big ass marine corp discussion. to be or not to be, infantry.
 

got a 93. and a 135 general tech score.

gonna be the smartest ----------er in my recruiting station thats going infantry.

---- yeah.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

what are asvabs if you dont me mind asking. ???

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

They are a standardized test the armed services use to gauge aptitude in various areas. You have to be a 'tard not to ace the test.

my HS had every senior take them, not sure why. Maybe just to give ya more options after school. I don't remember thinking hard on any of the questions on mine.

some of the actual questions read like this:

Which would be most likely to be magnetic:
A. a flower
B. a book
C. a nail
D. a plastic shovel

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

LOL I remember taking a NYC Exam and one of the questions were:

Which is the best tool to use to pick up the litter off the ground?

A. Shovel
B. Chisel
C. Hammer
D. Air gun

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

oh ok. by taking this test are you required to enlist?

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

no, i took mine when i was 17 and thinking of enlisting but i never enlisted

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

I got a 99, recruiters were calling me for 5-6 years after HS.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

i got a high score as well.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

you have to be damn near half retarded to not get a high score

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

+1. It's highly unlikely anyone on this website scored poorly on it.

Re: toJD loves the cack my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

I don't remember a fucken thing about the test, but I'm proud enough to say that I got a 69 and was still smart enough to tell Captain Hess to get fucked. Article 15 FTW and a trip back to my own life!!

Re: toKO my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

why the ---- is everything KO.

im gone for like week and a half and more ---- changes.

Re: tKOO my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

Chris is playing with the word filter. o-k =KO. it was JD loves the cack last night. :o

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

I've taken the ASVAB 4 times since high school. I'm taking it again tomorrow. I ------- bomb the coding part every time.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

What branch? Did you find out what your GT score is? (overall score, or is that 93 your GT score?)

With scores like that, you aren't gonna be infantry. Your too smart. When it comes down to it, somewhere along the line...your gonna be told to pick another job. My guess, they are gonna give you a secret clearance, and you will be a comm guy or a plane mech. or something like that.

my opinion, you would be super retarded to go into the infantry.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

Haha, all my semi-buddies locally that joined up in the last five years seem to be plane mechs.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

Marines, and i had a UZ infantry contract.

my line scores MM GT EL CL
143 135 128 124

everyones opinion is that im super retarded to go infantry.

but its what i want, if i was gonna do something else i would join the air force or some ---- where my ass would get paid and pampered.

im joining the Marines because they are the epitome of infantry, not to mention the pride that comes from being a Marine.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

o jd, your little quote twists are so funny. unfortunately compared to the casualty rates of army infantry, they are not.


and anyways, now my ------- recruiter is telling me that i will have to leave in april because all the infantry contracts, including the one i was promised, are filled up.

or he wants me to go to the reserves.

so officially my day, week, month are now ruined i had such a good vibe going, finally had a direction in my life that i was really looking forward to. all gone. i cant wait till april because i have no money, was laid off months ago. stopped looking for a job 3 weeks ago because i was supposed to leave on the 15th and couldnt find one anyways.

this is ------- bullshit.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

I am leaving the Marine Corps after 8 years bro. I am not retarded about this ---- in any way. Trust me what I tell you. Marine Corps, you will not be a ------- 03 anything with an asvab score over about a 80-

He is telling you this because your too smart for the job.

Just out of curiosity, why are you joining?

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

in no way am i accusing you of being retarded ??? i dont know why you think this.

i have nothing but respect for you and your decisions and value your opinion just as much as all the other military personnel i have consulted on this issue.



im joining because i really always wanted to.

i wanted to be a Marine since i was like 5 years old, when i was in high school i tried to enlist but the school that i had just transferred to wasnt accepted by the Marines. everyone else accepted it but i had no interest in the other branches, and i did not want to change schools again when my grades were finally doing well.

so i decided i would try school and try and inherit my dads company.

and now, with 2 half semesters of college and 4 years experience working construction and numerous other second jobs. i was laid off and had to reevaluate my situation.

it took me 2 months of thinking, and being told by everyone i knew that was in the military not to join, that i decided it was something i really wanted to do. in my opinion, war is something that you can only experience and learn in the military. and if that sounds dumb or crazy to you thats fine, everyone has told me the same thing.

that just how i am, i want to live in a bunker, i love guns more than turbos, and have always wanted to be in combat.

i dont know if i will like combat as i have never experienced it, i dont know if i will like the marines as i have never been in it.

but the only way to know these things is to do it, i may turn out to be a little pacifistic bitch after seeing my first casualty. ( i seriously doubt this will happen) but the only way to know for sure is to do it. i may get into the Marines and realize that it was the worst decision of my entire life and i hate being told what to do and how to do it. (i seriously doubt this as well)

but i will only know if i do it.

