DSM shit the bed, who's placing bets? (3 options)
 

I let my friend drive to the store (because I was drunk and he wasn't) and heard a loud bang. No power, and a plume of smoke. :l We parked it and partied for the weekend. When I got back, it wouldn't start and it was obvious the engine seized.
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/mya...514f72e543.jpg
The #4 big-end con-rod bearing spun and blocked the oil port on the crank thus welding itself to said crank. Got a short block, Head, valve train, engine stand, greddy BOV, injectors fuelrail ect. for $400.00 :6
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/mya...c289ced761.jpg
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/mya...aa42ef9e16.jpg
So out with the old engine
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/mya...658774b185.jpg
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/mya...d4b94c81be.jpg
The new block and parts
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/mya...b8e2bb5ef6.jpg
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/mya...2429929747.jpg
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/mya...6049780ff9.jpg
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/mya...0eb8cb77c5.jpg
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Now the big question. How long do you ladies think this build will hold up before it takes a proverbial roadside dump? I give it 20 minutes... :8

Re: DSM shiting the bed, who's placing bets? (3 options)
 

i say two weeks not becuase of anything you did but because of the fact that it is made by mitsubishi

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Agreed. :-[

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i have never had so many problems as i did with my 1g dsm mitsu makes better tvs than cars hands down

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lol. yard ornament

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LOL. I'd say about half the electric/electronic components on sportbikes are Mitsu and they are pretty solid. DSM's seam to be electrically challenged from the factory. I think it's because they were made by Chrysler and their harnesses are doggy-fucked and gorilla-styled. O0

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The problem won't be in the DSM parts but rather the idiot putting them on the DSM. How the hell do you plan on tuning that fat ching chang turd once it's on? If it's a half-decent bottom end without a bazillion miles on it I give it up to the 350whp mark IF it's properly tuned all the way.

Oh, I hope you didn't put the balance shaft belt on there with the block turned upside down either and have fun getting all the alignment marks in their correct spots. I'd give it quite a while with a qualified DSM guy working on it, probably no more than 2 weeks if it's you.

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Hatin' on my supreme uncontrolled DSM knowledgeablities? Balance shafts removed foggot. DSMlink to tune, and here's some inside info: I've put engines together bitch-tits...a lot of them. But your complete lack of faith in my technical abilites is only overshadowed by your homosexuality and ignorance to the fact that this thread was formatted for humor. (This is a prodominately Honda site and I was ripping on DSM's)
Seriously though, do us all a favor and never breed.

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i dont miss my tsi one bit money pits . .

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Someone's got their thong up their ass too tight there Tough-Gay :-*

You never once mentioned balance shafts removed, and according to the one pic with the motor upside down it still has the balance shaft belt on it. And I'd take on your uncontrolled DSM wannabe knowledge any day bitch-shits and cram it back up your ass with my unleashed Honda/DSM/Subaru building and tuning knowledge. And trying to overshadow your homosexual ways with the "predominantly" Honda comment just goes to show the average age and income on here, not the knowledge base. Don't ---- with the old guy. ;)

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Uh oh, someone's having their period. :l You are the old guy? Well someone get me a goddamn wheel chair. Don't bring your little baby nuts in this thread just to talk ---- princess. Go back to bed and spoon with (original) Widebooty93 fag-bag.

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i've been a h-t member for the last 4 years and conversations over there are NEVER this funny. haha. but since i'm the guy to resolve things..

1. slo_crx1.. thanks for the info about the shaft belt, but please dont be completely rude about it
2. tough-guy.. good comebacks. and i know this thread was meant for funnies.. but some guys *cough* slo_crx1 *cough* dont have much sense of humor
3. if thats a ebay turbo.. my money says it takes a ---- very fast.

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I voted I hated you, even though I don't. However, please notice which poll option is far and away winning, -------. :4


BTW, I have a friend who has campaigned a 160K mile stock 6 bolt bottom end for the last two years at the 375-400 whp level. All I know is it pegs the boost gauge a hair past the 30 psi mark, amd LOVES it. He strips 2nd gear out of his trans twice a year and his transfer case lube is filled with gold glitter whenever he changes it, but it holds. Miracle car.

