Best Aftermarket Intake Manifold B-Series???
 

??? As title says which actually gives the best gains either all motor/turbo? i guess as far as the skunk2 pro series, edlebrock, blox, obx :S and any others i cant think of which gives more gains. please state why u think so ...? its actually for a b16a2

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I dont know anything about the flow. But I run the skunk2 intake mani on my set-up :1

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Skunk2 are based off of B16 castings, they suck on GSR due to B16 runner to GSR runner transitions at the flange. Stupid design. A lot of the eGay stuff uses their raw castings, or clones of them, with the same problems.

AEBS/Pro Products Whirlwind/Typhoon are the best cheap IM out there for mild NA or 350 whp and slightly above boosted. They rock.

The Edelbrock Vickie-X is great for the big power drag cars and faggot dynoqueens.

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so edlebrock in reality gives more gains than say a skunk2?! see for now the car is all motor but it will be boosted shortly. i just want something thats actually gonna do good and not be a waste of money. then again dont want to spend to much. i know the skunk2 u can get on egay all day long for $199 ive never heard of AEBS whirlwind etc....?

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aebs typhoon manifold. The actually perform and I sell them port matched to 70 mm throttle bodies. Want 300 cfm from a manifold ya. Flowbenches dont lie kids



skunk2 design is junk. Has jd has pointed out. A factory gsr manifold ported correctly owns skunk2 stuff. Also the same design is used for all skunk style manifolds



china doesnt have copyrights yooooooooooooo

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http://www.professional-products.com...oductAcura.php

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so you sell the manifold with 70mm throttle body?? how much?? should i need any other mods to run this on a basically stock b16 for now til its boosted? or do i need any fuel mods..?

you got me interested cuz i'm on the hunt for a manifold like right now!!

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i like my HP Racing IM...ive seen it on a few big # cars, but it isnt nearly as common/popular as the Edelbrock

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aebs ftw!!!

reasonably priced too.

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i vouch for AEBS. they go for like 149 shipped all over the place and they work. got one on my GSR.

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Avoid the Edelbrock on a NA build unless you want a 7000+ powerband. Unless you build an 86x95mm monster and then its still peaky.

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what about endyn intake manifolds? I thought they were top notch but pricey.

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I mistrust Larry Widmer. From everything I have seen he is a Talent, but he is shady and lies to make himself look like he is any better than the 1000 other Talents in the Honduh game.

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+1 and only took 10 years to get his supercharger out

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I must suxk at life then. A buddy's B17 made the same peak HP with the AEBS as with a stock P30 intake, but way less torque across the power band. Nothing I tried would make power on that IM.

:-\.

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then they "sold out" instantly.... like all 2 they made? lol


all motor B16A is ------ HOMO... actually worse than that, since NA is just homo as hell on a 1.8 lol...

i have a turbo B16A.... i run a JG/Edelbrock VictorX :6

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You change anything else between tunes?

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The only difference between the AEBS and P30 tune is A/F and maybe some timing changes up top.

We even tried playing with the cam timing with the AEBS to no avail.

The other oddball thing is that peak midrange torque seemed to come with a ridiculously rich 10.5-11:1 A/F ratio. Keep in mind this is an NA engine. It was totally boggling me.
I am pretty sure that the combo of CTR intake cam, B17 Exhaust cam, and the 17's measly 9.7:1 compression have a major role in it as well.

I am personally running a B17 with the earlier ITR cams, and just a 4-2-1 Edelbrock 2 piece header. I guess the combo is better matched because I make a pretty decent amount of power more than him.

Basically he started off with the AEBS. My combo consistently made more power across the entire board, so we decided to try out the P30 intake laying around. Even with the same cam timing as we were using with the AEBS the P30 made more torque across the board.

Any insight JD?

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heres some insight, dont use them on all motor cars :6

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That is kind of my opinion, but...

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So you tried the P30 and AEBS on both of your motors on the same day and the P30 made more torque than the AEBS on each motor?

It sounds like his motor is not very well sorted out, and I would be interested to see how they compare on your motor.

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Yeah, it sounds fucked up. Not a reflection on the IM.

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Lol, not quite there homeslice.

It wasn't the same day for the AEBS vs. P30. I can't remember the exact time line, but I think we dynoed the two intake within a couple of weeks of each other.

The odd thing is that he only has about 60K on his and I have about 125K on mine.

I guess I could try out the AEBS, but I really don't expect much from it.

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Yeah, I haven't figured it out yet. I tell him all the time that it is ------ goofy.

His car doesn't really seem to respond that well to any changes.

Maybe If I get time I will give it a try on my engine.

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SO is $140 the going rate for a AEBS intake manifold for a b16 head?

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Ground kit.

Scrape/clean every pin in every connector and pack the plugs with dielectric.

Might be an idea to cut open the engine harness and see if any of the wiring is rotted out.

BTW, where do you ground the wideband? Is the battery relocated?

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His car has a ground kit.

Holy crap that sounds like a ---- ton of work. It will give him something to do though.

I use an LC-1. The analogue ground is grounded to the sensor ground at the ECU. The system ground is grounded at the main ECU power ground.

I was watching the A/F with the digital data on Logworks during dyno runs.

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150ish. this is the seller i got mine for my GSR about a year and a half ago.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PRO-R...spagenameZWDVW

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dammit the non homo chrome ones are more >:(

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now i know you guys aren't this stupid....but.....you aren't running factory TB'd are you??? I mean if u guys swap in IM that have say for instance 66mm opening and ur running that small 58mm TB.....of course there is going to be no change in power. The intake mani is being restricted.

I'm running a custom intake mani made by a shop i kno with a 65mm bbk tb to match the intake opening......my sohc vtec pulls much better in higher RPM's now and doesn't lag as much down low

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Uh, actually, yes he is running a factory TB.

How is using a bigger TB is going to bring back all of the lost torque with the AEBS.

There is seriously like 10 ft/lbs less in the midrange with the AEBS.

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Think about it....just because the intake mani has bigger runners and plenum doesn't mean ur going to make more power unless you use a port match TB.Yes it can hold more volume but your still using that stock 58mm TB. Your still only getting as much air flow as say a stock IM. And because your not pulling in more volume into the bigger IM you are losing power because now there is less air to fill the intake mani before it travels down the runners causing a sort of "lag" in your power band. Get a TB that match's your IM and you will see gains

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I guess you could be right, but I just don't see needing a larger TB on a car that puts down 140s to the wheels.

IDK I guess it could be worth try.

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it's worth it.......specially if the car is boosted or going to get boosted....larger TB+matching IM=FTW

chris!.....where are you?? tell this nagger whats up! O0

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Lol, unfortunately neither of the B17s are getting boosted.

The dirty A6 that is on its way is a different story.

:y

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your mother

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is a 70mm too big for say a car that will be na for a little while until turbo setup is ready?

i'm most likely gonna buy what chris is offering the aebs im ported to fit the matching 70mm tb he's got for sale. is this overkill on a na motor for now or will it be good for na and ofcourse gain more once turbo'd??

i'm most likely gonna buy it anyways just want some opinions b16a2 motor

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best intake mani i've ever found:

http://riceboypage.com/shameless/big...yc_ram_air.JPG

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My mentor and I have been using 70mm throttle bodies on b16a's since the late 90's when he designed the first billet Honda throttle body


Simple dont believe the HT hype. Volume speaks for itself. Especially with boost.


190 whp stock b16a end bottom end all motor with ctr cams/port work 6 years ago w/ a 70mm throttle body. Nothing has changed. It still works

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damn how much the the IM and TB cost?