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Yes I am opening the can-o-worms on this topic to hear what you have to say about this plan. There is articles running in every paper in the country ATM and if you don’t have a paper here is a link.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ion/index.html

So lets here it. I have my views but it will piss allot of people off. Boy i can hear the worms now..

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Didn't read the whole thing, but if he wants to give them temp job licenses, go for it, i don't want to cut grass, shovel rocks etc..

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I call it amnesty, but noooobody believes me.

hmm, break the law by coming here, and then get rewarded with eventual citizenship. what a ------- idiot

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Personally I would hire the best man for the job. If a mexican wants to come over here and do a better job than the lazy american for less money. Im gonna pay the mexican. :)

However, i do think that if you commit a crime you should instantly have the standard US law be delt upon you, then instantly sent back and never to let in legally again.

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i liked the idea of shock collars and a big unerground wire on the border ;D

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I like the idea of me being a border patrol agent in the bed of a big lifted truck in a rocking chair with a large rifle. I'd love to shoot canadians for a living

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canadians, HA! they're too damn proud to come here, they think canada is better, they would like to shoot us, mexicans on the other hand know mexico sucks and want to get the ---- out. we should build a big overpass over the us, so the mexicans can go straight to canada, now that would be some good ----! i think we're referring mostly to "south" of the border. o.k. everbody just shoot anybody that live south of your border and tries to come to your country. we'll shoot the mexican, the canadian fucks will shoot us (if any of us are stupid enough to go to canada, we deserve to be shot), it works perfect.

PROJEKTEG FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!

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You didn't read it all. It clearly said it wasn't amnesty.

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yeah, clearly said it wasn't amnesty, because they don't AUTOMATICALLY get citezenship. but what the hell else is the goal of anybody that is going to be part of that program? however you go about it they arerewarding law breaking, if that isn't amnesty then nothing is. but hey, there are a whole hell of a lot of mexican voters, and people in any state but california, arizona, and texas who couldn't give a damn aboutthe 4 illegals they have total. It's a vote scam, he even tacked on that it was an anti terrorism decision, what a crock of ----.

go ahead and let bush wag your dog. I'd rather not be jaded by his cracked bells and off key whistles.

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i think it's a good idea. But, then again it has it's down. one major affect in this..... letting 8 million immigrants become citizen would be raising are market. we will manufacture more, sale more, increase stocks, basically it will bump are economy. i vote yea.

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I look at it this way, at 1 point of time all our ancesters were imigrants But like what Arnold said in Cali u ain't a citizen you dont get a licenes (of coarse our ancesters didn't drive)

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These mexicans are ruining America. Reading PA (where I go to school) has now become 60% mexican and suprise suprise its now the 25th most dangerous city in the US. The city isn't that big and its more dangerous that any part of Phily.

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I can care less about stupid immigration laws because this country is fucked up and going down the shitter anyways. There are way too many laws already... the goverment can ------- kiss my ass.

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I don't even know where to begin.

If I EVER get a couple million to my name I'm moving to Thailand or something, no bullshit. You guys can come and ---- some of my -----s or something.

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I heard a point this morning on the radio. This of it this way, 8 single male Mexicans in one house VS 1 American 3 person family in the same size house. The American family needs a $10 per hour job to make the house payment and food. The Mexican needs $4 an hour and $3 of those go back to Mexico to his family. $1 stays in America for our economy. This DOES NOT help us at all. For the $10 the American needs to survive, that stays in the economy the business is going to take the bottom line and hire 2 Mexicans for that price and have some extra. Is this right? HELL NO. " There are 140,000 Coloradoans who can't find work, 650,000 without health insurance and 400,000 who live in poverty, said House Minority Leader Andrew Romanoff, D-Denver. " Give the people that have no job or are in poverty the jobs not the person that hopped the boarder and didn’t get any paperwork at all and the gets a ------- free ride practically into the country. Were writing off debt to other countries and it’s lowering the value of the dolor. It’s going to suck having to pay $5 for a stick of gum. I hate Bush and I hope to GOD he gets voted out next term.