and the reason i want infantry. i have never heard of anyone ever lateral moving to infantry from a technical ass job because that just doesnt make sense. but i have heard of numerous people who have moved from infantry to a technical ass job, because thats how things go.

you dont move down after being trained in something advanced, you move up and learn a more advanced skill.


the reality is you can explain all the benefits of going into a more technical position, all the disadvantages of being a grunt, you can type this out till your fingers fall off and call and explain it to me till you talk like a throat cancer victim.

i want to go infantry, nothing else. if i get into the marines with my 03xx contract and they try and move me well, i will have to deal with it then but im leaving with an active duty 03xx contract. if i have to wait till april to do so then i will.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

You're perfect for the Military...dumb as a fucken brick. Go to the holy land to fight the "terrorists" while your family goes through the depression. DO IT FUCKER!! lol. :D

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

the holy land typically consists of Israel, Palestine and Jordan.

not afganistan or iraq.

but thanks for your support!

p.s. look at my sig below and you will see why im not really amped to go fight for the holy land.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

So why would you want to fight zionist wars?

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

When you were in hs did you work with retards? Did you ever trust a bunch of them with your life?

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

never worked with retards, but i have worked with a guy that didnt graduate 8th grade.

and he knew more about drilling water wells than the engineer that went to college for 6 years.

and i in fact did trust my life with him.

and i dont believe i have ever seen a mentally retarded marine.

so what exactly is your point aside from the fact that you can change qoutes.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

You can call if you want but I have no problems typing either. I just poured a tasty thick Porter and ate a great dinner.

Ok, so let me spill it out to you. As for the 03 field, your not gonna get it. I'm telling you, get it out of your head. Your way to smart. You went and took the asvab, scored great on it, and your over qualified for the job. That would be like the guy who graduates college with a masters and gets a job at Mc Donalds as the fry boy. Honestly. The Marine Corps isnt gonna take a guy with your smarts and make you an 03. Just how it is. Your too over qualified.

So onto the combat thing. Right now, there is no combat going on. Sure, we have Iraq, and sure your ass will probably be there at the late months of 2009 beginning of 2010, but the reality is, there is no combat going on there...at least not like when I went through 6 years ago. You get a few shots every once in a while but its for sure not combat. More Marines died on motorcycles in the US last year than in Iraq in the last year. Crazy Huh? Oh yeah, as I was saying, you'd go over, like everyone else and sit on al-asad, do a 12 hour shift and then go back to your room and chill out for 12 hours. Iraq is the next Okinawa. We went through, blew the place up and now wanna be friends with them, keep them stable and protect them. Thats Okinawa for you. Look back to WWII.

Guns, sure. They are fun to fire. They are fun to ---- with. Realistically, unless you DO by some crazy chance become an 03, you wont fire ---- except an M16 once a year on the range. On the flip side, in the past few years they have changed it a bit and its a ------- blast to go to the range now, if you do enjoy shooting. However, getting up at 2am to go fire on the range when the sun comes up, staying there until 6pm until the last sting fires and then trying to stay focused cause that range score matters weather or not you get promoted can lead to a very stressful week.

You want to live in a bunker, your not. Forget about that. Thats the paper pamflet/video Marine that the recruiter showed you. Trench fighting is a thing of the past. You are gonna live in a room about the size of your typical dorm room that your gonna be pissed off about cleaning to the ------- T every god dam week. People are in your ---- all of the ------- time and life sucks for the first...oh, id say year in the fleet. When/if you do ever see combat, your gonna sleep wheerver the ---- you can sleep. Humvee's, 7 tons, whatever you can lay your head on is where you will sleep.

lat moving isnt gonna happen until you re-enlist or they close your MOS (job). Don't think your gonna enlist, go to boot camp, then MOS school and go to the fleet for a year or two, get sick of the job and change jobs. That wont happen, hope you don't think it will.

So, how can I help you, you might ask. So you wanna be a grunt so ------- bad. I would suggest going into the comm field. Go be a radio operator. Ever seen grunts with no comm? No. Ever see tanks with no comm? No. Ever see LAR with no comm? No. Ever see recon with no Comm? No. See where im going with this? Your not going to be a 03, but being a 0621 (like I am) field radio operator, your CHANCES of being with the grunts and supporting them are very likely. With your asvab score, they would put you into the 06 field in a heart beat. When your duty station preferences come along, tell them Lejeune or Pendelton or even 29 Palms. Those places all have the grunts/tanks/recon/ANGLICO/etc. etc. units.

