Does this remind you of anyone?
04-26-2006, 11:19 AM
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Re: Does this remind you of anyone?
Originally Posted by snm95ls
Riddle me this RS.
Why is it Why has it been reported that several government execs were told not to fly that morning?
Why is it that buildings designed to withstand an impact from a similar sized airliner collapsed?
Why was the collapse of building 7 consistent with a controlled demolition pull?
http://www.jonesreport.com/images/wtc7_collapse2.mpg
http://www.wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Did you know that NYC OEM and the mayors office, who was coincidently not present that morning, were in building 7?
How is it that magically the next day we have 19 suspects? Are we that ------- good?
How deep does the rabbit hole go?
Do some research.
Stating that I have no credibility because I said there is some compelling Evidence is foolish. Again illustrating your blind faith.
Why is it Why has it been reported that several government execs were told not to fly that morning?
Why is it that buildings designed to withstand an impact from a similar sized airliner collapsed?
Why was the collapse of building 7 consistent with a controlled demolition pull?
http://www.jonesreport.com/images/wtc7_collapse2.mpg
http://www.wtc7.net/articles/FEMA/WTC_ch5.htm
Did you know that NYC OEM and the mayors office, who was coincidently not present that morning, were in building 7?
How is it that magically the next day we have 19 suspects? Are we that ------- good?
How deep does the rabbit hole go?
Do some research.Stating that I have no credibility because I said there is some compelling Evidence is foolish. Again illustrating your blind faith.
04-26-2006, 11:24 AM
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Re: Does this remind you of anyone?
Originally Posted by BlackDragon
what? vacume? so your saying if north korea and iran wanted to they would whup our azz's?? 
if vietnam had the technology to come to the states back during the vietnam war there would have been alot more casualties on our end.
iran is all mountains tons move places for fighters to hide.
first thing to go if we hit iran would be israel
then they would bring the fight to us
they wudnt wipe us out but there attacks would continue for years to come...
04-26-2006, 12:41 PM
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Re: Does this remind you of anyone?
Originally Posted by buk9tp
first thing to go if we hit iran would be israel
remember they fucked Egypt, Lebanon, Syria in like six days.
04-26-2006, 04:49 PM
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Re: Does this remind you of anyone?
Originally Posted by zex_cool
I agree with you for the most part, but I really think that Israel is the strongest country in the middle east.
remember they fucked Egypt, Lebanon, Syria in like six days.
remember they fucked Egypt, Lebanon, Syria in like six days.
egypt fucked them.. and they could have easilly continued and pushed all the way into israel.. but instead the president signed a peace treaty.. and that pissed off alot of people.. then he got assasinated.
without us. there wud be no israel today
04-26-2006, 04:56 PM
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Re: Does this remind you of anyone?
Originally Posted by buk9tp
lol
egypt fucked them.. and they could have easilly continued and pushed all the way into israel.. but instead the president signed a peace treaty.. and that pissed off alot of people.. then he got assasinated.
without us. there wud be no israel today
egypt fucked them.. and they could have easilly continued and pushed all the way into israel.. but instead the president signed a peace treaty.. and that pissed off alot of people.. then he got assasinated.
without us. there wud be no israel today
ahaha, i cant belive you said that.
The Six-Day War (Hebrew: מלחמת ששת הימים transliteration: Milkhemet Sheshet HaYamim, Arabic: حرب الأيام الستة transliteration: ħarb al-ayam as-sita), also known as the 1967 Arab-Israeli War, Six Days' War, or June War, was fought between Israel and its Arab neighbors Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. Following Egypt's blockade of Israeli shipping in the Straits of Tiran and the deployment of its troops in the Sinai near the Israeli border, and after months of increasingly tense border incidents and diplomatic crises, Israel launched what it described as a pre-emptive attack against Egypt. At the war's end, Israel had gained control of the Gaza Strip, the Sinai Peninsula, the West Bank, and the Golan Heights. The results of the war affect the geopolitics of the region to this day.
04-26-2006, 05:00 PM
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Re: Does this remind you of anyone?
