What Ignition system to use...1.6l vtec on boost.
07-18-2006, 10:07 PM
#32
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Re: What Ignition system to use...1.6l vtec on boost.
Alright, I cant help it.. I usually just sit idlly by but this one is just too much.... Save the fricken money. I drove around with the MSD SCi with blaster coil and MSD wires and yadda yadda yadda.... Two years non boost then one year boosted. Here is what you get when you get MSD ignition items:
Possibly a good deal up front on a used item $100 or less
The requirement of changing your cap, rotor, wires every 30K miles becuase you cant figure out why it misfires at idle.
Buying a new blaster coil every 20K +/- 10K miles because they suck and fail leaving you with a no start situation.
When you do get it running on the bad coil, it shuts off on you while youre driving at 60+mph and when it comes back on it throws a nice flame.
Wires plain suck, they fail faster than the coils in leakage. So after a year or so of driving at my rate 40K miles a year, you have bought the whole system twice if not three times... Just dont bother, MSD has to high of a failure rate and it shows no significant gains.
Possibly a good deal up front on a used item $100 or less
The requirement of changing your cap, rotor, wires every 30K miles becuase you cant figure out why it misfires at idle.
Buying a new blaster coil every 20K +/- 10K miles because they suck and fail leaving you with a no start situation.
When you do get it running on the bad coil, it shuts off on you while youre driving at 60+mph and when it comes back on it throws a nice flame.
Wires plain suck, they fail faster than the coils in leakage. So after a year or so of driving at my rate 40K miles a year, you have bought the whole system twice if not three times... Just dont bother, MSD has to high of a failure rate and it shows no significant gains.
07-18-2006, 10:19 PM
#34
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Re: What Ignition system to use...1.6l vtec on boost.
Originally Posted by ncturbocivic
Alright, I cant help it.. I usually just sit idlly by but this one is just too much.... Save the fricken money. I drove around with the MSD SCi with blaster coil and MSD wires and yadda yadda yadda.... Two years non boost then one year boosted. Here is what you get when you get MSD ignition items:
Possibly a good deal up front on a used item $100 or less
The requirement of changing your cap, rotor, wires every 30K miles becuase you cant figure out why it misfires at idle.
Buying a new blaster coil every 20K +/- 10K miles because they suck and fail leaving you with a no start situation.
When you do get it running on the bad coil, it shuts off on you while youre driving at 60+mph and when it comes back on it throws a nice flame.
Wires plain suck, they fail faster than the coils in leakage. So after a year or so of driving at my rate 40K miles a year, you have bought the whole system twice if not three times... Just dont bother, MSD has to high of a failure rate and it shows no significant gains.
Possibly a good deal up front on a used item $100 or less
The requirement of changing your cap, rotor, wires every 30K miles becuase you cant figure out why it misfires at idle.
Buying a new blaster coil every 20K +/- 10K miles because they suck and fail leaving you with a no start situation.
When you do get it running on the bad coil, it shuts off on you while youre driving at 60+mph and when it comes back on it throws a nice flame.
Wires plain suck, they fail faster than the coils in leakage. So after a year or so of driving at my rate 40K miles a year, you have bought the whole system twice if not three times... Just dont bother, MSD has to high of a failure rate and it shows no significant gains.
07-18-2006, 10:24 PM
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Re: What Ignition system to use...1.6l vtec on boost.
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Owl-boy's called me out a few times... we have an understanding that ---- talking's fun, and neither of us take it personally. With how much you post-----, God-boy, you've run across threads where we've stated as much.
Unless you aren't reading the threads you post your useless bullshit to.
Unless you aren't reading the threads you post your useless bullshit to.
, I remeber asking you questions but not because I thought you were full of ---- only because I was interesed. I dont post much in tech because I really have a hard time explaining to people how to fix ----. I'm more of a hands on guy 
I'll see if I can find you some info on the ford coil on plug, its a msd system up to 2000ish(cant remember exactly) rpms then it goes back to conventional. If you hook up a scope and dont know that you will be in for a diagnostic nightmare :P
07-19-2006, 01:03 AM
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Re: What Ignition system to use...1.6l vtec on boost.
Didn't read all the thread so I could be repeating what someone else said...
All you need is stock ignition, right now I'm running 402whp, on pump gas and full exhaust with a cat, only thing done to the ignition side of things a colder plugs (8's) and msd wires. No msd needed. Also one of my friends from JD Racing is running over 600whp, on a stock ignition also. If you really think you need an ignition upgrade you would be better off to go with individual coils, but unless you plan on going with HUGE power you won't ever need those either.... Stock ignition FTW!!
All you need is stock ignition, right now I'm running 402whp, on pump gas and full exhaust with a cat, only thing done to the ignition side of things a colder plugs (8's) and msd wires. No msd needed. Also one of my friends from JD Racing is running over 600whp, on a stock ignition also. If you really think you need an ignition upgrade you would be better off to go with individual coils, but unless you plan on going with HUGE power you won't ever need those either.... Stock ignition FTW!!
07-19-2006, 01:32 AM
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Re: What Ignition system to use...1.6l vtec on boost.
Lets make it very simple. If you fill a room with gasoline fumes and the AFR is stoich, and you light a match, do you really think you are going to need to light the match again? Seriously, the only time you need a second ignition event if the first one failed.
The only MSD product I've heard anything decent about is that new one. http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1585765
The only MSD product I've heard anything decent about is that new one. http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1585765
07-19-2006, 01:48 AM
#38
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Re: What Ignition system to use...1.6l vtec on boost.
There are no better plug wires than OEM, fact.
Where's the fun in taking you as rational + communicative? ---- yo couch, *****!
Originally Posted by highroller54
acually I dont remember ever calling you out
07-23-2006, 06:46 PM
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Re: What Ignition system to use...1.6l vtec on boost.
jeff used a MSD BTM on his t25 crx.
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/turbo_projects/t25-2/
id say its your car, do whatever you want. i already plan to be running and MSD Digital SCI and a Blaster HVC 2 coil on top of crome with turbo civic. do what you want
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/turbo_projects/t25-2/
id say its your car, do whatever you want. i already plan to be running and MSD Digital SCI and a Blaster HVC 2 coil on top of crome with turbo civic. do what you want
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