96 2.2 SUNFIRE TURBO HELP!!!!!!
 

HEY IM NEW TO THIS SITE I HAVE A 96 2.2L SUNFIRE AND I WANT TO TURBO IT DOES ANYBODY KNOW ANY LINKS OR PLACES THAT HAVE TURBOED A 2.2 FROM THIS MODEL YEAR

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general idea..

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/turbo_projects/airtonics/

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THANKS I SAW THIS ONE I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS ANOTHER

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I WOULD IMAGINE THERE IS BUT SEARCHING WOULD HELP...................(guy from anchor man)I DUNNO WHAT WERE YELLING ABOUT

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its all basically the same, with the parts and ----, you'll just need to get or make (more than lilley) a custom exhaust manifold and chargpiping, and for ems you can go with an apex'i s-afcII, greddy e-manage, e-manage ultimate, or something that mgiht be custom for pontiac's.

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LOUD NOISES!!!!

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thanks a lot if you guys know of anything else just keep me posted thanks again

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in the airtronics build did they build the engine itself at all

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no. the 2.2 ohv is a sorry motor man, i think on 10 lbs it might honeslty dyno 125 whp. i have a 93 sunbird with the 2.2ohv and its pitiful. car wont even spin the tires with a power brake in the sand..........

but at any rate

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Which motor did the factory turbo Sunfires of the late 80's/early 90's use?Can you interchange any parts?

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the sunbirds came with some version of a t2 or small t25. the manifold will fit i believe, good luck finding these parts though.

and even if i found it, id never use it. id just fab my own. the bottom line is, the thought of turboing it has crossed my mind, but honeslty, im not for the fact, even though i have enough parts and old turbos laying around to turbo it for prob 50 doillars, it wouldnt even be fun to drive boosted, and it would only sacrifice the already shitty relability of my daily driven domestic escuse for an automobile

---- gm.

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thats the same basic engine but the 96 is a little different from what I understand or atleast thats what volumeking333 aka ryan tells me he's one of those jbody guys :P

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ivce also owned a 95 2.2ohv cavy. it was equally pathetic.

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i deffinatly know its pathetic but im bored and new to building my own kit so if i ---- up the car i wouldn't even care i would just return it to stock or junk it i think the car stock has like 127horse so with a little turbo it would be fun to ---- with i have a gti but leased it so i need something you know

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go to school, dont do drugs. mkay? :y

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those motors are good for about 200whp on 10lbs of boost, but thats about the max I would run on it ;)

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PSI has nothing to do with. CFM is your friend. ;)

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I was just going off a general consensus on jbody.org :-\

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it could handle 10lbs without building the motor at all you really think so

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yeah it could handle that using a small T3 probably

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is there anyplace that anybody has seen that has done it besides hmt airtronics

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go to jbody.org ;)

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thanks

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the 2.2 is a odd motor my friend has 2 cavys and my girlfriend has a sunfire all have 2.2s in them my friends black cavy is damn quick to be stock out ran a couple of civics,neons,jettas but his blue cavy is slow as ---- but my girl friends car even being a auto drop it in 1 and gun it it'll burn all the way up the road its tipical GM performance lol for every good engine they build they build 100 half asses ones

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yea the 2.2 is deffinatly odd but it pulls alright at one point i had a full out exhaust system with ram air hood and some ignition stuff and it ran pretty clean still slow but clean thats why i was interested in throwing a turbo down in it just for a side project and if i ---- up who cares you know

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ok first thing is first, you'll need to start reading alot. check out JBO (jbody.org) all the info is there.

stock horsepower rating is 115hp at the crank, and 130 lbft of torque at the crank.

most people wouldn't recommend running 10psi on a stock 2.2 just because it probably really can't handle it very well. there is one guy running like 10-11 on a stock 2.2 and ended up with 222whp or something around there. but its not suggested to try yourself.

also being that you have a 96 2.2 means that you have side feed injectors. which pretty much means they can't be upgraded to bigger injectors to run more boost. you'll have to figure out the fuel debate which comes down to like 3 choices.1. custom make Intake manifold with new injector bosses for top feed injectors with a controller (prolly want stand alone) 2. run auxilary injectors (injectors that fire into intake stream when there is boost) also then you'll need a controller. 3. the most unwanted idea is run stock 19lb/hr injectors with an FMU at low boost (around 4-5psi on a smaller turbo) and i doubt anyone including myself suggest that idea (becuase its dangerous and unreliable and hard to tune) you'll probably max the injectors out and cause some real damage so don't even bother thinking of this one

also to older sunbird turbo motors are actually 2.0l turbo's and absolutely nothing will fit your motor, that and i doubt you want any of that crap on there anyways. The turbo is way to small, the manifold doesn't flow worth ---- and the so called "charge piping" is like a foot of rubber i believe. no intercooler or anything worth getting

also on JBO it is a general consensous that the super 60 is one of the most efficient turbo's for this motor, which means it will gain you the most power for the efficiency. i highly suggest one of these also.

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another words a ---- load of work to turbo a sunfire
so if i just kept the stock injectors i would just ---- it all up or just can't run enough boost for it to be worthwhile

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honestly, i wouldn't let the idea cross you mind. the stock injectors are 19lb/hr which would be no where near enough for anything over 4-5psi on a smaller turbo. when you get into a smaller turbo then you get heat soak and can cook your turbo..so its a lose lose situation. if your gonna do it, do it right...4-5psi would give you like 130-150whp if that which wouldn't even be that fun.

i debated whether or not i would tell you that because of the stupidness of the idea, i threw it out there so you know its there but not worth the danger of it

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oh believe me i know its a stupid idea i am full aware but its my first kit im going to make from scratch so its more a learning process before i start to make something worthwhile ill probally try to turbo this learn then get a honda of somes ort or something and really build it
even with intercooler i will kill it with heat?

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i'd be more worried about killing your whole engine due to detonation from running to lean with no fuel. the stock injectors aren't made to handle the extra air

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so in your opinion what would you do besides not doing it at all because the injectors seem to be the biggest problem of all this

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do you have any idea how idiotic that statement is? jesus ------- christ, 3rd gen rx7's and most nissans use side feeds and you can find them in any size. so stop sucking your own dick.

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hey dickhead i told you i was new to all this its my first kit why do you think ive asked so many questions

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so there is no problem then right just upgrade them

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add me i will try and help you as much as posible

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thanks i found some stuff on jbody but the injectors are going to be a major bitch to do

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your sure? im pretty sure most side feed injectors are standard. hell, even subaru sti's or wrxs from 2004 + use ide feeds. dont quote me if they are in sti's or wrx's. lol. yeah man. get some junk side feeds and see iif they mount up. i wont be suprised if they do.

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you think they'll just adapt no problem

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then what use the side injectors and a management system and i should be good or what

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yeah its too bad that those injectors won't fit huh??? don't you think other people have thought of this and tried? or do you just think you are the smartest ------- person in the world....

i was just repeating KNOW information that i know about the 2.2l pushrod motor in the sunfire to help the guy out..