All but four of its 197 operational jets left the skies of Israel in a mass attack against Egypt's airfields. [4] Egyptian defensive infrastructure was extremely poor, and no airfields were yet equipped with armoured bunkers capable of protecting Egypt's warplanes in the event of an attack. The Israeli warplanes headed out over the Mediterranean before turning toward Egypt. Meanwhile, the Egyptians hindered their own defense by effectively shutting down their entire air defense system: they were worried that rebel Egyptian forces would shoot down the plane carrying Field Marshal Amer and Lt-Gen. Sidqi Mahmoud, who were en route from al Maza to Bir Tamada in the Sinai to meet the commanders of the troops stationed there. In this event it did not make a great deal of difference as the Israeli pilots came in below Egyptian radar cover and well below the lowest point at which its SA-2 surface-to-air missile batteries could bring down an aircraft. [5] The Israelis employed a mixed attack strategy; bombing and strafing runs against the planes themselves, and tarmac-shredding penetration bombs dropped on the runways that rendered them unusable, leaving any undamaged planes unable to take off and therefore helpless targets for later Israeli waves. The attack was successful beyond its planners' wildest dreams, destroying virtually all of the Egyptian Air Force on the ground with few Israeli casualties. Over 300 aircraft and 100 combat pilots were lost. [6] The Israelis lost 19 of their planes, mostly operational losses (i.e. mechanical failure, accidents, etc). The attack guaranteed Israeli air superiority during the rest of the war.
Before the war, Israeli pilots and ground crews trained extensively in rapid refitting of aircraft returning from sorties, enabling a single aircraft to sortie up to four times a day (as opposed to the norm in Arab air forces of one or two sorties per day). This enabled the IAF to send several attack waves against Egyptian airfields on the first day of the war, overwhelming the Egyptian Air Force. This also has contributed to the Arab belief that the IAF was helped by foreign air forces (see below).
Following the success of the initial attack waves against the major Egyptian airfields, subsequent attacks were made later in the day against secondary Egyptian airfields as well as Jordanian, Syrian and even Iraqi fields. Throughout the war, Israeli aircraft continued strafing airfield runways to prevent their return to usability.
Before the war, Israeli pilots and ground crews trained extensively in rapid refitting of aircraft returning from sorties, enabling a single aircraft to sortie up to four times a day (as opposed to the norm in Arab air forces of one or two sorties per day). This enabled the IAF to send several attack waves against Egyptian airfields on the first day of the war, overwhelming the Egyptian Air Force. This also has contributed to the Arab belief that the IAF was helped by foreign air forces (see below).
Following the success of the initial attack waves against the major Egyptian airfields, subsequent attacks were made later in the day against secondary Egyptian airfields as well as Jordanian, Syrian and even Iraqi fields. Throughout the war, Israeli aircraft continued strafing airfield runways to prevent their return to usability.
04-26-2006, 05:02 PM
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Re: Does this remind you of anyone?
The Egyptian forces consisted of 7 divisions, four armored, two infantry, and one mechanized infantry. Overall, Egypt had around 100,000 troops and 900-950 tanks in the Sinai, backed by 1,100 APCs and 1000 artillery pieces. [7] This arrangement was based on the Soviet doctrine, where mobile armor units at strategic depth provide a dynamic defense while infantry units engage in defensive battles.
Israeli forces concentrated on the border with Egypt included 6 armored brigades, one infantry brigade, one mechanized infantry brigade, 3 paratrooper brigades and 700 tanks giving a total of around 70,000 men, organized in three armored divisions. The Israeli plan was to surprise the Egyptian forces in both timing (i.e., pre-emptive attack exactly coinciding with the time the IAF was due to strike the Egyptian airfields), location (attacking via northern and central Sinai routes, as opposed to the Egyptian expectations of a repeat of the 1956 war, when the IDF attacked via the central and southern routes) and method (using a combined-force flanking approach, rather than direct tank assaults).
The northernmost Israeli division, consisting of three brigades and commanded by Major General Israel Tal, one of Israel's most prominent armor commanders, advanced slowly through the Gaza Strip and El-Arish, which were not heavily protected.
