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CRXMatt 12-29-2004 08:59 PM

CRX vs. Z28
 
Alright guys.. i know this thread is dumb but i'm needing some opinions and thoughts on this matter. I got a guy who owns a 02' Z28 and he's all talkin ---- about hondas only because he's never owned one. So he's wanting to run my 88' DX CRX this summer for like 300 bucks at the track. Does anyone know what kinda quarter mile times he'd hit, and what I can do to the rex to beat his ass..lol because the dpfi natural aspiration isnt gonna cut it.

HondaTuner 12-29-2004 09:01 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
I beat a 1983 Chevy Camaro Z28 in my CRX highway..

Those newer Z28's run like.. a mid 13 I think?

Good luck

CRXMatt 12-29-2004 09:03 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
lol, ---- i'm gonna have to dump a few grand into the rex to beat his ass.

HondaTuner 12-29-2004 09:04 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
lol, maybe :P

What's your setup?

CRXMatt 12-29-2004 09:07 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
my setup is stock for now.. 1.5l dpfi dude.. oh i got a huge ass magnaflow exhaust, and cai. but it came with the car.. i got an mpfi swap on the way and i've been fixing the body.. the crx was 200 bucks man i couldn't pass it up. 143,000 miles. 5-speed. I've been really looking into a built d-series from DH-racing.. they seem like they have some well built products and i'd feel more comfortable boosting something like that.

Xplocivic 12-29-2004 09:10 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
you need a turbonator!

HondaTuner 12-29-2004 09:10 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

Originally Posted by CRXMatt
my setup is stock for now.. 1.5l dpfi dude.. oh i got a huge ass magnaflow exhaust, and cai.

You're screwed.

I'd go with a nice B series setup. I got love for the D's but B's definitely own them.

CRXMatt 12-29-2004 09:12 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX

Originally Posted by CRXMatt
my setup is stock for now.. 1.5l dpfi dude.. oh i got a huge ass magnaflow exhaust, and cai.

You're screwed.

I'd go with a nice B series setup. I got love for the D's but B's definitely own them.

nippon-motors.com has the b16a1 for 1500 w/ tranny and ecu.. w/ that and bolt ons what is it capable of pulling in the 1/4?

HondaTuner 12-29-2004 09:14 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
I saw a kid with that same setup run a 15.1 in a 90 DX Hatch, then again he was a sucky driver.

HMT-Admin 12-29-2004 09:16 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
http://www.draglab.com/dave/jeffvsjoe.mpg

Thats me racing a buddies Z28 w/ a 60shot. He use to run high 12's.

That was back in the day with my turbo ls/vtec, and boost was cranked up to around 12-13psi. So roughly 280ish whp.

A 1.5l dpfi aint gonna cut it. Maybe slap a vtec head on, a good clutch and a good HMT kit. Depending on how good you can drive you may dip into the low 13's or high 12's. Basically its going to take about 225+ whp to beat him.



CRXMatt 12-29-2004 09:21 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
for the money i might be better off w/ the b16a1, using bolt ons, w/ racing clutch, and a better suspension setup. Turbo setups are just alot of money for the abuse on the d-series..

HMT-Admin 12-29-2004 09:22 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
a stock b16a with bolt ons will give you about 145-150whp.

Good luck buddy...


HondaTuner 12-29-2004 09:23 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
You need the boost.

J-SMITH69 12-29-2004 09:25 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
i dont think you could drop any *stock* honda motor (i4) + i/h/e into that car and beat him.

i bet you could boost the 1.5l MPFI hard for one race and be close or maybe beat him?

my friends *moms* 95 camaro with LT1 + intake + perf chip auto pulled on my integra from a roll (225hp/240ft-lbs)

CRXMatt 12-29-2004 09:25 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
You need the boost.

So, a sohc head on my d15 block boosted would do the trick? you guys talk alot about tuning, and how that helps prolong engine life on turbocharged engines.. being a noob n' all i dont really understand what u mean by tuning.. i know people dyno tune but I dont guess I understand the process of dyno tuning. Can someone explain this for me?

crx304 12-29-2004 09:26 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

fTurbo setups are just alot of money for the abuse on the d-series..
i don't know there your getting your info from.

check here...... www.homemadeturbo.com :P

my neighbor has a 02' trans am and on radials and exhaust het hit 13.7

J-SMITH69 12-29-2004 09:29 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

Originally Posted by CRXMatt

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
You need the boost.

So, a sohc head on my d15 block boosted would do the trick? you guys talk alot about tuning, and how that helps prolong engine life on turbocharged engines.. being a noob n' all i dont really understand what u mean by tuning.. i know people dyno tune but I dont guess I understand the process of dyno tuning. Can someone explain this for me?

*tuning* the mystical word that import car lovers LOVE to say, is basically fixin the fuel and timing and such so maximize power and others

CRXMatt 12-29-2004 09:30 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

Originally Posted by crx304

fTurbo setups are just alot of money for the abuse on the d-series..
i don't know there your getting your info from.

check here...... www.homemadeturbo.com :P

my neighbor has a 02' trans am and on radials and exhaust het hit 13.7

dude, it's obvious though.. you turbo charge an engine that wasn't made for boost.. it cant be a good thing.. would u put money on a d-series boosted 140,000 mile engine to last 250,000 miles being well maintained and tuned??

tukinnam 12-29-2004 09:30 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
at night when he least suspects it:

1. Break his legs (he'll have to find another way to press the gas pedals) then..
2. Steal his money (that should help cover the cost for a turbo kit)
3. Post pics

You should definitely win that 300 bucks.

