Forced Induction Custom FI Setup Questions

Write Up: Boost Controller and External Wastegate top port w/pics

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-02-2007, 05:00 PM
  #12  
3.0 BAR
 
ryan89crx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,976
Default Re: Write Up: Boost Controller and External Wastegate top port w/pics

no spike at all with this setup?

all the mbcs ive used spiked 1-2psi. one of the reasons i went with the Greddy EMBC...
ryan89crx is offline  
Old 01-02-2007, 07:13 PM
  #13  
0.0 BAR
 
0b00st0's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 0
Default Re: Write Up: Boost Controller and External Wastegate top port w/pics

Originally Posted by ryan89crx
no spike at all with this setup?

all the mbcs ive used spiked 1-2psi. one of the reasons i went with the Greddy EMBC...

My turbonetics one doesn't spike at all. Even if I punch it at 6K in 3rd. Instant 10psi, zero spike.



0b00st0 is offline  
Old 01-02-2007, 07:44 PM
  #14  
1.5 BAR
 
G2turbo_terror's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,122
Default Re: Write Up: Boost Controller and External Wastegate top port w/pics

I'm running a turboX inline from my coompressor housing to my deltagate and so far, from summer to now, it holds solid, never any spiking. This is the only boost controller I've ever owned and neither I or anyone else whos used it has ever had any problems. I've also removed the adjuster hex nut and spring to clean the inside, not sure if that has anything to do w/my apparent good luck but I guess if it aint broke don't fix it.
G2turbo_terror is offline  
Old 01-02-2007, 11:56 PM
  #15  
3.0 BAR
 
ryan89crx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,976
Default Re: Write Up: Boost Controller and External Wastegate top port w/pics

Originally Posted by MADMAX

My turbonetics one doesn't spike at all. Even if I punch it at 6K in 3rd. Instant 10psi, zero spike.



set up like the pic above? thats pretty sick
ryan89crx is offline  
Old 01-03-2007, 12:41 AM
  #16  
3.0 BAR
Thread Starter
 
whiterice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,975
Default Re: Write Up: Boost Controller and External Wastegate top port w/pics

Good news: The boost holds straight across with no spikes.
Bad news: Tonight the diaphragm of the mbc lifted under hard vacuum.
I unscrewed the body fairly easily, so that might have been the problem. Good thing is that it closes in this scenario and runs the base spring psi so there is no issue with over boost.

This diaphragm type might need a reference source from the compressor housing and not the intake manifold. Some diagrams for this style show this.
I'll see if it happens again.
whiterice is offline  
Old 01-03-2007, 12:50 AM
  #17  
0.0 BAR
 
0b00st0's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 0
Default Re: Write Up: Boost Controller and External Wastegate top port w/pics

Originally Posted by ryan89crx
set up like the pic above? thats pretty sick
Yes, just like above except I have the source from the turbo. I had the same problem with the Turbonetics one when it was hooked up after the throttle plate. The vacuum would pull the diaphram out like whiterice mentions below, but mine would happen the first time you applied vacuum.

Whiterice's setup worked fine for a couple days before sucking out the diaphram.




Originally Posted by whiterice
Bad news: Tonight the diaphragm of the mbc lifted under hard vacuum.
I unscrewed the body fairly easily, so that might have been the problem. Good thing is that it closes in this scenario and runs the base spring psi so there is no issue with over boost.

This diaphragm type might need a reference source from the compressor housing and not the intake manifold. Some diagrams for this style show this.
I'll see if it happens again.

0b00st0 is offline  
Old 01-03-2007, 03:42 AM
  #18  
3.0 BAR
 
88dx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 5,838
Default Re: Write Up: Boost Controller and External Wastegate top port w/pics

On my car i used a purge solenoid and a cheap ebay MBC. For $10 I had a dual stage boost controller and no boost creep

I think most of the probs people have with boost control is shitty WG/ Manifolds
88dx is offline  
Old 01-03-2007, 09:40 AM
  #19  
3.0 BAR
 
samson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,161
Default Re: Write Up: Boost Controller and External Wastegate top port w/pics

Yea, I thought that creep/spike were just a known issue for internal wastegates? I'm switching to external this summer and I'd hate to have to mess around with more fluttering boost issues hence why I even decided to swap to external. Until now, I've never even heard of external wastegates not delivering desired boost amounts.


JP
samson is offline  
Old 01-03-2007, 10:21 AM
  #20  
3.0 BAR
 
JDMFantasy2K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,654
Default Re: Write Up: Boost Controller and External Wastegate top port w/pics

so would this work on a turbo xs boost controller? I believe it might be a similar type, and i know i was definately getting different boost levels at different temps with the way it was hooked up before.
JDMFantasy2K is offline  


Quick Reply: Write Up: Boost Controller and External Wastegate top port w/pics



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:00 PM.