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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
im gonna start stocking up on weapons then
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
Originally Posted by lkailburn
haha you know i do it just to piss you off
random-strike - is it really nothing but slander,curse words and far-reached desperate attempts at painful comebacks? is that really all you have up your sleeve? you can't find it in you to have a grownup coversation? hey by the way what were we talking about europe? you never explained why the us dollar has plummeted in comparison. undergrad was Applied Networking and Systems Administration. Masters was Information Technology. Rochester institute of Technology. Princeton review ranks it above the top 15% of schools across the nation. U.S. News & World Report: America’s Best Colleges ranks RIT among the best again for 2007. -Luke you are dodging my questions, i've already won. you have no arguement. you admitted laws will not stop anyone. your moot point about detering crime is irrelevant, because the actual "gun law" does not deter the crime to be commited using the gun. if someone wants to commite a murder, but can't get a gun. they'll use a knife your only arguement is that you would feel better knowing at least someone took a course, at least there was a law, at least there is this and that. its all pointless... and for weak minded folks like yourself. to be appeased with a new law |
Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
Originally Posted by random-strike
so why are you touting your masters degree in a subject totally unrelated? why do you think it qualifies you on this subject more than anyone else?
you are dodging my questions, i've already won. you have no arguement. you admitted laws will not stop anyone. your moot point about detering crime is irrelevant, because the actual "gun law" deters the crime to be commited using the gun. your only arguement is that you would feel better knowing at least someone took a course, at least there was a law, at least there is this and that. its all pointless... and for weak minded folks like yourself. to be appeased with a new law i wasn't touting it though? you kept asking about it. we are really talking about multiple issues here. one is how to minimize accidental shootings. the other is how to minimize premeditated shootings. accidental shootings CAN be minimized by tests, courses etc. because the people involved weren't using their willpower to cause the event. rather it was their lack of knowledge or just plain dumbness that caused it. these types of incidents i really feel can be minimized by requiring people to take a test, and maybe like a 20 year refresher course on how to handle a weapon. not have them go to a course every year or some damn thing like that. but something to really remind those dumb people out there "hey, if you want to have weapons fine. but you better know how to secure them, properly handle them etc". your point about if there were no gun laws, then everyone would carry a weapon and deter criminals is also invalid. if they removed all laws, not everyone would go run to the gun store and start carrying. only a small percentage would start carrying. i bet the criminal is still going to take his chances. like we said, no one can control their willpower. -Luke |
Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
random-strike : is it time to agree to disagree? this is getting kind of tiring, i'm gonna stick to the tech forums. thats why i'm on this forum. to learn, and to help others.
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
Then why reply?
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Kain needs to save this thread...
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
Originally Posted by lkailburn
random-strike : is it time to agree to disagree? this is getting kind of tiring, i'm gonna stick to the tech forums. thats why i'm on this forum. to learn, and to help others.
-Luke its not your buisness, or the governments buisness if i know how to use a firearm or not. its my right as a united states citizen to keep and bear arms. wether or not i know how to "properly" use them. if you want government invading in every aspect of your life, thats fine. move to china or europe. i do not. its like saying if someone's car runs faster than 14 sec 1/4 the have to take a bunch of tests to make sure they can handle it, you gotta pay to take the test, carry around your little card that says you can drive that car, and pay to get it renewed all the time. guess what, now i'm the guy who decides if you pass the test or not, and i hate import cars... so now i'm going to make it nearly impossible for you to pass your test, i'll find any reason under the sun. they do the same thing with concealed carry. i never said if there was no gun laws everyone would carry a weapon, just those who feel the need to will, without restrictions. yes the restrictions are on law abiding people not criminals (criminals don't follow the law) i already posted the most in depth study ever done, showing a decrease in violence with the shall issues concealed carry laws. you never mention it... |
Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
no rights are 100% written in stone, welcome to the legal system
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
no rights are 100% written in stone, welcome to the legal system
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
Originally Posted by random-strike
no, its not.
its not your buisness, or the governments buisness if i know how to use a firearm or not. its my right as a united states citizen to keep and bear arms. wether or not i know how to "properly" use them. if you want government invading in every aspect of your life, thats fine. move to china or europe. i do not. no i don't want them invading every aspect of my life. stop jumping to radical conclusions (your damn words you hypocrit) its like saying if someone's car runs faster than 14 sec 1/4 the have to take a bunch of tests to make sure they can handle it, you gotta pay to take the test, carry around your little card that says you can drive that car, and pay to get it renewed all the time. guess what, now i'm the guy who decides if you pass the test or not, and i hate import cars... so now i'm going to make it nearly impossible for you to pass your test, i'll find any reason under the sun. they do the same thing with concealed carry. do you ever go to a drag strip? "Any car that runs an 8.49 and quicker requires that the driver wear a helmet. Any car that runs a 7.49 and quicker must have a minimum 4 point roll bar and a fire jacket. Any car that runs a 6.39 and quicker requires the driver to wear fire pants and jacket " here read this list of rules: http://www.clarksvillespeedway.com/d...rag%20htlm.htm they make rules for a reason man. to keep them safe? no. to keep you safe. omg caring for others those damn socialists. :S i don't think you should have to pay for the test btw. if they have tests i don't think you should pay. you're already paying for the gun. i never said if there was no gun laws everyone would carry a weapon, just those who feel the need to will, without restrictions. yes the restrictions are on law abiding people not criminals (criminals don't follow the law) Yes... you did. you kept stating that criminals would be deterred because EVERYONE WOULD HAVE A GUN. i already posted the most in depth study ever done, showing a decrease in violence with the shall issues concealed carry laws. you never mention it... you keep avoiding the studies i posted above? whats the deal? you avoided the fact that there are two topics we are discussing: accidental and premeditated. you avoided the point i brought about accidental shootings. you avoided the dollar vs euro conversion when you kept bashing europe and saying how it was degrading |
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