 05-02-2006 08:35 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1582472

con 05-02-2006 11:01 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by trickeng


why does he have to test 1:1??? HP doesn't care about the gear your in unless your testing on a dynojet which has shitty inertia compensation.

stess the motor more???? do you mean build up to much heat?? dyno's do no stress motors because the motor is what creates all the load. the dyno is just the resistance to the load the motor is producing.


you just showed the world wide web you know ---- all, good job :1

BoosTedZSix 05-02-2006 11:05 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by trickeng
good job. great numbers.

why does he have to test 1:1??? HP doesn't care about the gear your in unless your testing on a dynojet which has shitty inertia compensation.

stess the motor more???? do you mean build up to much heat?? dyno's do no stress motors because the motor is what creates all the load. the dyno is just the resistance to the load the motor is producing.


are you implying that no matter what gear you dyno in you will get the same numbers? ???

baldur 05-03-2006 04:06 AM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
there is a lot more cylinder pressure lugging the engine through 4th on a load dyno, than bangin gears at high rpm

Your engine doesn't magically grow volumetric efficiency when you put it on a dyno.
Right, you have more heat buildup in the combustion chambers and more chance of detonation when the load is high but I haven't really seen any chassis dynos capable of holding any kind of load. You usually just get tire and/or cooling problems if you try to hold a steady load on a chassis dyno.
I tend to map my engines so they can survive fifth gear at full throttle uphill without detonating.

germ 05-03-2006 09:38 AM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
i want to see video of said car spining the tires on the dyno ::)

ive personally witnessed 700/700+ whp/wtq dyno runs and they dont spin the tires.


the ONLY way i see the tires spinning with that car is if you have bicycle tires or they guys that hooked up the car to the dyno used a jack to lift the car up so the contact patch was small :S


still, its pretty impressive the #'s you guys put down, i just doubt the tire spin store

baldur 05-03-2006 11:30 AM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 
I've seen a 400whp car spin the tires on a dyno, that was simply because it wasn't tied down properly. The guys in the shop had never dynoed a car that needed to be tied down so there was nothing in their floor to strap the car to.

germ 05-03-2006 02:27 PM

Re: Dynoed my dads car @ 17 psi
 

Originally Posted by baldur
I've seen a 400whp car spin the tires on a dyno, that was simply because it wasn't tied down properly. The guys in the shop had never dynoed a car that needed to be tied down so there was nothing in their floor to strap the car to.


never dyno'd a car that needed to be tied down :l ::)

yea, well, i dont know what dyno that one is, but i wouldnt ever go to that place, even if i had a moped :3

but you did prove part of my point, it was the guys that run the dyno shop that cause that to happen.

a properly setup car on a dyno will not spin the tires unless its just got a ton of power, like 1000 whp.

do i need to direct you to the TT Buick Regal that put up a smoke show on the dyno from spinning the tires??? im sure you guys have seen that and i seriously doubt the car being talked about in this thread is anywhere near the level of power that Regal was.

:-*


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