Also say there is 3 Mexican families in the house that 1 American family lives, each have 2 kids, so that is 2 American kids and 6 Mexican kids. We pay property taxes and put our child through school, what about the 6 children? There is no way that house pays enough taxes to put their kid through school. So who pays the burden? THE ------- REST OF US.

Our ancestors PAIED there way to this country and paid there taxes and what not(at least mine did and i have proof). Don’t tell me it’s the same as that. IT IS NOT.

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we need SOME mexican labor to do jobs people wont take.

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some but not the millions that are here now..

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this comin from the guy who says im so against working i wouldn't take a hang job. well the mexicans will work at least.

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They come here by BREAKING THE LAW.

They've turned an American $10/hour job into a $6/hour job

They pay no taxes (they are under the table workers or make under $15,000/year they get it all back= no taxes)

They send their children to our schools while paying no taxes.

They have babies in our hospitals (at an amazing rate) while paying no taxes.

They collect welfare through thier "legally born U.S. children" while paying no taxes.

They shoot our police/commit crimes and run back to mexico because mexico won't send them here to face a dealth penalty (Deputy David March's killer is living freely in mexico right now)

Oh, and we get cheap labor.

Take a look at the pro's and con's of this and tell me where you stand? I'll send you an email in 5 years to let you know which computer or $3/hour illegal has since taken your job. (yes, the $/hour gets lower the more they come.)

I am a Bush supporter, but ---- his ass for this one.

ANYBODY, PLEASE TELL ME I'M WRONG. I DARE YOU!

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only the legal ones should be here

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True that. I understand why they want to come here, but you have to go through a process which 1000's of people go through every year. They spend alot of money and alot of time studying our country/culture, and then Jose Manuel Humberto Sanchez just hops over the border and starts working. Now he's gonna be a citizen! :P

PS The border patrol union is flaming about this. They have already been working under the "border crossing only" policy, which looks down upon catching and deporting any of these people in our residential cities. So once you cross, your free. Nobody's gonna ---- with you. :(

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Posted by: projekteg Posted on: Today at 06:09:23am

"canadians, HA! they're too damn proud to come here, they think canada is better, they would like to shoot us, mexicans on the other hand know mexico sucks and want to get the ---- out. we should build a big overpass over the us, so the mexicans can go straight to canada, now that would be some good ----! i think we're referring mostly to "south" of the border. o.k. everbody just shoot anybody that live south of your border and tries to come to your country. we'll shoot the mexican, the canadian fucks will shoot us (if any of us are stupid enough to go to canada, we deserve to be shot), it works perfect.

PROJEKTEG FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!"


Projekteg you have us Canadians all wrong...first of all if you come to our country we will not shoot you cause we are not allowed to have guns like everyone in America. Canada's plan to take over the US in case you haven't figured it out being a supreme intelligent American being as you all are, is we are sending you our Mad Cows! That's right biological chemical animal warfare. But if you look on the bright side our mad cows will take out a lot of the Mexicans too :)

But seriously I would like to imigrate to your country as long as it's somewhere warm with no snow because it was about -24 here today with a wind chill of -36 And I'm sick of the poor ass Canadian dollar...so watch out projekteg I'll be jumping the fence soon ;)

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its a joke i like Bush but this is rediculous

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you guys talk a whole lot of ---- for not knowing anything

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wow thems banning words. fucktard ::)

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That was a good first post :-\to come on and tell everyone they dont know ----

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dude,not all mexicans are the same.My parents have been here for over 40 years.They have never once recieved any welfare.My parents pay for taxes every year.Never once got a refund.And they pay for my schooling out of there own pocket.

