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hitting the track tomorrow and could use some tips for better 60 fts
ill be running 22x8x15 slicks on light rims
92 civic, z6, 16g, obx lsd, traction bars, act heavy duty pressure plate stock street disk, was thinking 6k launch control

i know to pree load and to feather the clutch a little at first
but can any one elaborate on that

this will be my second time at the track 3rd race

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Thats it right there.

If Joe(D16z6-y8) comes in here he will tell you thats the kye to pulling a 1.6 60' with a open diff. :6

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Find some better slicks, those ones you have SUCK!

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x 2

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What is a good sized slick then?

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24.5x8x13

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and why? *grabs notebook and pen*

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Go get some Prothane inserts for your mounts,get some urethane control arm bushings,go for a alignment,do a quick burnout then roll in and use the ebrake to hold the car in place well slowly lifting the clutch pedal till the car squats and wants to move then keep it there until you see the last yellow then step off the clutch and head for victory.First gear will spin just work the pedal a little to keep the car heading forward then grab second and smash it to the floor from then out.

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x2

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and for now ill have to work with what i have

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The smaller sidewall slicks are meant for much milder applications. Basic all motor,small nitrous, 10 psi turbo d that kind of situation. They are meant to be run at much higher psi.

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oh
whats the lowest yi can run these at? 10-13 psi fine?

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start at 14 and bring an air tank. 10 is very low for those again refer to lack of sidewall

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That would be a terrible size slick for his setup. I think m bone might be pointing towards the rim size?

Use logic when sizing slicks, bigger is not better and smaller slicks will still hook! There are dozens of 275+hp SLOW turbo cars on honda-tech and oversize slicks is usually the reason.

http://www.housemanautosport.com/ratio%20calculator.htm

Punch some numbers into this calculator. You'll have to hit google for your gear ratios. You want to cross the line right before your rev limit in 4th (ideally).

You can test what MPH you're capable of with the slicks you have now. it will only increase a little bit (providing you get half-decent runs) with the right size slick but your ET will improve in proportion to your 60fts.

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How much power is your car making ?
How much boost on the anti lag ?
What did the car trap the last time you ran it ?

Like most guys are telling you the 22's are more for an all motor application. The sidewall just wont support low pressure.
BUT, you can probably manage some 1.8's with them.

Answer those questions.

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power - around the 220 mark
not sure about the anti lag maybe 5 ish???
car trapped 105 with the old set up (14b 10-11 psi) (now 16g 13psi)

a buddy is also telling me to run 13s in the back pumped up to 40 psi
i have a set that has been sitting for 2 years and am worried if they can handle the speed
i have 15s with a 205 tire (rims only weigh about 12 lbs) on my car right now

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22's are for allmotor, 24's are for a JRSC, 25's are for a turbo and 26's are for turbo/nitrous. hp and gear ratios dont matter. :y

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24's are for a jrsc ? Pretty funny.

My 300whp was just fine with 23's. 24.5's would be overkill.

Anyway.....

Safe to say the car will trap 107+. My car traps 124 and I run worn out shitty 165/65/13's in the rear. They are just fine @ 45 psi.

The preload is very important. Practice a lot. Try and find the limit of your e-brake and clutch on the line. You want the car pulling/squating/jerking but not moving. When you get it right you'll know. DONT FEATHER THE THROTTE. Its a big waste of time. Leave the line HARD.

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im going to practice a little tonight
due to safety ill be running my rims in the back (looked at old tires and i doubt a :8 would run them )

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You're missing the point and you're missing the sarcasm. Slick size has nothing to do with whp or "all motor" or "turbo".

mph, rev limits, and gear ratios are what you use to tell someone what size slicks they need. Any size slick will yield good 60fts. I've personally hit 1.7's on 20" slicks and a 1.62 on 23's (~400whp).

The only thing whp is good for is if you use it in conjunction with weight to get a rough idea of mph (AKA using a quarter mile calculator).

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Didnt catch the sarcasm. My mistake.

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Can you elaborate more on what you do or what you feel for when you preload your axles? Is it ever a problem missing the timing and not letting the ebrake off fast enough?

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he needs 22x8x13's, 200 whp is about the limit of the 20x8x14's

But then again I don't launch like a -----. Smack the slicks hard at 7500+ rpm with nitrous coming on at WOT, which is about 2 ft out of the hole :)

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dam.....

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I was also NOT using a lightweight flywheel, smack them hard, you have to with a lower powered car.

Just like launching a 283 powered 55 shoebox, wind it up and let it loose!

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drive it like you stole it :6
dont know if ill have vids but ill post how it turns out

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atticus y9ur going to respond to this but nothing else/\

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I stage early, pull the e brake, set anti-lag, slowly release clutch, let car inch forward till im staged deep, then put the clutch in a bit more so it wont pull forward anymore.

By that time the ass is on the floor and the car is jerking pretty violently. Release brake and clutch. Go.

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I'm not a drag racing expert or anything but in my personal experience, I've found out the faster you get the 60' over with, the better your overall time will be. Like really try and drive the car fast and stuff like imagine someone is behind you and wants to shoot you or something. That usually works for me because I have a fear of being shot point blank in the face. If you are afraid of birds, imagine a bunch of them are right behind you.

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Can I imagine my mom is behind me trying to drag me to church?

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well todays the day
did some burn outs last night to break the slick in out of storage (im sure the nabours loved that ;D )
i noticed the clutch felt a little stiffer after wards, is that from the pressure plate warming up?

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I have to lift my car another half inch to fit this 24.5X8X15 of matts ( they are like 1/2" to a full 1" TALLER than the exospeed 24.5X8X15's that are sitting my garage) so that bitch needs some lift. Doing that right now

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OMG thats ground breaking info! :6

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after an embarrassing 14.1 @ 99.6 with a 2.1 60 ft (left the e break engaged for the first 30 feet :1 :1 :1 ) first run
my last 2 runs
1.9 60 13.195 @ 104mph
1.8 60 13.154 @103 mph

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Much better. Keep at it.

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Nice work i could never get much better then low 1.8 high 1.7 on the 22's switching to brand new 24.5's and instant 1.6's.

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did you not run the slicks the first time? what was your times like last time?

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what was the tire pressure?

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11.5 psi tire pressure

last years run on same slicks (dont know tire pressure) was 13.6 @105 mph with a 2.2 60 ft
this set up is tuned by me
the old one was tuned by a shop but from what i know now (looked at old tune) i think they ran too much timing that resulted in spun rod bearings

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nice improvement, i was able to pull a 2.1 60' on bald all seasons at 18 psi with a stock z6 motor and trans in a cx chassis. popped the cluth at the rev limiter no preload or anything fancy. Wheel hopped like a bitch and ran my fastest time ever. Of course I tried to back it up and blew the diff when it grabbed on the next run. hence why i'm interested in this preload business.