The central division (Maj. Gen. Avraham Yoffe) and the southern division (Maj. Gen. Ariel Sharon), however, entered the heavily defended Abu-Ageila-Kusseima region. Egyptian forces there included one infantry division (the 2nd), a battalion of tank destroyers and a tank regiment.
At that moment, Sharon initiated an attack, precisely planned, coordinated and carried out. He sent out two of his brigades to the north of Um-Katef, the first one ordered to break through the defenses at Abu-Ageila to the south, and the second to block the road to El-Arish and to encircle Abu-Ageila from the east. At the same time, a paratrooper force was heliborne to the rear of the defensive positions and destroyed the artillery, preventing it from engaging Israeli armor and infantry. Combined forces of armor, paratroopers, infantry, artillery and combat engineers then attacked the Egyptian disposition from the front, flanks and rear, cutting the enemy off. The breakthrough battles, which were in sandy areas and minefields, continued for three and-a-half days until Abu-Ageila fell.
Many of the Egyptian units remained intact and could be scrambled to prevent Israeli units from reaching the Suez Canal or engage in combat in the attempt to reach the canal. However, when the Egyptian Minister of Defense, Field Marshal Abdel Hakim Amer heard about the fall of Abu-Ageila, he panicked and ordered all units in the Sinai to retreat. This order effectively meant the defeat of Egypt.
Israeli soldier (later Major General Yossi Ben Hanan) cools off in the Suez Canal. Note the AK-47 rifle. Israeli soldiers often traded their unreliable carbines and short-range Uzis for AK-47s taken from captured or killed Arab soldiers.Due to the Egyptians' retreat, the Israeli High Command decided not to pursue the Egyptian units but rather to bypass and destroy them in the mountainous passes of West Sinai. Therefore, in the following two days (June 6 and 7) all three Israeli divisions (Sharon and Tal were joined by an armored brigade each) rushed westwards and reached the passes. Sharon's division first went southward then westward to Mitla Pass. It was joined there by parts of Yoffe's division, while its other units blocked the Gidi Pass. Tal's units stopped at various points to the length of the Suez Canal.
Israel's blocking action was only partially successful. Only the Gidi pass was captured before the Egyptians approached it, but at other places Egyptian units did manage to pass through and cross the Canal to safety. Nevertheless the Israeli victories were impressive. In four days of operations, Israel defeated the largest and most heavily equipped Arab army, leaving numerous points in the Sinai filled with hundreds of burning or abandoned Egyptian vehicles and military equipment.
On 8 June, Israel had completed the Sinai capture by sending infantry units to Ras-Sudar on the western coast of the peninsula. Sharm El-Sheikh, at its southern tip, had already been captured a day earlier by units of the Israeli Navy.
Several tactical elements made the swift Israeli advance possible: first, the complete air superiority the Israeli Air Force had achieved over its Egyptian counterpart; second, the determined implementation of an innovative battle plan; and third, the lack of coordination among Egyptian troops. These would prove to be decisive elements on Israel's other fronts as well.
Israeli forces concentrated on the border with Egypt included 6 armored brigades, one infantry brigade, one mechanized infantry brigade, 3 paratrooper brigades and 700 tanks giving a total of around 70,000 men, organized in three armored divisions. The Israeli plan was to surprise the Egyptian forces in both timing (i.e., pre-emptive attack exactly coinciding with the time the IAF was due to strike the Egyptian airfields), location (attacking via northern and central Sinai routes, as opposed to the Egyptian expectations of a repeat of the 1956 war, when the IDF attacked via the central and southern routes) and method (using a combined-force flanking approach, rather than direct tank assaults).
The northernmost Israeli division, consisting of three brigades and commanded by Major General Israel Tal, one of Israel's most prominent armor commanders, advanced slowly through the Gaza Strip and El-Arish, which were not heavily protected.
The central division (Maj. Gen. Avraham Yoffe) and the southern division (Maj. Gen. Ariel Sharon), however, entered the heavily defended Abu-Ageila-Kusseima region. Egyptian forces there included one infantry division (the 2nd), a battalion of tank destroyers and a tank regiment.
