Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
 

Your license can get revoked for anything. Failure to show up for court, failure to pay child support, theres tons of little stupid things that will make your license become suspended

Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
 

yeap, anyone a big fatass liberal woman in washington thinks is bad for you

Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
 

If i respond to these statements are you going to respond to mine? like about how europe is such a degrading area...yet the U.S.dollar is plummeting in comparison to the Euro? or the fact that removing your license doesn't inhibate your ability to work? or that a society with NO governing body would fail to exist etc etc. all 3 damn pages of them lol


1. no. no one can control willpower. not even the god you worship. But removing or increasing gun laws will have no affect on this either. so how does it support your point? it doesn't. it simply proves people have willpower? which we already all knew. so bring something else to the table.

2. you obviously are afraid of government as much as i'm "afraid of guns" as you put it. again, i bring up the point of society. a society without any kind of guidelines is anarchy. no society can ever exist like that. so just because there is a government doesn't mean they will always chew up all your liberties. look at the constitution buddy. you love to quote from it. why don't you quote me the part about how the government exists SOLELY to serve its constituents. if the people are unhappy with the government they overthrow it and build a new one. governmental laws exist to protect its people. you can always play the well they'll take everything we have. but have they? no. how long have we had guns? have they taken a mile yet? nope.

3. show me the studies. lets see how many were done, where were they located? here's some more studies for ya:

National Academy of Science has found no evidence that shows right-to-carry laws have an impact, either way, on rates of violent crime

Child Access Prevention (CAP) laws, enacted by many states, require parents to store firearms safely, to minimize access by children to guns, while maintaining ease of access by adults.The National Bureau of Economic Research has found that CAP laws reduce non-fatal gun injuries among both children and adults by 30-40%

4. actually it doesn't. its 7th on the list. the other 6 in front of it even have varying city sizes, some smaller some larger so its not based on population either. you can play the what if game all you want but there is no way you can support your claim that "if everyone in dc was packing it would be safer". thats what i'm getting after. you have nothing to support your position that everyone should be able to just go buy a gun at the gas station with no checks, no tests, no anything.


Are we done yet?

-Luke

Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
 

im not talking about NO GOVERNMENT. way to jump to ridiculous conclusions.

i'm talking about very limited federal government, and a very limited government on the state and local level also.

1. god i worship? where did that come from? this does support my point, you're only punishing people who will abide by these laws, criminals will not. why do you want to punish me for doing nothing? why do you want to restrict my rights? you admit no law will ever stop anyone from doing anything, so why do you support them?

did you know being a queer greatly increases your chances of getting AIDS? should there be have a test before you can engage in gay sex? should every aspiring homosexual take a 5 hour course on how to not get AIDS? will not that stop them? I'm sure you're not concearned with this, it would be bigoted and insensitive to make them take a class on fag sex right?

2. yes i am very afraid of the government, why shouldn't I? they steal thousands of dollars from me every month, and then use that money against me. they try to control my life, and tell me its for my own good.
we're not talking about anarchy, we're talking about limited government, you know the way this country was... and the concepts and principals that made this country the greatest and most free ever on earth.

how can you say government will not take everything we have... look at nazi germany (socialists, they also confiscated firearms). look at the soviet union...

3. search google for those studies. and even if some law did stop some kid from killing himself with his pops gun who cares? its not my problem that someone's kid shot themself. personal responsibility and accountability, it should not be societies job to make sure people do not hurt themselves. if someones kid got their dads gun and shot your kid... this is why we have a court system. that person would be held liable civilly.

4. once again, use google. studies have shown more concealed carry equals less gun violence. if you knew every single person around you was carrying a firearm, WOULD YOU TRY TO ROB SOMEONE? too bad they didn't have a masters program in common sense. right now, you can go buy a long rifle with no check or test, only money. OMG THE WORLD IS ENDING, PEOPLE ARE SNIPIN' PEOPLE IN THE STREETS! I CAN'T EVEN WALK OUTSIDE BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE COMMITING CRIMES WITH LONG GUNS!

thinking a test or a firearm course will not stop firearms from being used in the wrong way is very naive. i can just picture someone sitting in a firearms course and coming to a realisation "ooohhh you're NOT supposed to shoot people... i get it now. :1"

Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
 

you say i jump to rediculous conclusions (no government) but you do the same thing? you say the government( being the U.S. government) will take everything they can from us "give an inch they give a mile". how long have we had guns in the u.s.? have they taken the mile yet? nope they haven't. they've only taken inches in the past hundreds of years because they do it to protect their constituents.

1. everyone has willpower no matter what. be it capitalist democratic or communism socialism. no it DOES not support your point because people have willpower. if no one carried a gun or everyone carried a gun the person can STILL choose to take out a weapon and shoot someone. if they want to do it they will. end of point

2. well we agree on one thing then? a society with no government is anarchy. but again look at OUR government. we live in the U.S. so we are talking about the U.S. government. have they taken away all your rights with guns? no. how long has it been? hundreds of years. are they really going to take "the whole mile" in your life time? nope. so you have nothing to worry about.

3. yes you can say well who cares about johnny's kid down the street who accidentally got shot. but what about when YOU get shot by johnny's kid. then what? your family will just look at you and say "meh oh well it wasn't me who got shot'. your friends will say "phew i'm glad i didn't get shot, its none of my business."

4. RE READ: National Academy of Science has found no evidence that shows right-to-carry laws have an impact, either way, on rates of violent crime

NO DIFFERENCE EITHER WAY.

therefore..if someone wants to commit the crime, they use their willpower and do it anyways. and stop jumping to ridiculous conclusions. if ALL limitations were removed, not everyone is going to carry. infact i bet you'd only see a small increased precentage. nothing like the 90% increase you jump to.

btw, yay for actually having a rebuttal more than 2 sentances long. there is finally some depth to this conversation lol.

-Luke

Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
 

Dear Jesus,
Please make Luke shut the ---- up.
Sincerely, Justin.
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Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
 

[random-strike] are you repressing my freedom of speech? are you a communist?!??! [/random-srtrike]


don't be pissed at me if you guys can't hold your own in a debate. go unwind your panties :'(

-Luke

Re: dumbascommitting sssssesssssssssss
 

you're wrong.

1. so why have the laws if you already admit they do nothing but restrict the rights of non criminals? yes there are still people who will try and rob or shoot me while i'm armed, but guess what. i'm armed and i can defend myself now. would you rather i stand there and take it like a metrosexual?

2. for having a masters degree in something you have a very hard time with reading comprehension. where did i say anything about 90%? they haven't been trying to take away firearms for hundreds of years, not even 100 years yet.

3. yes. nothing is perfect. this is the real world. no matter what you do, something can and will happen. i'd rather take that chance and live free than the other way around

your argument for more laws is that they having completely taken away firearms yet? that is absurd...

4. search for the University of Chicago Lott and Mustard concealed permit study.

its the most indepth study ever done.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/IS...9387712-550397

its only common sense that someone will be less likely to commit a crime if they know a good percentage of people around them are going to kill them the instant they try something.

Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
 

you can't be serious. l

ike i said, we can't debate emotions, which is what your half wit masters degree in faggotry opinions are based on.

you admit laws will not stop anyone, yet you still think they are great because it makes you feel better, AT LEAST THEY TOOK A TEST BEFORE THEY SHOT AND KILLED ME!

Re: dumbassssssesssssssssss
 

You're not worth any more of my time to reply to. I didn't even read your past 37 posts in this thread. You can kindly go ---- yourself and enjoy a life in fear of everybody and everything around you. Enjoy.
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