So, lets look at the other side of things. Why am I getting out? I am a Sergeant, im sitting in a nice house with nice things. Have 2 nice cars sitting in my driveway and a garage with nice tools in it. Why leave this life? Id be an idiot, right? Well, let me tell you the real side of things.
The health care absolutely ------- sucks. It does. Going a year of running 5 days a week, complaining about a knee only to later find out I have a very fucked up knee and all of the sudden they wanna operate on the bitch sucks. Going to the Emergency room and they telling you they are going to breakfast, go somewhere else...yeah. (of course I raised hell but still) Thats your free medical. You see the ---- that makes the news with the ---- service members go through, seems awful, huh? Guess what...its life. Deploying, sure I have no problem doing it. I signed up, and I will go where ever, when ever. Leaving my wife and now I have a little one, by themselves for 6-7 months, im not down for that. I have a great family in Indiana who waits for us to get out, they cant even stand it. The pay...the pay sucks. You will work from about 430- to say 530-6 every night. and you will get the shittiest pay ever. Ok, you get the chowhall (as a single Marine) to go eat at every night. I ate there 2 meals a day, and man does that ---- suck. But hey, I guess its a benifit...and you MUST pay for it, so why not...right? Ever been held accountable for some ---- you had absolutely nothing to do with? Your about to be. Man, I could go on and on, but really...I dont want to. We would need more beer and I dont have many more to drink, sadly enough.

What I will tell you is good on you for wanting to become apart of the greatest gun club ever. The Corps has been great to me and my wife, I just don't wanna deal with this bullshit anymore. I just want to tell you the truth about things. -and get it out of your head about the 03 thing.

Steve. Really, never tell anyone you scored a 69 on the asvab. Thats horrible man. I really hope you aren't serious. If it is true, Capt Hess kicked your ass out because you were worthless even to the Air Force. Thats sad.

You are about to work with a ton of them. Really.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

im gonna pm you.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

and you did.

I went and got another beer. A Samuel Smith oatmeal stout. Slammin beer!

Anyways, lets talk in the open. Someone else might have some of the same thoughts you do, or interested in the military.

I really am lost with the bunker thing. No clue what you are talking about.

Lets go back to the 03 thing. Dude, your too frickin smart for it. You probably have better chances of getting struck by lightening than becoming anything 03. Steve would have made a great 03, hes ------- retarded. He might be book smart, might be able to talk ---- on the internet, make an oil line or paint a house, but anything else that might require some brains and actually applying himself, he would fail horribly at.

So lets think about other jobs that could get you close to those front lines that you wanna be so close to.
Comm is probably your best bet. Be an operator and not a tech. Tank mech's is something you should seriously think about. What else interests you?

So another war. America is so far in debt to everything and everyone, no way in hell could we prepare to invade for another full blown war like we would have to attack Iran or Korea or any of those other nut case places. Afghanistan, trust me when I say, thats already planned and going to happen. The who what when where and how about everything is ready to roll. I really don't think that is going to last long. Hopefully your new commander in chief can man up to the task at hand.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

ZC, cool you posted my response, so no need to send it back to me.

ZC, comms is a legitimate idea for what i am looking for.

i didnt make mention of it but that UZ contract stipulates that i will have the option to try out for Recon.

this is a dream of mine, which is probally shared by everyone in the infantry that dosent dream of going to scout sniper school.

as a field radio operator i can still try out for recon as they have a need for radiomen and i may even have a better chance of getting in as i would be trained in a smaller field than all the 03s that try out.

but the problem still lies in the fact that i would have to get the job of an 0621.

now not to drag personal things into this but how did you get this job?

im assuming that you signed a contract just for the 06 field, did you pick to be an 0621 or were you picked?

why were you not selected for another position?

what, if you do not mind me asking, was you EL score when you enlisted?


this having to pick a general field thing is the main reason that i am going 03, if i could pick a specific field there are numerous other jobs i would like, but i cannot pick a specific one and do not want to risk landing some other job.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

I have a GT score of 103. I really couldn't tell you what my asvab score was, as it really doesn't matter. Your GT score is what matters.

Recon is something anyone could try out for at any time. About once a year, they put it out there for everyone and open it up. You go for about a week and they run you through the ringer. PFT's, swimming, late nights, early days...you get fucked with every way possible.

Something else to think about is Anglico. They are sorta like recon but in a little different manner. Recon is based on grunt work. They go in first, poke around at the enemy, see what goes on and comes back and then the other fucks go in and destroy ----. Anglico guys go in and destroy ---- but on a small unit scale. They will go in, and then tell everyone else where to go. Dont know how to explain it, they are still somewhat new....but from my experiences, they are the recon guys without the jump wings and scuba bubbles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Nav...iaison_Company

I have no clue what you mean with the UZ contract. Thats something new to me. Everyone has the option to try out for recon.