At that moment, Sharon initiated an attack, precisely planned, coordinated and carried out. He sent out two of his brigades to the north of Um-Katef, the first one ordered to break through the defenses at Abu-Ageila to the south, and the second to block the road to El-Arish and to encircle Abu-Ageila from the east. At the same time, a paratrooper force was heliborne to the rear of the defensive positions and destroyed the artillery, preventing it from engaging Israeli armor and infantry. Combined forces of armor, paratroopers, infantry, artillery and combat engineers then attacked the Egyptian disposition from the front, flanks and rear, cutting the enemy off. The breakthrough battles, which were in sandy areas and minefields, continued for three and-a-half days until Abu-Ageila fell.
Many of the Egyptian units remained intact and could be scrambled to prevent Israeli units from reaching the Suez Canal or engage in combat in the attempt to reach the canal. However, when the Egyptian Minister of Defense, Field Marshal Abdel Hakim Amer heard about the fall of Abu-Ageila, he panicked and ordered all units in the Sinai to retreat. This order effectively meant the defeat of Egypt.
Israeli soldier (later Major General Yossi Ben Hanan) cools off in the Suez Canal. Note the AK-47 rifle. Israeli soldiers often traded their unreliable carbines and short-range Uzis for AK-47s taken from captured or killed Arab soldiers.Due to the Egyptians' retreat, the Israeli High Command decided not to pursue the Egyptian units but rather to bypass and destroy them in the mountainous passes of West Sinai. Therefore, in the following two days (June 6 and 7) all three Israeli divisions (Sharon and Tal were joined by an armored brigade each) rushed westwards and reached the passes. Sharon's division first went southward then westward to Mitla Pass. It was joined there by parts of Yoffe's division, while its other units blocked the Gidi Pass. Tal's units stopped at various points to the length of the Suez Canal.
Israel's blocking action was only partially successful. Only the Gidi pass was captured before the Egyptians approached it, but at other places Egyptian units did manage to pass through and cross the Canal to safety. Nevertheless the Israeli victories were impressive. In four days of operations, Israel defeated the largest and most heavily equipped Arab army, leaving numerous points in the Sinai filled with hundreds of burning or abandoned Egyptian vehicles and military equipment.
On 8 June, Israel had completed the Sinai capture by sending infantry units to Ras-Sudar on the western coast of the peninsula. Sharm El-Sheikh, at its southern tip, had already been captured a day earlier by units of the Israeli Navy.
Several tactical elements made the swift Israeli advance possible: first, the complete air superiority the Israeli Air Force had achieved over its Egyptian counterpart; second, the determined implementation of an innovative battle plan; and third, the lack of coordination among Egyptian troops. These would prove to be decisive elements on Israel's other fronts as well.
04-26-2006, 05:09 PM
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Re: Does this remind you of anyone?
lol random have u ever been to sinai? have u seen the canal?
the egyptians were sold defective weapons by the soviets and they relied on soviet military tactics. it was only after an egyptian general took over and led the offensive that they retook sinai. they even crossed the canal. and the israelis were retreating. they amassed on the israeli side of the canal. they were all standing ready to advance. they had mobile bridges built they moved there entire armored divisions across and kept pounding israeli positions. they were waiting for the command to move forward. and reinforcements were on the way. but the command that came was to pull back onto there side.. and sadat signed a peace treaty with israel. which is why he was seen as a traitor, and was assasinated.
the egyptians were sold defective weapons by the soviets and they relied on soviet military tactics. it was only after an egyptian general took over and led the offensive that they retook sinai. they even crossed the canal. and the israelis were retreating. they amassed on the israeli side of the canal. they were all standing ready to advance. they had mobile bridges built they moved there entire armored divisions across and kept pounding israeli positions. they were waiting for the command to move forward. and reinforcements were on the way. but the command that came was to pull back onto there side.. and sadat signed a peace treaty with israel. which is why he was seen as a traitor, and was assasinated.