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I think it will hold..It's hit or miss i noticed with these 7 bolt engines.My dsm has over 170,000 miles
and i boost the piss out of it.I also have a six puck installed.Never had a problem, except alternators.
Big amps that draws alot of juice is a no no with a dsm.

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LOL, I voted I hate Tough-Girl too. I knew the CRX would be the win. Gone are the days 3H dominates polls. This isn't goning to be a high boost application. I plan to have a little fun with it then de-tune it and give it to my sister when I go to the Marine Corps. I'll probably only set it at 8-10 lbs becuase my sister can't drive for ----.

I know, I taosted an alternator already. The GSX's only run 45amp alts. WTF ???

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Yeah, i was building one hell of a monster 99 civic si but everybody in houston
has a problem keeping their civics.Now the thieves are stealing stock ef's.
That's why i'm building a dsm.Autozone lifetime warranty alternators ftw..
I toasted four...lol

Re: DSM shit the bed, who's placing bets? (3 options)
 

A stock ED is worth more than your build if you had stuck with it. EM1 is a form of failure.

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yeah a em1 is over rated.I just picked it up cheap 2 years ago.It was a theft recovery and i only spent 250 on it from the tow yard.
I just figured a built non vtec sohc would blow people away ( mind wise).I've spent way more for machine shop labor than i have on anything.
I'll be a sohc lover for life.It's the way it goes.I've played with civic's for 15 years...Never onced went with another car until now.
The thieves have just gotten alot worse over the past 6 years.I could not even park my old civic at the store without worrying. :6

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Yes, I am the old guy although not as old as some...but I'm sure I'm still plenty older than most on here (and I'm still older than you ;) ) so go easy with the baby nuts comment lol. Compared to me you're still the noob anyway, so I flame who and when I want according to my own free will.You'll find I have plenty of humor...just give it time. It's the typical DSM hatred on this board, and ever since I switched from honda to DSM exclusively I've seen more than my fair share from here, and I don't frequent the site anywhere near as much as I used to. Sorry to say it, but even though I cut my teeth with this site, it really doesn't hold anything useful for me anymore other than the occasional good laugh and chance to pick on noobs who get butt-hurt way too easily. Have a nice day. :)

Re: DSM shit the bed, who's placing bets? (3 options)
 

Ive seen engines run for up to 20min with no oil so im going with that.

I stand by my quote that DSM's are junk. The 4g63 is ------- awesome and can make stupid power just because they can hold boost. Everything attached to the motor is ------- pathetic though. The engine/drivetrain was designed for a car that soaking wet tipped the scales at 2500lbs. The lightest of factory dsms weighs 2750.

Harness is junk. ECUs have always been junk. Just generally a mechanics car. A properly built and maintained dsm (read:dragstrip warrior) is a thing of beauty, but the sad truth is that most arent. Not to mention the fact that 5 years ago, nobody wanted anything to do with them, and now they are so popular, parts are ------- OMG JDM 2JZ supra expensive. The newest of these cars is approching 10 years, which makes it even worse. Bleh.

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I'll agree 100% with you there. I've seen stock bottom 6 bolts take some serious abuse and watch bolt-on 7 bolts ---- the bed within 50 miles. Hell, I've even seen stock block evo 8 7 bolts run into the mid 500whp mark and also seen them self destruct on a stock turbo that spiked too high (I have pics to prove that one too). It's kind of hit or miss these days...most 4g63's never really had the maintenance they required and have a butt-load of miles on them. Harnesses are always a nightmare, and not just on older DSM's either, even new ones (like my Evo for instance that had 8 connectors in the driver's side kick panel corroded solid).

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Yeah the germans are bad for that ---- too.

I drove an evo X. I cant help but think that mitsu's engineers had a lot of seat time in the MKV GTI before they built the X.

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Mitsu missed their mark by quite a bit with the new X. I got to drive the standard 5 speed model and my friend's GSR model, and I'm honestly not impressed with it...not for a $40k price tag anyway. It seems like their trying to compete more against the middle age BMW crowd.

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Well, it's not an option, but I say you drive the car like you have some common sense for a lil while, and when money allows replace the bullshit parts(cheechnchong turbo mainly) with some higher quality ----. They have a bad rep but I really like those cars... ESPECIALLY the 1g's with a 6-bolt block...And I happen to like the fact that those cars are all coming up on 20 years old.