How did I get the 0621 job? I joined into the 06 field, and got to be a 21. I didn't really choose. I just really didn't care, as long as I got the 06 field. You have the Marine Corps by the balls. You can tell them, and make sure you sign to it, to be a 21 or whatever you want.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

ANGLICO is what i was going into if i took that reserve contract.

they are essential forward artillery observers, but have the ability to direct fire from not only US gunships and aircraft but also coalition forces.

very cool job, yet again i would have to pick the 08 field and would most likely become a 0844, not a 0861.

0844 http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjo2/a/0844.htm
0861 http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjo2/a/0861.htm

again rear echelon ----.

it all comes down to the fact that active duty contracts are just general contracts and the Marine corps then picks a job for the Marine.

so every other field, besides 03, im basically rolling the dice on whether i will be up front or in the rear. and with my scores i am above the 110 that is the highest required score of any enlisted job. such as in the comm field

0651 http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjo2/a/0651.htm
0656 http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjo2/a/0651.htm

these are probally hard jobs to fill, and with my scores i am probally among the few qualified to do them that chose 06xx, so why would the marines put me up front in a job that requires a score 20 points lower?

in the 03 field the worst that could happen is i would be a LAV crewman

0313 http://usmilitary.about.com/od/enlistedjo2/a/0313n.htm

so with that in mind i believe, like you have stipulated, the Marine Corp is not going to let me go up front.


p.s. while everyone is supposed to be allowed to try out for recon (and may get the chance down the line), the UZ contract option expressly garuntees that you are allowed to try out immediately after SOI.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

I mean, ok.

I like what i do, its fun, i stay badass places (besides quatar and iraq)

I would never be able to go into the marines now knowing what i know now and living the lifestyle i live now...

But i guess if i didn't know alot about the marines, or the military in general.. I would be open to things.

Ever thought of going on a i believe AC130 gun ship? Or something like that?

I really enjoy being in the aviation field, i couldn't imagine doing anything else..

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

hatchboy can you give a little background on yourself?

i.e. what you do

and i dont believe that you can enlist for that kind of aviation job, but i may be wrong.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

um, not to sure where your info for Anglico is coming from, or maybe its just what I have worked with...but lots and lots of comm guys go to Anglico units. Who do you think sends all of that info to the birds and the guns? Comm guys. I know of several 0621's and 0612's that go to the Anglico units. Hell, while out in Arizona for the month of October, I talked to Anglico guys over the radio pretty much the entire time.

You wanna see some of the ---- I did for the month of October? BTW, I have been in the wing for the past 3.5 years. The time prior to that, I was ground side, supporting grunts. /
Your gonna be rolling the dice even with being an 03. Your not gonna be fighting the fight 24/7. In fact, out of 4 years, your probably going to be deployed maybe 12 months of that entire time. Weird to think about it like that, huh?


Hatchboy, your thinking about the KC130, which would actually be another option for you. Anything on the wing side would be for you, and yes, you can enlist into any of it just like any job in the Marine Corps.You could be the guy hanging out of the hell hole.

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232...eedbe212_b.jpg

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

No he's not. He's talking about the AC130, which is also a KC130 except the AC is called a gunship and the KC is a cargo plane. Same plane, two functions. How's that 69 asvab score workin out for you? haha.

Re: took my asvabs couple weeks ago
 

yes, there are radio operators in an ANGLICO unit and they play a intergal role.

there is also an 0861, one or two 0331s, a 0847 and sometimes a 0844.

there are currently only 2 active duty ANGLICO battalions, with a total of 8 FCTs.

no active duty ANGLICO battalions have jump status as far as my knowledge goes,

of the 3 reserve ANGLICO units only 2 have jump status and the 5th ANGLICO is never supposed to get jump status.

although all of this info is derived from the internet and may be outdated.


my information is gathered all over the place. wikipedia, about.com, and the individual ANGLICO unit websites, mostly 3rd ANGLICO.


would be a badass job.

Re: big ass marine corp discussion. to be or not to be, infantry.
 

My advice is to get your info from Frank only. He has no interest in a recruiting quota.

Frank, can you type some more? I still like long military stories... :6

Re: big ass marine corp discussion. to be or not to be, infantry.
 

well i dont think the 2 sgts that i hang out with regularly and the Ssgt. that i spent a couple hours talking to on thanksgiving have recruiting quotas either.

and the Lt. Col. who is scheduled to take command of 3rd ANGLICO that i corresponded with through email.

or the retired infantry GSgt. up the street from me.

not to mention my friends that are in the army, but this is a Marine discussion.

i take my information from all over, and dont think for an instant that im not retaining everything he is typing.

but only the ignorant take everything they are told without questioning it.

Re: big ass marine corp discussion. to be or not to be, infantry.
 

whats with all the unexploded ordnance?