-David

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good for them. do you want a pat on the back or something? ;)

Every race and country has its worthless trash. A good example of white american trash is my friend in my avatar. Maybe bush should come up with a plan to trade worthless pieces of ---- like him for hard working mexicans

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Stealthmode and Onyx get a big thumbs up. Perfect example is a warehouse or factory jobs. In the previous generations these jobs would support a family even though it would be a struggle. Now this industry has been turned into a low income position lacking benefits, fair pay, etc. Screw Bush, people don't see the right wing agenda to destroy the current middle class and make the 1 percent of americans richer in the process. The tax cut which was bull ---- and now this. The theroy of the Bush tax cut was give to the rich and they will re invest in the economy. All this creates is larger savings accounts for these individuals. Give the cut to the guy making 18,000 a year with a kid. Every penny he gets goes right back in the economical circle.

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---- everything and everyone.... there I win.....

What the ---- did everyone all of a sudden become political analyst over night or what???? stop arguing... and be happy you live here and stop player hating

Just be happy theres someone working at Taco Bell at 2 in the morning when your fat ass gets the munchies

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Chris, it's a common misconception to think of tax cuts as for the rich. This is how it works.

Rich guy. Makes 1,000,000/year. Pays 3% taxes

Middle class guy. Makes 20,000/year. Pays 10%
(THESE NUMBERS ARE JUST AN EXAMPLE)

Now, it looks like the rich guy is getting cut a deal because he pays a lower % than the middle class guy. But if you do the math, this is what you find:

Rich guy pays $30,000
Middle class guy pays $2,000

It just depends on the way you look at it. Rich people always pay more in taxes.
And the notion that rich people SHOULD pay more in taxes is complete bullshit. It's just a way to punish people for being successful.

There are some forms of tax cuts that help just one class of people, but this form is the one people always "claim" favors the rich. Rich people don't get class specific tax cuts.

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Well,it seemed that you were talking about all mexicans in general and that is not how they all are.But Thank you for clearing that up :)

-David

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Stealthmode I hear you but for me if I ever get to the point of 150,000+ a year I wouldn't mind paying extra taxes to help the samll guy but I understand that most people who make 6 figues are entrepreneurs who created their own wealth.

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Stealthmode seemed to be looking for this quote with his long rant before.....

DEREK: Alright listen up! We need to open our eyes. There is over two millions illegal immigrants bedding down in the state tonight. The state spent three billions dollars last year on services for those people who had no right to be here in the first place. Three billions dollars. 400 millions dollars just to lock up a bunch of illegal immigrant criminals who only got in this country because the ------- INS decided it's not worth the effort to scream for convicted felons.
Who gives a ----? Our government doesn't gave a ----. Our border policy is a joke! So is anybody surprised that those at the south of the border are laughing at us, laughing at our laws. Every night thousand of these parasites stream across the border like some ------- pinata bodies.

Don't laugh! They're nothing funny going on here this is about your life and mine. It's about decent hard-working Americans falling into the cracks and getting the shaft because their government cares more about the constitutional rights of a bunch of people who aren't even citizens in this country.

On the Statue of Liberty it says: "Give me your tired, your hungry, your poor." Well, it's Americans who are tired and hungry and poor. And I say, until you take care of that, close the ------- book. 'Cause we're losing. We're losing our rights to pursue our destiny. We're losing our freedom. So that a bunch of ------- foreigners can come in here and exploit our country. And this isn't something that's going on far away. This isn't something that's happening places we can't do anything about it. It's happening right here, right in our neighborhood, right in that building behind you.

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I didn't read the article... and dont plan on it, but mexicans are the least of my problems. but you know what... ONE OF THOSE ------- BEANERS ------- JACKED ME FOR MY ------- GIRLFRIEND. SO I SAY ---- EM' ALL!!! THEY CAN GO TO HELL!!! THOSE ------- PIECES OF HORSESHIT!!!!

DIE ----------ERS DIE!!!

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you are wrong, for being a bush supporter ;)

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LMAO

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Pres. Bush similar to california former governor Gray Davis. He passed a law allowing illegal immigrant to have driver license without being a US citizen. He just wanted the vote.

I think President Bush just wants the vote.