Or take the ----- way out, just hand him the 300 bucks.

HondaTuner 12-29-2004 09:32 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

Originally Posted by tukinnam
Or take the ----- way out, just hand him the 300 bucks.

LOL, don't even try and race him, just fork up the cash now :P

CRXMatt 12-29-2004 09:32 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
You forgot a step dude
at night when he least suspects it:

1. Break his legs (he'll have to find another way to press the gas pedals) then..
2. Steal his money (that should help cover the cost for a turbo kit)
3. Go to jail
4. get bailed out then post pics

You should definitely win that 300 bucks.

Or take the ----- way out, just hand him the 300 bucks

HMT-Admin 12-29-2004 09:34 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

Originally Posted by CRXMatt
dude, it's obvious though.. you turbo charge an engine that wasn't made for boost.. it cant be a good thing..

::points finger:: The exit is right on the top of your browser on the Right.. its a little X.


CRXMatt 12-29-2004 09:35 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX

Originally Posted by tukinnam
Or take the ----- way out, just hand him the 300 bucks.

LOL, don't even try and race him, just fork up the cash now :P

i really want to own this fucker dude..haha .. he's like all big ---- w/ his nice 02' z28 up town.. he talks alot of ---- about imports.. and he has alot of friends which would make it 100 times better to own his ass in front of everyone.. i'm gonna have to take project crx to the next level fo sho.. boost is coming.. ---- it.. how much does a d-series engine cost anyway.. 200 bucks.. ---- it i'm game

HondaTuner 12-29-2004 09:35 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ

Originally Posted by CRXMatt
dude, it's obvious though.. you turbo charge an engine that wasn't made for boost.. it cant be a good thing..

::points finger:: The exit is right on the top of your browser on the Right.. its a little X.



hahaha.. oh man this thread is funny

turbocharging an engine = less dependablility/more power

So what do you want exactly?

CRXMatt 12-29-2004 09:37 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX

Originally Posted by AbaZ

Originally Posted by CRXMatt
dude, it's obvious though.. you turbo charge an engine that wasn't made for boost.. it cant be a good thing..

::points finger:: The exit is right on the top of your browser on the Right.. its a little X.



hahaha.. oh man this thread is funny

turbocharging an engine = less dependablility/more power

So what do you want exactly?

I want a reliable ass hauler!! but i'm going boost. the d-series is a cheap ass engine anyway. who gives a ----..

HondaTuner 12-29-2004 09:37 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

Originally Posted by CRXMatt
the d-series is a cheap ass engine anyway. who gives a ----..

That's the spirit! :D

tranceminister 12-29-2004 09:39 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
"Mr. Miagi voice" More-Powa" ;)

Xplocivic 12-29-2004 09:39 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
Jeff got it right.

But no. Seriously. I run 11psi daily on my 156k D16Z6 and I expect it to run for a very long time. Honda engines are strong enough to hold the boost as long as you are careful with your "tuning". Maybe you should check out some other parts of this website, like the forced induction forum, or the project pages. I have less then $1200 into my HMT setup and I make 211hp at the wheels. Thats up from about 105 at the wheels.

87na_rx7 12-29-2004 09:41 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
i dont see you beating him without alot of boost, just hope he is on street tires and doesnt have anything into it

CRXMatt 12-29-2004 09:44 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

Originally Posted by Rx7toCivic
i dont see you beating him without alot of boost, just hope he is on street tires and doesnt have anything into it

alright i'll do some research.. yeah he's on street tires. its an automatic and i think he has like a k&n filter and flowmasters

HondaTuner 12-29-2004 09:48 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
I see a mini me and boost in your future 8)

FooK 12-29-2004 09:50 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
where is his ass, ill race him with the crx when its done.

CRXMatt 12-29-2004 09:50 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
I see a mini me and boost in your future 8)

Yeah, i think i can find a sohc vtec head fairly cheap and my mpfi swap is on its way.. it'll be clear sailing from there. i've got alot of research to do though..

87na_rx7 12-29-2004 09:53 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
i have a z6 head :)

CRXMatt 12-29-2004 09:54 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

Originally Posted by Rx7toCivic
i have a z6 head :)

what you asking for that beast dawg? i support the paypal ;) im at 47432 French Lick, IN

87na_rx7 12-29-2004 09:56 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
my friend wants it, but ill let you know if he falls through. But i will have a z1 head on the 3rd for sure, what kinda time frame you looking @?

CRXMatt 12-29-2004 09:58 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
I'm moving March 1st.. so i'd rather not tear the CRX down until then.. so just whenever you're ready to sell it to me let me know.. i get on HMT all the time and check my pms.

CRXMatt 12-29-2004 10:01 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 

Originally Posted by FooK
where is his ass, ill race him with the crx when its done.

His ass is in Paoli, Indiana (southern indiana).. he's always out cruising town on Friday and Saturday nights. We have nice ski slopes here.. you might come ski one weekend and drive downtown to own his ass.haha

MikeJ-2009 12-29-2004 11:07 PM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
Strip a crx, build a z6 or y8 with a big turbo (63/60) at 14psi, get some slicks, and he's yours. I'd say a low 13 should take care of him. I think those things run 14.3ish stock, and if he's got an automatic he's a fucken moron anyway. ;)

FURACERMAN 12-30-2004 12:28 AM

Re:CRX vs. Z28
 
Find an a6 and boost that. Easier to find.


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