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Im willing to bet youd like what im about to get. The last remaining mint dodge colt. Not turbo but easily remedied. It needs a drivers side seat cover and a VC gasket. Runs ------- awesome.

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i saw one of those with a gear splitter and it was essentially a 10spd :S

Re: DSM shit the bed, who's placing bets? (3 options)
 

4G15 is an effeminant if worthy beater engine.

It'll also hold boost like a D16. Hint hint.

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Thats the main reason im considering it. O0

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Yes, an awesome sleeper. I know some of those were turbocharged from the factory, but I think the engine had a little less displacement than the 4g63(I've seen a few with the 4g63 swapped in)...I'd like to see what can be done with the N/A motor...

Re: DSM shit the bed, who's placing bets? (3 options)
 

4g63 = 1997cc (2.0L) = Cast iron madness

4g15 = 1468cc (1.5L) = Fail


Just shove a 4g64 in there, no balance shafts, no crank-walk, no puny eninge.





J/K

Re: DSM shit the bed, who's placing bets? (3 options)
 

Its mainly going to be a DD until I finish the supra. Which could be a hot minute. So im in no hurry. ;)

Ive had more than my fair share of time in and underneath dsm's, csm's, and quite a few other mitsu born platforms. Thanks for the suggestions though.

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CSM's?

A colt with a 4g64 and 1g 4g63 head under pressure would be the nog's meow. :y But a 4g15t would make for a nasty little grocery-getter.

Re: DSM shit the bed, who's placing bets? (3 options)
 

I think there are a few 4G64's in the yard at the PickAPart in Knoxville. If they are like the 4G61 or 4G63 they drop right in bolting to the stock trans you just have to fab the engine side mount.

Re: DSM shit the bed, who's placing bets? (3 options)
 

The flywheel might be the only issue. I think a n/t 4g63 would work. Id probably keep the 4-speed km box.

Re: DSM shit the bed, who's placing bets? (3 options)
 

Here's a very good albeit extensive thread on swaping in a 4g64.

http://www.dsmsource.com/forums/show...ight=4g64+swap

Re: DSM shit the bed, who's placing bets? (3 options)
 

Reason 1 why i hate my car.

It's 10 years old and it's had 3 owners, all of which probably beat the piss out of it. The underframe rails are beat to ---- from them probably jumping it over a curb. The front floorboards are humped because of this. The crossmember was knew as were the front lower control arms and the radiator core support...... Somebody wrecked it bad. The only electrical problem i had was weird as ----. It always threw a code b/c i have a ghetto test pipe (hollow cat) and on my way home from a friend's house, i had no cel. I was hauling ass ripping through gears the whole way home though and as soon as i pulled into the driveway to let the car idle, the bitch came back. I went to advanced to run obd scan and i had "insufficient egr flow". The 02 sensor problem went away and then the egr wants to ---- with me. *shrug*

I let the oil go a little low some 4 months or something back and spun a rod bearing. My fault. Lack of maint and a ---- oil pan w/o a baffle raped me. $150 later and i'm back in the game. I dont have a 4g63t but i do have a stout iron block and a decent flowing head with a transmission that can take some abuse. Clutch sucks but the trans is stout. I ran my old one without changing the fluid ever. All the syncros ---- out and then it wouldn't stay in 5th. I drove it like that for a year (5th gear made me buy a new one though). When we pulled the drain plug, it was BONE DRY. I dont know how long it was without fluid. For some reason, the lightbulb didn't go off when we changed axles and no fluid came out.

Gotta keep the car up. I'm lazy/always in a rush and i paid for it, atleast 4 times with my car. Never again.

My friend bobby has his gst for about 3 months before it started showing symtoms of crankwalk. He never checked the oil or trans fluid and beat on it constantly. He always stayed in boost, even in reverse. Then his brother ron wrecked it into a gaurdrail. Bobby responded by wrecking ron's kia/hyundai gay ---- into a high curb not even a week later.

Never let friends drive your car, especially if it's boosted.

Re: DSM shit the bed, who's placing bets? (3 options)
 

1,4,5

Re: DSM shit the bed, who's placing bets? (3 options)
 

Shut up.

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Thank you.

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Ripped my old 6-bolt apart to find that my old 60-1 bent a rod and fucked my bearings.... now looking for a rwd car to swap my spare 4g63 into